Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Releasing tiers early could be done. Not all at once, but say, up to two days in advance?

Also, bear in mind that you don't have to submit just the lists for the day. Several people could get away with not showing up for a while because we've got several upcoming lists for them--the FIRST site has the teams.

General consensus is that 1) we don't want to get behind schedule and draft during build, 2) 3 drafts a day might be a bit much during the week, 3) there are several people willing to help out.

So, here's a revised solution:

• This weekend, go with 3 per day. I run 2 at different times, Ed runs 1.
• One of Monday's drafts is early (or a "trial run" for a new draft runner).
• This week, two a day, but maybe a third one every now and again to stay up/make sure we don't lose time.
• Find another person to run drafts while doing the above. Said draft leader would start sometime this week/weekend, and do more after the 19th.

The reason for the last one is simple: as FIRST adds more events, FF has to add them too. As more events are added to our schedule, having more people that can run a draft reliably becomes important--it's possible that in the near future, we have to do two per day, every day, to keep up, and nobody can keep that up.

What do you guys think?

I think a reasonable deadline for a solution is the end of tonight's draft; if you guys like the solution, Silicon Valley would be added to tomorrow's schedule and Sunday would have Wisconsin, Israel, and Arizona. After that, the entire schedule slides up a day with the exception of Palmetto or Seattle.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

I am having a hard time keeping up with drafts as is, I would be happy to volunteer my efforts while I'm in Oklahoma and have nothing to do. I would just need draft lists sent to me.

FTC 1902 has a competition tomorrow, and I will not be near a computer with internet


I leave for Oklahoma next Thursday, and will be there until the day after kickoff. I will be able to use my parents' computer

Re: Proposed schedule changes
 

give us the lists several days in advance and OK, otherwise I would say no.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

no way I can do three on Saturday with less than one days notice.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

How about Sunday?

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

yes, if you get me the lists in the morning. I could also prep for three on Monday.


edit: if given the list on Sunday.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Slight revision:

• Saturday, normal. Release tiers/events for Sunday.
• Sunday, three drafts. Release tiers for Monday.
• Monday, 2-3 drafts. Depends on response. One will probably be early, regardless.
• Rest of week, 2 drafts/day. At some point, one or two or more volunteers run one or more drafts.
• As scheduled, with any later revisions. New drafters help greatly here.

If you're interested in running drafts, say something either here or via PM. I should note that it takes me about an hour to set up for a draft, and I usually have the randomized list ready before I start. (I have three right now, ready to go.) Then, of course, there's the time in the draft and the post-draft cleanup. Figure about 2-3 hours total, plus any randomizing time.

Right now, the question is, How many drafts on Monday? Current consensus is 2, and any more depends on when the tiers are released. If there is strong disagreement on this, speak up!

One note to all participants: There is no rule saying that you can't send in all your lists at once (some people already have, in fact). So if you want to deluge us with lists, go ahead.:] You don't have to wait for tiers to be announced.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

M, W, F, S, S, are almost impossable for me to do, because I am working on those days usually

the best bet would be something along the lines of 3 drafts during the weekend and 2 drafts per night, one starting at 7PM EST and another starting at 7PM PST I think taht would be the best way to make it work, for the weekends, maybe 1, 4, and 7 PM EST would be great

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Work is one reason this discussion started--I only know that I'll probably (99% chance) be working after next week, and the way work is scheduled, who knows when I'll be available. (That, and having the week after Christmas be my jury duty week, when my schedule could go south at any time...)

I'll think about those times. What will probably happen is that two drafts are at the normal time (7 PM EST) and one is either earlier (say, 4:30 - 5PM EST) or later (say, 9 PM EST).

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

I am fine to run drafts on the days I mentioned, I am not sure about keeping up switches after the initial drafting. I think two drafts a day monday-friday, three on saturday and sunday. I do suggest that when you have a schedule to release it.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

i am fine with running drafts any day, but please consider the time differences.

i can do them at say, 10 pm Israel, and that is 3 pm for you guys...
is that ok, if yes, i'd be happy to help, plus i did one or two drafts last year so i think i remember how it goes...

Pittsburgh random list & other things
 

The weekend schedule:
Dec 13Peachtree Regional , Pittsburgh Regional (both at 7:00 PM EST)
Dec 14Silicon Valley Regional , Wisconsin Regional, Israel Regional (Time TBD--will depend on who does them and when they're open.)



I'll have to review the rest of the schedule and talk it over with Ed and anyone else running drafts. Someone should post it sometime before Sunday night's draft(s).


Pittsburgh random list

2172
128
1249
337
1367
1629
2279
2399
2051
869
306
2010
48
440
291
2544
63
222
3062
2656
2407
2835
2901
2534
2644
3108
2641
1708
2428
2618
2252
1743
117
302
1990
1218
2614

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

2967
2420
2655
1414
590
2038
2362
1788
832
34
1439
1877
2119
900
57
3091
2007
1683
2958
1533
2918
2974
1648
1002
281
1102
1746
1127
342
1261
343
2983
1758
1319
442
1795
2415
1304
2393
1311
1771
547
1415
1999
1848
2887
587
1398

Revised schedule
 

SDec 13Peachtree Regional , Pittsburgh Regional
SDec 14Silicon Valley Regional , Wisconsin Regional , Israel Regional
MDec 15Arizona Regional , Cass Tech District Competition
TDec 16Bayou Regional , Boilermaker Regional
WDec 17Chesapeake Regional , Lansing FIRST Robotics District Competition
TDec 18NASA VCU Regional , Detroit FIRST Robotics District Competition
FDec 19Philadelphia Regional, St. Louis Rgional
SDec 20 Waterloo Regional
SDec 21 Colorado Regional
MDec 22 Connecticut Regional
TDec 23 Greater Toronto Regional
WDec 24 Hawaii Regional
FDec 26Las Vegas Regional , West Michigan FIRST Robotics District Competition
SDec 27Lone Star Regional ,Troy FIRST Robotics District Competition
SDec 28Microsoft Seattle Regional , Palmetto Regional
MDec 29Sacramento Regional
TDec 30SBPLI Long Island Regional
WDec 31Minnesota 10000 Lakes Regional
FJan 2Minnesota North Star Regional


All drafts will take place at 7:00 PM unless stated otherwise in their threads. It's looking like two events will be early in the next two days, but I don't know which two.

Silicon Valley random list
 

2643 971
840
2141
253
581
604
1834
1967
668
2813
115
256
987
8
359
1280
1700
841
846
2489
192
670
3045
1351
766
2035
2473
254
1868
114
1560
692
100
3022
2135
1458
2144
2367
649
1641
852
2628
1516