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Alex Cormier 30-11-2008 19:39
Re: FYI
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 774185)
Here is the schedule for the 2009 Season Long FF Drafts.
Dec 1BAE Granite State Regional
Dec 2Buckeye Regional , Traverse City FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 3Greater Kansas City Regional
Dec 4Midwest Regional
Dec 5New Jersey Regional
Dec 6Washington DC Regional
Dec 7Boston Regional
Dec 8Finger Lakes Regional , Oregon Regional
Dec 9San Diego Regional , Kettering University FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 10New York City Regional
Dec 11Dallas Regional , Florida Regional
Dec 12Los Angeles Regional
Dec 13Peachtree Regional , Pittsburgh Regional
Dec 14Silicon Valley Regional , Wisconsin Regional
Dec 15Israel Regional , Arizona Regional
Dec 16Bayou Regional , Cass Tech FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 17Boilermaker Regional
Dec 18Chesapeake Regional , Lansing FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 19NASA VCU Regional , Detroit FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 20Philadelphia Regional
Dec 21St. Louis Regional
Dec 22Waterloo Regional
Dec 23Colorado Regional , Connecticut Regional
Dec 24Greater Toronto Regional, Hawaii Regional
Dec 26Las Vegas Regional , West Michigan FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 27Lone Star Regional ,Troy FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 28Microsoft Seattle Regional , Palmetto Regional
Dec 29Sacramento Regional
Dec 30SBPLI Long Island Regional
Dec 31Minnesota 10000 Lakes Regional
Jan 2Minnesota North Star Regional


Michigan FIRST Robotics Competition State Championship draft will occur the weekend before the event.
Ed,
I don't get starting the drafting so early. The main thing that made Fantasy FIRST so much fun is the point of finding out as much as possible about each team and gather information on who has the best idea out there and such. With that in mind, how are we supposed to know team 0001 will be better then team 3333? Drafting this early is all based on previous years performances and such? I think it will be a lot better to have it done at least two weeks into the season, not so early.

Koko Ed 30-11-2008 19:57
Re: FYI
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Cormier (Post 778206)
Ed,
I don't get starting the drafting so early. The main thing that made Fantasy FIRST so much fun is the point of finding out as much as possible about each team and gather information on who has the best idea out there and such. With that in mind, how are we supposed to know team 0001 will be better then team 3333? Drafting this early is all based on previous years performances and such? I think it will be a lot better to have it done at least two weeks into the season, not so early.
Because there is no time to do all this during build season.
People tend to have something better to do then.

Koko Ed 30-11-2008 19:58
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
]1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. SamSofa330
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. rtfgnow
22.
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton
25. Barry Bonzack
26. Laaba 80
27. firstbots195
28. Tetraman
29. Indysam
30. Tim Delles
31. Arefin Bari
32. 0705920
33. Wannabe
34. qwertyuiop[]\
35. Kristian Calhoun
36. Vikesrock
37. 340x4xLife
38. TeAm270RoCkS
39. lukevanoort
40. Oris
41. jimbot
42. Greg Peshek
43. Nawaid Ladak

EricH 30-11-2008 23:35
Re: FYI
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Cormier (Post 778206)
Ed,
I don't get starting the drafting so early. The main thing that made Fantasy FIRST so much fun is the point of finding out as much as possible about each team and gather information on who has the best idea out there and such. With that in mind, how are we supposed to know team 0001 will be better then team 3333? Drafting this early is all based on previous years performances and such? I think it will be a lot better to have it done at least two weeks into the season, not so early.
If you didn't notice, it was this early last year...


...for the reason that Ed gave already.

Bear in mind that the lists are only locked when the events that week start. You can change at any time before then.

Koko Ed 01-12-2008 06:32
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Registration for the 2009 Season Long Fantasy FIRST League is now officially closed!
Good luck to the participants!

Alex Cormier 01-12-2008 06:36
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
what time is the draft and who is number 22?

Koko Ed 01-12-2008 09:06
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Cormier (Post 778308)
what time is the draft and who is number 22?
7pm and it doesn't really matter but Steve most likely.

Nawaid Ladak 01-12-2008 09:08
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
just a heads up Koko. i won't be home til 7:15, but i'll try to keep up with my phone

(wish chiefdelphi had a mobile forum site like m.chiefdelphi.com or something)

Koko Ed 01-12-2008 11:57
BAE Randomized Rankings
 
RANDOMIZER! RANDOMIZER! OY! OY! OY!
1. 1058
2. 571
3. 1761
4. 1277
5. 2067
6. 133
7. 885
8. 2621
9. 562
10. 1276
11.1995
12.1512
13.1831
14.2370
15.20
16.151
17.2342
18. 40
19.1922
20.1247
21.509
22.501
23.138
24.1824
25.134
26. 1729
27. 1519
28. 1517
29.1307
30. 131
31.319
32.1289
33.1138
34.1073
35.811
36.663
37. 241
38. 238
39. 175
40. 172
41. 121
42. 58
43.166
44.1277

Clinton Bolinger 01-12-2008 12:03
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
If we submit our picks via PM, is there a format that you would like use to follow?

Code:
1: [Team Number]
2: [Team Number]
3: [Etc..]
-Oris-

Stephi Rae 01-12-2008 12:48
Re: BAE Randomized Rankings
 
You have team 1277 listed as number 4 and again as number 44. Typo?

EricH 01-12-2008 12:58
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oris (Post 778337)
If we submit our picks via PM, is there a format that you would like use to follow?

Code:
1: [Team Number]
2: [Team Number]
3: [Etc..]
-Oris-
Just as long as the teams are in order and somehow separated, you should be good. If you submit for multiple regionals at once, indicate which one is which.

Nawaid, send in a pick list and we'll make sure you get the teams you want if possible.

Oh, yeah-- It's a good idea to hit both Ed and myself with the lists. Right now, I only know of two lists for BAE-- and I'm one of them. (Guess who the other is? Yep, it's Barry.)

Barry Bonzack 01-12-2008 17:40
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 778346)
Just as long as the teams are in order and somehow separated, you should be good. If you submit for multiple regionals at once, indicate which one is which.

Nawaid, send in a pick list and we'll make sure you get the teams you want if possible.

Oh, yeah-- It's a good idea to hit both Ed and myself with the lists. Right now, I only know of two lists for BAE-- and I'm one of them. (Guess who the other is? Yep, it's Barry.)
Man, I am all for pushing all of the drafts back a week to let everyone catch up. I'm taking the GMAT on wednesday and finals all next week. Week after I have company. I try to dedicate an hour of scouting to each regional, and that's not looking quite possible at the moment. I'm sure as heck not letting the randomizer pick for me, though

JesseK 02-12-2008 11:48
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry Bonzack (Post 778402)
Man, I am all for pushing all of the drafts back a week to let everyone catch up. I'm taking the GMAT on wednesday and finals all next week. Week after I have company. I try to dedicate an hour of scouting to each regional, and that's not looking quite possible at the moment. I'm sure as heck not letting the randomizer pick for me, though
I took 2 hours to set up a massive spreadsheet that ranks teams based on last year's performance of the robot and the awards. Plus I added in an additional weight factor (top secret atm ;)). Now it takes me 2 minutes to copy in the teams of a particular regional and rank them accordingly. If I know a team just had an off year last year, or I know insider information about a team, then I'll mess with the order as appropriate.

If you get some spare time, it may be of value to try this.

Koko Ed 02-12-2008 14:47
Buckeye Randomized ranking
 
1.1626
2.677
3.1386
4.1001
5.174
6.3010
7.1317
8.2665
9.306
10.2252
11.2399
12.1747
13.1646
14.1502
15.461
16.451
17. 2917
18.1274
19.276
20.1766
21.695
22.1250
23.1038
24.379
25.829
26.1075
27.120
28.279
29.2835
30.291
31.1248
32.1990
33.872
34.1308
35.963
36. 48
37. 1270
38. 2166
39. 868
40. 1787
41. 2197
42. 1018
43. 1643
44. 888
45.
46. 2941
47. 63
48.1008
49. 2172
50. 2632
51. 108
52. 292
53. 2387
54. 2603
55. 1590
56. 2031
57. 2051
58. 1319
59. 2901
60.2010
61. 964

EricH 02-12-2008 14:49
Traverse City random list
 
2188
247
835
2834
2604
2153
2959
440
1322
314
2245
1918
2405
904
216
288
2771
123
141
2054
857
2246
1254
2619
2645
1506
1216
1674
47
201
703
49
1596
94
1896
1711
2612
1783
858
85

ATannahill 02-12-2008 19:00
Re: Buckeye Randomized ranking
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 778699)
1.1626
2.677
3.1386
4.1001
5.174
6.3010
7.1317
8.2665
9.306
10.2252
11.2399
12.1747
13.1646
14.1502
15.461
16.451
17. 2917
18.1274
19.276
20.1766
21.695
22.1250
23.1038
24.379
25.829
26.1075
27.120
28.279
29.2835
30.291
31.1248
32.1990
33.872
34.1308
35.963
36. 48
37. 1270
38. 2166
39. 868
40. 1787
41. 2197
42. 1018
43. 1643
44. 888
45.
46. 2941
47. 63
48.1008
49. 2172
50. 2632
51. 108
52. 292
53. 2387
54. 2603
55. 1590
56. 2031
57. 2051
58. 1319
59. 2901
60.2010
61. 964
What is #45?

qwertyuiop[]\ 02-12-2008 19:10
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
i have to pull out
sorry

Vikesrock 03-12-2008 12:58
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Any chance of getting 2008's thread unstuck and this one stuck (stickied?)

EricH 03-12-2008 13:04
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 779023)
Any chance of getting 2008's thread unstuck and this one stuck (stickied?)
Might be a good idea.

Also, a PSA:
When you submit your lists, both Ed and I need to get a copy. The reason is that it's kind of hard to send 20+ lists back and forth to make sure that both of us have your list. It's a lot easier to indicate a second recipient, and then we both get the same list. Thank you.

Dan Richardson 03-12-2008 15:57
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Too late to throw my hat in the ring? I did not read all 116 posts so didn't see if I can.


1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. SamSofa330
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. rtfgnow
22.
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton
25. Barry Bonzack
26. Laaba 80
27. firstbots195
28. Tetraman
29. Indysam
30. Tim Delles
31. Arefin Bari
32. 0705920
33. Wannabe
34. qwertyuiop[]\
35. Kristian Calhoun
36. Vikesrock
37. 340x4xLife
38. TeAm270RoCkS
39. lukevanoort
40. Oris
41. jimbot
42. Greg Peshek
43. Nawaid Ladak
44. Studmandan

Koko Ed 03-12-2008 16:31
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:


1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. SamSofa330
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. rtfgnow
22.
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton
25. Barry Bonzack
26. Laaba 80
27. firstbots195
28. Tetraman
29. Indysam
30. Tim Delles
31. Arefin Bari
32. 0705920
33. Wannabe
34. qwertyuiop[]\
35. Kristian Calhoun
36. Vikesrock
37. 340x4xLife
38. TeAm270RoCkS
39. lukevanoort
40. Oris
41. jimbot
42. Greg Peshek
43. Nawaid Ladak
44. Studmandan
Dan, we started drafting two days ago.

ATannahill 03-12-2008 16:36
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
I am willing to let him in, so what if he gets three randomized teams or even no points for the three events. A good competitor would be able to make up for it.

EricH 03-12-2008 16:56
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 778188)
Last day to sign up for the league.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 778307)
Registration for the 2009 Season Long Fantasy FIRST League is now officially closed!
Good luck to the participants!
These two messages were posted Sunday and Monday.

I'm also going to say no. Last year, someone managed to get in on someone else's picks halfway through. That made a big messup in the scoring. I'm not going through that again!

EricH 03-12-2008 19:31
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Your attention please: Due to unforeseen circumstances, tonight's draft (Kansas City) will be starting at some point between 8:00 and 8:30 EST. The sooner the lists are in (and the more of them there are), the better. Good luck to all participants!

EricH 03-12-2008 20:35
Kansas City random list
 
S'pose I should stick this up...

525
1208
1800
1802
1994
1769
1847
935
1710
1777
937
1984
2410
1108
1448
2335
1997
1982
1810
2334
2177
1996
1785
1825
1737
1985
2874
2560
2201
2164
1981
2366
2799
1939
2008
1805
1775
2001
2353
2346
2894
1776
1763
1827
2345
2457
1986
1730
1764
2357
1782
1992
931
1098
537

Dan Richardson 03-12-2008 23:51
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 779071)
Dan, we started drafting two days ago.
lol whoops all good.

Koko Ed 04-12-2008 03:23
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stud Man Dan (Post 779228)
lol whoops all good.
Sorry Dan.
Maybe next year.

Koko Ed 04-12-2008 13:31
Midwest Rankings
 
81
2171
2022
1755
3050
71
3061
1850
1781
1732
1770
2739
2338
1625
16
3030
1114
648
1675
101
111
1739
1024
1000
2490
2151
2136
1741
3067
2039
1525

1652
2939
2940
2115
2741
2725
2803
2433
2831
2112
2462
2769
2364
2041
2533
2432
2358 2709
2781
2381

Koko Ed 05-12-2008 14:37
New Jersey Rankings
 
1923
2590
1006
136
75
486
613
11
869
41
102
223
2495
422
219
484
224
293
296
303
896
423
1403
103
612
752
708
714
1089
1366
834
1391
1228
1689
1048
816
1218
1616
1617
1656
1367
1807
1563
2180
2487
1811
1672
2344
2363
1881
2600
2458
2753
1980
2016
2191
1676
25

EricH 05-12-2008 15:34
Oklahoma City Random List
 
2986
2330
31
1209
2372
2333
2424
2829
2395
2343
1561
2723
1742
2382
1750
2398
2165
2461
425
2341
1429
2571
2354
2469
2388
2376
2369
2435
2389
2793
2391
2468
2759
2373
2765
2777
2779
2821
2773
2436
2359
2332
476
2842
1666
2763
2745
932
2004
2795
1863
2396

ATannahill 05-12-2008 16:40
Re: Oklahoma City Random List
 
Can someone post the scores for each of the awards or are they not decided yet?

EricH 05-12-2008 16:57
Re: Oklahoma City Random List
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 779870)
Can someone post the scores for each of the awards or are they not decided yet?
I would assume that the ones used last year are still the ones to be used.

ATannahill 05-12-2008 17:43
Re: Oklahoma City Random List
 
I hate to be a burden but when I searched I could not find them, can you post them here or link me to a post containing them?

JesseK 05-12-2008 18:44
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
They're buried in the 2008 season long FF thread. You have to open the excel file and click on one of the 'total points' cells, but it's there.

Vikesrock 05-12-2008 18:52
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
this is what I found in that thread.

20....1st seed
12....2nd and 3rd seed
6......4th through 8th
3......9th through 12th
2......12th through 16th

4......Quarter finalists
10.....Semifinalists
20.....Finalists
30.....Winners

42.....Chairmans
36.....Engineering Inspiration Award

15.....robot based award
20.....Rookie All-Star
10.....Rooke Inspiration
8......Woodie Flowers
5.....Regional Highest score
5.......Highest score / Highest Rookie Seed

2......Win(s)
-2.....Loss(es)
1......Tie(s)

5....... Judges Award
2.......for every non-placement award, except previously mentioned

Barry Bonzack 05-12-2008 23:30
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 757783)
if you miss five drafts in a row (that means if you don't make one pick or have sent me a list) you will receive a PM from me. If I don't receive a timely response (24 hours) you are booted from the league!
I am curious if this is being enforced?

EricH 05-12-2008 23:34
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry Bonzack (Post 780060)
I am curious if this is being enforced?
It is. There are about a dozen individuals who should be getting PMs shortly. I know who they are. Ed knows who they are.

We're being a little on the gracious side; I personally don't think it's quite fair to penalize someone for missing two drafts when they're on the same day.

By Sunday, I predict that there will be some currently-picked teams up for grabs in all the tiers. Either that, or there will be some very scared participants!

Koko Ed 06-12-2008 06:34
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry Bonzack (Post 780060)
I am curious if this is being enforced?
PM's have been sent out to all violators except lukevanoort who's PM box is full and cannot accept any more messages (if I cannot get him a message then that's not my problem). If I don't hear from them by the end of the DC draft tonight they will be gone.We could be losing up to a dozen players.
If they are booted their picks go back into the pool.

Tottanka 06-12-2008 07:24
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 780109)
PM's have been sent out to all violators except lukevanoort who's PM box is full and cannot accept any more messages (if I cannot get him a message then that's not my problem). If I don't hear from them by the end of the DC draft tonight they will be gone.We could be losing up to a dozen players.
If they are booted their picks go back into the pool.
Do you have a time when they should be booted? So we can now and hurry make some new picks for the drafts that have already passed?

Koko Ed 06-12-2008 08:06
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tottanka (Post 780113)
Do you have a time when they should be booted? So we can now and hurry make some new picks for the drafts that have already passed?
Soon as the draft ends the decisions will be passed down and their teams will be up for grabs.

Koko Ed 06-12-2008 14:45
2009 DC Radomized Rankings
 
45
339
538
620
365
7
1629
53
2900
2964
116
836
181
2962
272
614
346
357
597
234
449
1279
587
401
2914
611
1731
615
2421
1719
709
768
1418
1123
1900
1370
1849
1872
1699
1712
2819
1727
176
1793
2963
3047
1885
3046
1915
2121
2912
2911
2402
2729
2199
2913
2377
2961

Koko Ed 06-12-2008 21:12
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
The following members have been booted from the league for chronic absenteeism.

Ken Patton
xzvrw2
Laaba 80
Tetraman
Tim Delles
Wannabe
lukevanoort
jimbot
TeAm270RoCkS

All you had to do was PM me back.
Maybe next year.
Whatever teams that were selected for them in previous drafts are up for grabs on a first come first served basis. Post your choices in those threads.

EricH 06-12-2008 21:17
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 780333)
The following members have been booted from the league for chronic absenteeism.

Ken Patton
xzvrw2
Laaba 80
Tetraman
Tim Delles
Wannabe
lukevanoort
jimbot
TeAm270RoCkS

All you had to do was PM me back.
Maybe next year.
Whatever teams that were selected for them in previous drafts are up for grabs on a first come first served basis. Post your choices in those threads.
Also, firstbots195 has dropped out voluntarily.

Available team lists will be updated shortly in the threads.

EricH 06-12-2008 22:28
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Booting completed. I didn't expect so many people to dive for the loose teams so fast...

Also, there has been a slight schedule change. Finger Lakes will be drafting tomorrow, December 7, instead of Monday.

Vikesrock 06-12-2008 22:32
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 780414)
Booting completed. I didn't expect so many people to dive for the loose teams so fast...

Also, there has been a slight schedule change. Finger Lakes will be drafting tomorrow, December 7, instead of Monday.
Ok, so Boston and FLR tomorrow and Oregon by itself on Monday? Just wanna make sure I have things right so I get my lists in on time. Ideally I would just get ahead, but we all know how that real life thing can get in the way.....

EricH 06-12-2008 22:38
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 780416)
Ok, so Boston and FLR tomorrow and Oregon by itself on Monday? Just wanna make sure I have things right so I get my lists in on time. Ideally I would just get ahead, but we all know how that real life thing can get in the way.....
Yep. That's how it'll work.

JesseK 06-12-2008 22:56
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Well that was...less than fair... I just got back from an FTC competition and didn't have a chance to even know teams would be up for grabs. Maybe a bit more notice next time?

EricH 06-12-2008 22:58
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JesseK (Post 780426)
Well that was...less than fair... I just got back from an FTC competition and didn't have a chance to even know teams would be up for grabs. Maybe a bit more notice next time?
Possibly. I might say how many people are close, but not who.

Michelle Celio 07-12-2008 07:31
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
If it is possible, could you guys post the pick times the day before? So this way, people, or just me, can figure out if they're going to be around for the draft?

Koko Ed 07-12-2008 08:39
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michelle Celio (Post 780504)
If it is possible, could you guys post the pick times the day before? So this way, people, or just me, can figure out if they're going to be around for the draft?
The drafts mostly will take place at 7pm. If we change that we'll announce it (I'm too lazy to change the times on the drafts so I just copy/paste and jumble around the order of players with the randomize.

IndySam 07-12-2008 11:03
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JesseK (Post 780426)
Well that was...less than fair... I just got back from an FTC competition and didn't have a chance to even know teams would be up for grabs. Maybe a bit more notice next time?
Seconded.

Koko Ed 07-12-2008 11:13
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by IndySam (Post 780533)
Seconded.
OK guys. We can do that.
After tonight if he doesn't participate in the draft Elgin Clock will be getting a warning PM and if we don't get a response he will be out by Monday.

Koko Ed 07-12-2008 11:58
2009 FLR Randomized Rankings
 
316
2053
145
1507
2791
1511
1241
188
578
3057
610
250
772
771
424
2340
340
2228
378
1930
1559
191
211
174
1713
2624
2999
73
3015
3003
1591
173
3044
87
1450
1585
1503
809
1126
229
1246
1405
1728
1765
1518
522
1547
1551
639
2609

EricH 07-12-2008 12:23
Boston random list
 
2079
155
2423
2888
97
2386
2871
246
1768
701
2103
88
1965
61
157
1779
839
1099
2124
2262
529
1027
213
2876
1916
2084
549
348
1474
2349
2713
125
126
69
2593
2447
2877
1350
1100
2127
2009
1973
2043
178
177
230
1153
1757
2104
1735
190

Elgin Clock 07-12-2008 17:05
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 780536)
OK guys. We can do that.
After tonight if he doesn't participate in the draft Elgin Clock will be getting a warning PM and if we don't get a response he will be out by Monday.
Say wha?!?! lol I picked Friday night. How many night do I have to miss to be booted? :eek:

Koko Ed 07-12-2008 17:25
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elgin Clock (Post 780631)
Say wha?!?! lol I picked Friday night. How many night do I have to miss to be booted? :eek:
oops! I forgot!
Well, now your fine.

EricH 07-12-2008 18:18
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elgin Clock (Post 780631)
Say wha?!?! lol I picked Friday night. How many night do I have to miss to be booted? :eek:
It does help if you hit both me and Ed with any pick lists. Partly because you don't know who's going to be doing a given draft...

Koko Ed 08-12-2008 17:48
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
2951
948
2915
1432
847
2898
2439
1510
359
2542
1823
3024
2990
2522
2517
1571
2550
2557
2850
360
2130
1566
2002
1569
1130
2374
2411
192
2811
1891
488
1318
1595
1778
2412
1294
568
1346
2471
2594
753
1983
2521
2733
2971
2192
1540
2122
2046
1425
2147
2635
955
956
2249
957
997
1544

Koko Ed 08-12-2008 21:09
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Fair warning to the masses:
The following players are in danger of getting expelled(as in they will be getting a PM) if they don't partiicpate tomorrow night!

0705920
340x4xLife
acdcfan259 (waving hi and goodbye won't do it this time! Submit a list or make a pick or you get booted)
Arefin Bari

We have three two time offenders. I think I need to make a rule that if you are a repeat offender you get booted whether you respond or not as well.

Arefin Bari 08-12-2008 22:43
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Hey Koko,

Usually I am online later at night and I check CD for new FF threads. Whenever I see a new schedule for a regional, I send you and Eric my pick list. It would be great if schedule for the next day picks can be provided the night before (for example, suppose FLR picks were tomorrow and you would post the schedule tonight). I apologize for the inconvenience.

Joe G. 08-12-2008 23:13
Re: FYI
 
Quote:
Hey Koko,

Usually I am online later at night and I check CD for new FF threads. Whenever I see a new schedule for a regional, I send you and Eric my pick list. It would be great if schedule for the next day picks can be provided the night before (for example, suppose FLR picks were tomorrow and you would post the schedule tonight). I apologize for the inconvenience.
I believe that this schedule is still in use.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 774185)
Here is the schedule for the 2009 Season Long FF Drafts.
Dec 1BAE Granite State Regional
Dec 2Buckeye Regional , Traverse City FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 3Greater Kansas City Regional
Dec 4Midwest Regional
Dec 5New Jersey Regional
Dec 6Washington DC Regional
Dec 7Boston Regional
Dec 8Finger Lakes Regional , Oregon Regional
Dec 9San Diego Regional , Kettering University FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 10New York City Regional
Dec 11Dallas Regional , Florida Regional
Dec 12Los Angeles Regional
Dec 13Peachtree Regional , Pittsburgh Regional
Dec 14Silicon Valley Regional , Wisconsin Regional
Dec 15Israel Regional , Arizona Regional
Dec 16Bayou Regional , Cass Tech FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 17Boilermaker Regional
Dec 18Chesapeake Regional , Lansing FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 19NASA VCU Regional , Detroit FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 20Philadelphia Regional
Dec 21St. Louis Regional
Dec 22Waterloo Regional
Dec 23Colorado Regional , Connecticut Regional
Dec 24Greater Toronto Regional, Hawaii Regional
Dec 26Las Vegas Regional , West Michigan FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 27Lone Star Regional ,Troy FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 28Microsoft Seattle Regional , Palmetto Regional
Dec 29Sacramento Regional
Dec 30SBPLI Long Island Regional
Dec 31Minnesota 10000 Lakes Regional
Jan 2Minnesota North Star Regional


Michigan FIRST Robotics Competition State Championship draft will occur the weekend before the event.

EricH 08-12-2008 23:20
Re: FYI
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rocketperson44 (Post 781327)
I believe that this schedule is still in use.
You are correct. San Diego and Kettering are still tomorrow night. We'll try to get any changes out as soon as we know about them.

BTW, please, please, please send your lists to both Ed and myself! Arefin shouldn't be about to be booted; he sent a list in for Sunday's draft (and I've reminded Ed of that). Though there might be one or two others who I think are on the verge because I don't have anything for them, but Ed has something. Save yourself a PM and send lists to both of us.

I'm in concurrence with Ed on the 2 5-misses-in-a-row-and-out rule. I'm sorry, folks, but if you say "I'm here" but then don't show up, you AREN'T here.

Koko Ed 09-12-2008 02:19
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Dolan has withdrawn. His teams are now up for grabs. First come. First served.

Vikesrock 09-12-2008 11:51
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
1504 appears to be missing from the available teams pool in the Kettering drafts

Koko Ed 09-12-2008 11:56
Kettering University FIRST Robotics District Competition Rankings
 
862
3060
1684
1025
910
2337
33
314
66
107
70
470
1189
1243
548
49
65
322
468
830
397
494
894
2627
302
245
2586
1
2619
1783
27
1506
1322
1718
573
68
818
2145

EricH 09-12-2008 12:34
San Diego Random List
 
3032
3048
2486
39
1011
1828
1159
1388
2543
2599
2193
3041
2141
2827
1527
1972
2066
2102
2839
3021
2496
2984
2339
1120
1622
2029
2493
675
2637
1538
2485
2658
1266
2032
1572
812
1072
2272
968
1332
1348
393
341

Koko Ed 10-12-2008 14:47
NYC Regional rankings
 
41
56
380
263
354
335
1257
371
1211
1989
2205
2285
237
358
395
3004
1340
2681
1302
1635
2579
1862
806
369
329
694
270
271
2753
743
334
333
527
2070
1880
1698
1600
2573
2933
640
1796
2170
2344
3053
3059
759
421
1396
2577
2895
3017
375
1563
2265
3112
1807
1155
1237
2554
3111
195

IndySam 10-12-2008 15:06
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
How are the picking positions determined? Just wondering because I have picked last 3 times and never first. I also have an average pick position of 7.6 out of 13.3 (yes I was bored today in class.)

EricH 10-12-2008 15:49
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by IndySam (Post 781989)
How are the picking positions determined? Just wondering because I have picked last 3 times and never first. I also have an average pick position of 7.6 out of 13.3 (yes I was bored today in class.)
Randomly. I randomize everyone, then split them into tiers; I could also split everyone into tiers, then randomize just as easily. I'm not quite sure how Ed does it.

Nawaid Ladak 10-12-2008 16:38
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
id perfer the split then randomize... there is a lesser chance of innconsistancies that way

Koko Ed 10-12-2008 16:38
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 782000)
Randomly. I randomize everyone, then split them into tiers; I could also split everyone into tiers, then randomize just as easily. I'm not quite sure how Ed does it.
With this!
Oh and i don't scramble the Tiers. Too lazy.

EricH 10-12-2008 18:29
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nawaid Ladak (Post 782025)
id perfer the split then randomize... there is a lesser chance of innconsistancies that way
There were complaints last year/earlier this year that everyone played against the same people every time. By randomizing and then splitting, you reduce that factor.

You do realize that if every draft was done that way, your (Nawaid's) chances of drawing Barry in your tier go through the roof, right? Especially since because to have 4 tiers (the only way to not have you in the same tier), the regional can't have more than 29 teams. Not many have that few!

EricH 10-12-2008 18:55
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 782026)
With this!
Oh and i don't scramble the Tiers. Too lazy.
Nice try, Ed. You used my Boston scramble-split list for FLR and Oregon. (Then again, that was me scrambling the tiers for you... OK, you don't do it yourself, but your minions do.)

Elgin Clock 10-12-2008 19:05
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Can we get this thead stickied, & the 2008 one unstickied when you get a chance? I couldn't find this thread at all a few minutes ago.

And we have JUST nyc tonight right?

EricH 10-12-2008 19:06
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elgin Clock (Post 782100)
Can we get this thead stickied, & the 2008 one unstickied when you get a chance? I couldn't find this thread at all a few minutes ago.

And we have JUST nyc tonight right?
Correct. You'll have to get a mod on the other one, though.

Barry Bonzack 10-12-2008 20:05
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 782077)
You do realize that...your chances of drawing Barry in your tier go through the roof, right?
I am finding the humor in being the standard when I am not noticing my picks being significantly better than anyone else that is actively participating. It really looks like every one has done their homework this year!



(not deans homework, scouting of course)

EricH 10-12-2008 20:08
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry Bonzack (Post 782149)
I am finding the humor in being the standard when I am not noticing my picks being significantly better than anyone else that is actively participating. It really looks like every one has done their homework this year!
Uh, you're just the winner of last year's Elgin Clock award by a mere 2-300 points (aka 2-3 regionals). So of course you get picked on as a standard.

You're not the only reason, though... the last 10 or so to sign up and stay in are pretty good at sending good lists in.

Michelle Celio 10-12-2008 20:09
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 782101)
Correct. You'll have to get a mod on the other one, though.
Consider it stuck. (and unstuck)

I SHOULD be back to drafting tomorrow. Boo sick and finals and working 2 jobs..

ATannahill 10-12-2008 20:21
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
I don't feel that the picklists are hard, no one should have trouble sending in their lists, you don't have to send them all at once, I only send in the ones relevent to the day that i am sending in.

EricH 10-12-2008 21:24
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 782219)
0705920 and acdcfan259 have been booted from the league for chronic absenteeism. Their teams are now officially up for grabs on a first come first served basis!
I will be going through the tiers they've been in for a while now...

Don't be like them!

FYI, at the moment nobody else is very close to being dropped. Let's keep it that way.

Koko Ed 11-12-2008 11:59
Florida Regional Rankings
 
1029
2422
2565
1144
2640
2568
180
1902
1341
1557
2567
238
2152
2425
1543
2569
408
1922
425
2863
1390
108
59
665
2023
1655
21
168
744
2885
1345
2566
2884
801
2929
2383
945
1875
1649
1612
2886
2757
79
86
103
2797
1616
1251
1889
1523
179
2564
1592
233
1876
25
1284

EricH 11-12-2008 19:03
Dallas random list
 
Heh, I would forget to post this until now...

2981
31
2937
1158
2585
660
2743
1745
1561
1742
2352
3043
2995
2953
2985
2943
3005
3106
2789
2735
2283
2354
2948
935
2469
2787
437
2848
2982
2721
704
2376
2864
2391
418
2841
647
476
2747
2897
1296
2950
2857
1817
932
2947
2965
2004
3037
2805

In case you're wondering, 118 and 148 aren't on the list because they were grabbed first thing in both Dallas tiers.

bduddy 11-12-2008 22:27
Re: FYI
 
Hold on, I'm not sure I get this. Where do you sign up if you only want to do one regional, or is that even allowed? Also, are the drafts live, or are they just by lists?

EricH 11-12-2008 22:33
Re: FYI
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bduddy (Post 782857)
Hold on, I'm not sure I get this. Where do you sign up if you only want to do one regional, or is that even allowed? Also, are the drafts live, or are they just by lists?
If you only want to do one regional, you'll have to create your own league for it. This one is called Season Long for a reason--every regular-season event is done, and the results form those determine picking order for the championship. Registration closed December 1, and drafts started then.

Whether you want to do drafts live or by list is up to you; lists are recommended for Season Long so that you don't get booted out. Live drafting is fine too; we treat lists as though you are there and drafting.

Koko Ed 12-12-2008 11:45
2009 LA Regional Rankings
 
330
1726
1323
1692
1682
2919
702
597
362
1702
1860
2404
2174
2637
1671
2584
696
599
2429
1759
1717
1160
981
687
4
207
1836
995
606
1669
1382
1661
2658
1644
294
1138
1148
1156
1452
1047
691
295
3027
1070
980
1197
2272
1515
848
589
3020
973
399
580
2496
1438
2576
3001
867
585

EricH 12-12-2008 14:52
Proposed schedule changes
 
Your attention please:

How would you feel about doing three drafts per day over the weekend and into the week?

I will have a hard time doing drafts during the week after Christmas and any drafts I do between the week of Christmas and the Kickoff may easily be at an odd time. Unfortunately, this would cause the drafting to run into the build period, when it's harder to pay attention to Fantasy First for some unknown reason:rolleyes:.

However, for the next week or so, I can do two drafts in one day, with different start times. If this works out, it'll be more work during a short burst of time, but you'll get a bit of a break during the holidays. More importantly, it'll reduce the lateness of completing the drafting process.

So, what do you think? Should we do an extra draft each day for the next week, or not?

Jherbie53 12-12-2008 14:54
Re: Proposed schedule changes
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 783097)
Your attention please:

How would you feel about doing three drafts per day over the weekend and into the week?

I will have a hard time doing drafts during the week after Christmas and any drafts I do between the week of Christmas and the Kickoff may easily be at an odd time. Unfortunately, this would cause the drafting to run into the build period, when it's harder to pay attention to Fantasy First for some unknown reason:rolleyes:.

However, for the next week or so, I can do two drafts in one day, with different start times. If this works out, it'll be more work during a short burst of time, but you'll get a bit of a break during the holidays. More importantly, it'll reduce the lateness of completing the drafting process.

So, what do you think? Should we do an extra draft each day for the next week, or not?
If we could get the tiers and times earlier I wouldn't mind doing more drafts.

Koko Ed 12-12-2008 14:55
Re: Proposed schedule changes
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 783097)
Your attention please:

How would you feel about doing three drafts per day over the weekend and into the week?

I will have a hard time doing drafts during the week after Christmas and any drafts I do between the week of Christmas and the Kickoff may easily be at an odd time. Unfortunately, this would cause the drafting to run into the build period, when it's harder to pay attention to Fantasy First for some unknown reason:rolleyes:.

However, for the next week or so, I can do two drafts in one day, with different start times. If this works out, it'll be more work during a short burst of time, but you'll get a bit of a break during the holidays. More importantly, it'll reduce the lateness of completing the drafting process.

So, what do you think? Should we do an extra draft each day for the next week, or not?
Obviously I'm all for it.

Vikesrock 12-12-2008 14:56
Re: Proposed schedule changes
 
Uggghhh, I'm starting finals now and they run until Wednesday. I would prefer not to add any more drafts during that period if possible.

I would be willing to help out and run some drafts after my finals are done if that's what you need.

Tottanka 12-12-2008 15:17
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
i'm good either way...

ATannahill 12-12-2008 15:36
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
I say keep it out of build season, have all the picks except champs before jan 3rd

I am even willing to run a draft on fridays, saturdays, or anytime after dec. 19th, if that helps.

Elgin Clock 12-12-2008 15:41
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Can we just release the lists earlier, & have the same times & set dates for required picking times??

The Dallas draft ran real quickly yesterday, & I was able to actually pick earlier than the scheduled time which worked out VERY WELL for me. (Since I wasn't going to be around my scheduled time) - Same with this weekend actually, since I have a weekends worth of FLL things to do which will run into the time we are supposed to pick... Ughh...

If we can have the times stay the same, but release the lists a lot earlier (Noon-ish or even the day before) then that would speed some along in my opinion.

Dare I even suggest that you can even release ALL the rest of the lists tomorrow & then let them flow until they fill up, or have to be interveined by the commisoners to move them along by a random pick.

Whatever you guys decide will work for me, just if we ARE going to go into the build season, or even before, give a couple of days notice for each tier list so we can have something ready. I know I will be away from the computer for a couple days around kickoff while I am up in NH & don't want to get booted because I missed a few picks, or didn't respond to a PM.
Same thing with Christmas day & New Year's eve & day.

JackN 12-12-2008 15:55
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
I could see doing 3 drafts a day on the weekends maybe, but during the week it is more difficult for me. Also if we are planning on doing three a day would it be possible to know tiers and such for picking a day early?

Joe G. 12-12-2008 16:04
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
3 a day would be bad here at the moment, due to semi-long term power outages due to ice as of now. I'll try to get as many done as possible during brief periods like these that I have computer access, and once all this clears up, I'd be fine with 3 a day.

I could try my hand at running a couple of drafts, very late in the season would be best.

I agree that whatever we do, releasing tiers and lists early can't hurt.

EricH 12-12-2008 16:37
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Releasing tiers early could be done. Not all at once, but say, up to two days in advance?

Also, bear in mind that you don't have to submit just the lists for the day. Several people could get away with not showing up for a while because we've got several upcoming lists for them--the FIRST site has the teams.

General consensus is that 1) we don't want to get behind schedule and draft during build, 2) 3 drafts a day might be a bit much during the week, 3) there are several people willing to help out.

So, here's a revised solution:
  • This weekend, go with 3 per day. I run 2 at different times, Ed runs 1.
  • One of Monday's drafts is early (or a "trial run" for a new draft runner).
  • This week, two a day, but maybe a third one every now and again to stay up/make sure we don't lose time.
  • Find another person to run drafts while doing the above. Said draft leader would start sometime this week/weekend, and do more after the 19th.
The reason for the last one is simple: as FIRST adds more events, FF has to add them too. As more events are added to our schedule, having more people that can run a draft reliably becomes important--it's possible that in the near future, we have to do two per day, every day, to keep up, and nobody can keep that up.

What do you guys think?

I think a reasonable deadline for a solution is the end of tonight's draft; if you guys like the solution, Silicon Valley would be added to tomorrow's schedule and Sunday would have Wisconsin, Israel, and Arizona. After that, the entire schedule slides up a day with the exception of Palmetto or Seattle.

Barry Bonzack 12-12-2008 16:52
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
I am having a hard time keeping up with drafts as is, I would be happy to volunteer my efforts while I'm in Oklahoma and have nothing to do. I would just need draft lists sent to me.

FTC 1902 has a competition tomorrow, and I will not be near a computer with internet


I leave for Oklahoma next Thursday, and will be there until the day after kickoff. I will be able to use my parents' computer

IndySam 12-12-2008 17:21
Re: Proposed schedule changes
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 783097)
Your attention please:

How would you feel about doing three drafts per day over the weekend and into the week?

I will have a hard time doing drafts during the week after Christmas and any drafts I do between the week of Christmas and the Kickoff may easily be at an odd time. Unfortunately, this would cause the drafting to run into the build period, when it's harder to pay attention to Fantasy First for some unknown reason:rolleyes:.

However, for the next week or so, I can do two drafts in one day, with different start times. If this works out, it'll be more work during a short burst of time, but you'll get a bit of a break during the holidays. More importantly, it'll reduce the lateness of completing the drafting process.

So, what do you think? Should we do an extra draft each day for the next week, or not?
give us the lists several days in advance and OK, otherwise I would say no.

IndySam 12-12-2008 17:24
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 783142)
[*]This weekend, go with 3 per day. I run 2 at different times, Ed runs 1.
no way I can do three on Saturday with less than one days notice.

EricH 12-12-2008 17:26
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by IndySam (Post 783166)
no way I can do three on Saturday with less than one days notice.
How about Sunday?


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