Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

The only one affected in the other tiers is SamSofa330, AFAIK

Updated list is posted in CD-Media
 

I have just posted an updated list in CD-Media at http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2212?

Please, please, check your teams. A number of you still have known draft issues. If you just want random teams, that's just fine; let me know so I can deal with it before I have to score the event.

If you can't read it, let me know and I'll tell you which events you have issues in.

I may or may not do final checks the week(ends) before each event, so from this point on, your teams are your responsibility to watch for.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Randomize please!

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Randomized.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Hit me with that randomizer!

Thanks Ed, Eric, and others who have helped put this season on!

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

EricH/Ed according to the sheet it says that i have team 1866, when i actually have team 1886 who is attending

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Which regional is that, Jack?

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Chesapeake. I fixed it.

Get ready to launch
 

Hello, Fantasy FIRSTers!

With less than one week before the Week One drafts lock, six people have yet to choose replacements for missing teams in the week. The scoring staff (me) would greatly appreciate your choosing replacements before the drafts lock.

If you have any of the following teams at the listed events, please either choose a new team or let me know that you want a random team. If you say that you want random, I will apply that to all missing teams that you have unless otherwise specified. No response will get you a random team for the event in question to replace the missing team. You will not be notified of which team you get until the list is re-released.

Week 1:
Buckeye: 1626, 1075, 2166
Midwest: 1770, 3030
Oklahoma City: 425, 1863

Reminder: The Michigan Championship will draft April 1. This is to allow the maximum time for teams to say they are coming. The tier lists will probably be released during the Week 5 events.

I will release the scores each week, if I have internet access. I will be traveling around the time of Week 2/Week 3, but should still be able to post scores and issues.

Re: Get ready to launch
 

Add Traverse City: 94, 835

I know that one of the people with 94 has already picked up another team.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Randomize for Waterloo

i dont think there are any other issues...

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Randomized and no other issues.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

So where's the Traverse City list?

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

In the posts titled "Traverse City Tier X". Or on the FIRST website, under FRC events->Michigan Districts.

You don't have to worry; you personally aren't participating in the Season Long Fantasy FIRST last I checked.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Does anyone know when the list of teams attending an event gets locked?

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Wednesday night.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

I meant a page like https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index....=2009&event=XX not our draft lists.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Theoretically, those are already locked. There are ways to change events/drop out at the last minute, though. It has been the case that a registered team didn't show up for whatever reason and didn't drop out before the last second.

If it's the Wednesday before the event, it's pretty safe to say the list is locked. That's why we lock ours the Wednesday night before the event.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

although you all still have a couple weeks to worry about it, every may want to be aware that 1251 informed me they have dropped the Palmetto Regional

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Any week one regionals of mine need editing?
Let me know soon & I'll pick them.

If not, then let me know what I need to fix/change for any other weeks.

Thanks!

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Thanks for the heads up Barry!

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Buckeye and Midwest (Week 1) are each missing one team, along with San Diego, Dallas (full alliance... ouch), Florida, and Chesapeake.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

All week one rosters are now locked (if you have not picked a replacement for non attending teams you will be randomly assigned one).
Good luck to all participants!

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Random teams have been assigned. If you don't like the team you got, figure out if you have any issues in upcoming weeks and act accordingly.

(I did it this fast because a) replacing them while scoring is a pain in the rear, b) it's faster this way, and c) I got a hectic enough week next week...)

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Alright, I got the team scoring done except for a few things.

Buckeye second day awards and tournament results don't seem to be up.

I'm not sure which teams the WFA's at NJ or OK are from.

The last thing is, are wins/losses only counted from Quals or are Elims included as well? Right now I have it as only from Quals.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Total W/L/T record. TBA calculates that automatically, IIRC.

Just for grins, I did my teams for the week. I'm pleasantly surprised--either I was over 50 points per event or I had negative.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Alright, I'll change that over. As I started doing that I noticed that the BAE finals are not posted right, I am fairly certain that it is just missing a match that was won by the 121 alliance and I will enter it this way.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Alright, Excel sheet has been upped here:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2219

I left Buckeye blank because of all the missing info and I still don't know what team the WFA from OK is from.

EDIT: Thanks Akash!

PS. I'm loving the 253 pt. performance by my DC alliance.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

The mentor for NJ is currently on team 2180.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

I would like to remind all participants to check their own lists against everyone else's in their tier. Sometimes it happens that a team is double-picked and people who notice issues (all of you) miss it. This happened in BAE Tier 1, and was only noticed during scoring (i.e., about 5 minutes ago).

When this happens, I don't like my alternatives: ignore it or give a random team that may or may not be better. I will usually grab the first team that isn't picked off the random list, no matter the reason they aren't picked. The random team will always go to the second person to get the double-picked team. This random team may be worse than the team you had! This was the case in BAE.

Any replaced teams will not be posted; however, they will be in bold when the score sheets come out each week. They will then revert to normal text the next week.

Edit: I am also removing tier indicators from events that have been completed.

Edit #2: You know how Barry was saying that he found it ironic that he was the standard and was struggling, a few months ago? He's in first by about 40 points right now. Then again, 7 players are within 100 points. The real irony is who's currently in last. Hint: the award for the top player after regionals are done is named for him.

Then again, I've only done 3 events, and Buckeye isn't ready yet.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

looks like before BuckEYE results, i have 437 - i can say im pleased, even though my awesome 3 NJ picks were ranked low (25,1676,522...who saw that coming...i guess EricH :D)

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Update: Pre-OKC and Buckeye scoring, Vikesrock is in the lead by almost 100 points over Barry, who has another 100 points on me, and after that, it gets into a battleground with Alex in 4th and Ed in 5th.

I have asked CDers for help on the Buckeye Saturday awards, as well as the team of the OKC WFFA winner. I expect to finish either later tonight (much later) or sometime tomorrow.

Edit: I've gotten a fair piece into the Buckeye scoring. About the only thing I have left is the awards. That could take a while. I won't finish scoring until I have all the data... Worst comes to worst, I release the scoring sheet missing 2 events, which are either added later or ignored.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

I'm sitting at 448 before the Buckeye scores. Hopefully consistent scores keep me in this. I'm happy about having my team for Wisconsin in week 3. I just wish I had my team for Midwest. Oh well

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

FYI the buckeye awards are up http://www2.usfirst.org/2009comp/events/OH/awards.html

Just thought you guys might want to know.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Thanks.

Also, I got the OKC WFFA winner's team: 932.

Scoring should be done later tonight.

Week 1 SCORES! and upcoming issues
 

The score sheet is at: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2221

Pay attention to this: I have highlighted issues. If your name is on the following list, you need to look at the spreadsheet and pick new teams before Wednesday's draft locking to avoid random teams!

Tottanka
SamSofa330
rocketperson44
Elgin Clock
Pat McCarthy
rtfgnow
Barry Bonzack
Arefin Bari
Kristian Calhoun
Oris
Nawaid Ladak

And now, the short version of the scores:
EDIT: Oris, you need to pick another 2nd pick in FLR. Yeah, I just found the double pick.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Yeah... great... thanks for the unofficial shout-out! lol :p :o
Aye... Lunacy changes everything you know about FIRST games.
Case in point... this ranking... among a lot of other things - regional winners (and who's lost this season so far) being a close second.

Re: Week 1 SCORES! and upcoming issues
 

Eric can you post the scores to Buckeye, please.

Re: Week 1 SCORES! and upcoming issues
 

They'll be in the same place as the rest of the scores..

Re: Week 1 SCORES! and upcoming issues
 

Thanks.
I want to make a FF top 25 list.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

250 points back after week one, getting nothing from OKC and getting a lot less than expected from NJ and KC I am feeling fairly confident. I am extremely impressed by Vikesrock throwing 773 on the board after week 1. I am sure everyone will be playing catchup all season.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Barry is too close for comfort.
Let's see what happens week 2.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

I am happy and surprised. :)

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

I'm sure I'll start falling back to the pack soon enough. I got really lucky to get 45, 234 and 118 for DC and both 111 and 217 for Midwest. 2753 carried NJ for me.

I'm not particularly confidant about my picks for next week so we'll see how it goes.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Real quick: Alex and Pat, you each lost 39 in San Diego.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

I saw that today. Give me the best random.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

In this case, 1828.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Alex, I got to ask, what is a good random?

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Well... if it's not the best, then when the regionals are over he will give me the best. ya see now?

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

I'll take the best or second best random, like Alex (I'm too lazy to check if we're in the same tier).

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

If you're both missing 39, you aren't. You'll actually get the 2 best randoms that remain, as 675 isn't there either.

Edit: Make those randoms 2193 and 2543.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Seeing as Ed hasn't locked the drafts yet, and it's late Wednesday night...

All Week 2 drafts are now locked! Missing teams will be replaced with random teams; expect the replacements to be up tomorrow night, or with the full sheet.

Good luck to all participants!

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

The list of random replacement teams by event:

Player, Tier, old team->new team

San Diego:
Kristian Calhoun, T2, 3048->2827
Barry Bonzack, T2, 2102->1527
Arefin Bari, T2, 1120->1972

FLR:
Tottanka, T1, 2166->2791
Pat McCarthy, T2, 87->2791
NickE, T2, 3003->771

Boston:
SamSofa330, T2, 2371->2888

NYC:
Kristian Calhoun, T2, 195->358
Nawaid Ladak, T2, 2170->1635

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

man, this is the first time I check chiefdelphi since last saturday. You mean I'm not winning? That un-possible 0.o

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

wow i'm lookin' good!

CA in boston, CA,rookie all srat and finalist in FLR, QF,SF,2nd seed, 8th seed, for SDC (not over yet), and also looking good in Oregon!

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

wow i'm lookin' good!

CA in boston,QF QF Finalist in Kattering, CA and finalist in FLR, QF SF 2nd seed & 8th seed for SDC (not over yet), and also looking good in Oregon!

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

I've got everything scored up through Oregon (for teams). When it's finished up I'll score that one then update the sheet I posted last week.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Alright the sheet I posted last week is now updated through week 2 except NY for anyone that wants to check out how they're doing.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2219

EDIT: I scored me and Barry real quick and Barry closed the gap to 26pts. if I got everything right

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

you mind saying how much that is?

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

I'm at 1139 and Barry is at 1113 if I entered everything right.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

I'll try to score Week 2 tomorrow, other than NYC. No guarantees on time, though. Tuesday at latest. Having the scoring ready this fast really helps.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

The teams scoring sheet has been updated to include NYC.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2219

EDIT: Sorry to say Barry that NYC erased any gains you made this week and I'm now ahead of you by more than I was last week

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

I appreciate everyone's effort in scoring, I have been mad busy lately. I'm surprised I am closing the gap instead of widening it, I feel like I've had some regionals where all three of my picks didn't even make it in eliminations.

I'm betting Vikerock's name will be on the Elgin Clock Award this year, he is putting more effort into updating his pick list week to week.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

I'm still scoring Week 2 (having a long competition with no time to spare will do that to you), but I am going to post the Week 3 issues list. And it's a large one...

SamSofa330, SVR 3rd pick
Michelle Celio, LA 2nd pick, Pittsburgh & SVR 3rd picks, Israel 2nd pick
Elgin Clock, Dallas all picks, Florida 2nd pick
Liz Smith, Dallas 1st pick, LA 2nd pick
Arefin Bari, Florida 1st pick, Peachtree 3rd pick
Nawaid Ladak, Dallas & Florida 3rd picks

Once again, if you haven't picked a replacement for a missing team, one will be chosen for you from the random list.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

In conjunction with my Java OPR GUI, I'm going to work on an automated scoring mechanism for FF. (Man I love OOD) I should be able to test it by Week 6, so maybe we can automate it via Twitter or CD-Spy when the Championships arrive.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

There is one, but I haven't set it up yet. Partly because I'm not quite sure how.

Just to be clear, I'm scoring the participants, not the teams. I have 3 events left for the week; next week's should be faster.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

I was looking through the FF pick sheet and realized that I have 2520 for both the Hawaii and Vegas regionals in the same week. Now I would be thoroughly impressed if they could do that, however.. I think there was just a clerical error along the way, I should have 2443 for Hawaii instead of 2520. So if that could be fixed on whatever master sheet there is, that'd be awesome.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Good catch, Greg.

I'll have the current sheet up shortly, soon as I check on a couple of teams and make corrections as needed.

Also: The scoring sheet that Vikesrock posted is incorrect for the Oregon regional seeding points. To fix: Select the entire sheet and sort by seed, lowest to highest. Then apply the following points:

20 for the 1st seed
12 for 2nd and 3rd
6 for the rest of the top 8
3 for 9th -12th
2 for 13th-16th
0 for everybody else.

This is the only problem I've seen so far, and it looks like a simple mis-selection somewhere in the sorting process.

Week 2 SCORES
 

Full details are in the same place as last time. Breaking news is, it looks like Barry is now in the lead by 18 points over Vikesrock.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Heh, you scared me there for a second Eric. On the Master Score sheet I have 340x4xLife's Week2 score. My score needs to go there and each player below me needs the proper score as well

Actual standings

Sorry about the Oregon error, I know how it happened and I'll try to make sure I check that before posting next time. I've fixed my copy, but don't have time to upload it right now.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Heh. I somehow had the score-grabber skipping a step. I've checked the others and will uploaded the correct version.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

OK, here's where I'm at with the team scores for week 3.

Israel is not up yet.
Peachtree standings aren't up.

WFFA teams are missing for Dallas, WI, and LA

Rookie Inspiration missing from Dallas.

I'll post what I have for now in the same spot as before

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

The team rankings for GA is available on the SOAP gameday site.

Where do you usually post? i want to see if i moved up this week. ;P

EDIT/ Never mind, I found it. 354 points this week without counting my EI and others from GA. Wahoo.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Thanks Alex! Peachtree has been added

The sheet is here:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2219

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

WFFA for L.A. is Team 1197 (total coincidence).

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

before peachtree:

Barry: 505
Vikes: 631
Me: 354

boo... :p

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

I got 415 this week from my calculations

I'm not seeing 2835 for Pittsburgh though. Did they not attend?

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

i did 646 this week. WOOHOO!

(beat ya Alex :P)

and i am missing a pick for Dallas...where is 2981?

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

They are still on the team list, but they aren't on the match list so I guess they didn't show up

Nope they are only listed as going to Buckeye so they must have pulled out.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

OK, what do we do about a no show?

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

I give a random team in place of the no show. Depending on how thorough I'm in the mood for, it could be the next team on the official random list or simply a team from the list, provided they're showing up. What the team is won't be announced, but they will be bolded on the spreadsheet, which again will show up sometime either tomorrow or Tuesday, with Tuesday more likely due to homework.

FYI
 

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

The Week 3 score sheet is at http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2221 as usual.

The following need to replace teams for Week 4:
SamSofa330, Philly 1st, Waterloo 2nd
Indysam, Waterloo 2nd
Kristian Calhoun, Detroit 2nd
340x4xLife, Bayou 3rd

The scores are:
Edit: I forgot to add that the RIS in Dallas and the WFFAs in Dallas and Wisconsin have been tracked down. They are 2817, 647, and 537, respectively. This has been accounted for in the scoring already.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Oink-Oink-BOOMSHOCKALOCKA

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

My only goal at this point is to beat Alex, come on baby keep it going.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

I have also added them to the team scoring sheet and was just coming here to post that it has been updated. I'm on Spring Break so the sheet will probably be updated with Israel shortly after results are posted for that event.

Nice work tracking me down Barry, I knew I hadn't built up nearly enough of a lead to feel safe. These MI events are killing me, hopefully I can get some points back there next week with 65,66 and 201 at Detroit and 67 over at Lansing.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Just give me random, thanks.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

I guess it's time to remind you of this to remind you that yes, you are (for the moment) still the standard...:P

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Oh man... I knew that Tottanka was coming up and would pass me, but you Jack. I didn't think it would happen. Let's see how the next week plays out. I have a Strong alliance in Philly... I am expecting at least two champions to come out of my three teams.

With that... Has anyone ever selected the entire winning alliance?

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

No better than 2/3, at least during the Season Long events. The real trick is to get the RCA/regional winner, plus another regional winner, and have a regional finalist, and that might have happened once.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Yep, I managed that for DC with 234, 45 and 118. This alliance did take an incredible amount of luck to assemble however.

Locking notice
 

I guess it's that time of week again...

Consider Week 4 locked for trading. At this point, only random teams will be assigned for any Week 4 events (and Israel).

And for Week 5 the following should probably trade some teams:
SamC (formerly SamSofa330), GTR 1st
rocketperson44, Vegas 1st
NickE, Palmetto 1st
Michelle Celio, Palmetto 1st
Liz Smith, Lone Star 1st
Indysam, Palmetto 2nd
340x4xLife, Lone Star 1st
Nawaid Ladak, Palmetto 1st

As a reminder, the MI State Championship draft will be the Wednesday before Week 6, and drafts will lock shortly after it finishes.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

I've got Israel teams scored up for the robot stuff, once the awards get posted either on FIRST's site or CD I can get the sheet updated.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

The awards are now up...

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Israel has been scored; the scores will be with the sheet.

However, Barry didn't build up a big enough lead; the top 5 are now:

Vikesrock, 1761
Barry, 1729
Tottanka, 1641
Jack, 1514
Alex, 1375

Tottanka's home-field advantage paid off this year, as he got the second-highest score for Israel... (Last year, it didn't.)

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

The sheet for week 4 is now up with a few missing awards.

Chesapeake: WFFA team missing
Boilermaker: Imagery assumed to be 1501 not 1510, not sure who Delphi Technology is supposed to be as the team listed did not attend.
Arizona: WFFA team missing
Bayou: WFFA team missing

Oh, and Barry smoked me in regionals this week with 737 to my 418. I beat him by 192 in the 2 districts to put me down just short of 100 heading into the last big week :(

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Wow i really messed p this week.., a total of 350 points...goodbye Barry.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

Just when I think I put up a pretty high score of 707 (including Michigan districts, 576 without Michigan) and that there's no way anyone passed, Barry goes and gets 737 (not sure if that includes districts or not). I'd be a lot closer in the final scoring if I hadn't completely failed Week 2, meh. Anyway, good job Barry.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

I've tracked down all but 2 of the missing ones and am accounting for them in scoring.
Chesapeake: 134
Boilermaker: Correct assumption; still waiting on Technology
Arizona: 2570
Bayou: Working on it.

Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 

I got 735 this week by my count. I think that should help me catch up a lot. This was a good week for me. :)