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Koko Ed 21-07-2008 06:38
[FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
It's time to start up season two. Season one was a big success and season two should be even better! So sign on up.
Before you do a disclaimer:

Please make sure you have the time to devote to 44 drafts within a one month period. I'm not going to require 44 lists (yet) because I don't even know what weeks the regionals are on but what I will do is if you miss five drafts in a row (that means if you don't make one pick or have sent me a list) you will receive a PM from me. If I don't receive a timely response (24 hours) you are booted from the league!
I would rather have a league of a dozen dedicated participants than a hundred who think participation is hitting the sign up button and never being heard from again. I put in alot of time and effort into this and the least you can do is show up once in a while. So if you cannot dedicate the time do us both a favor and refrain from hitting the reply button.
Thanks.

1. Koko Ed

Tottanka 21-07-2008 08:00
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka

jtdowney 21-07-2008 09:08
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
I'll throw my hat in the ring.

1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney

Jherbie53 21-07-2008 11:10
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
I'm in.

1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53

Travis Hoffman 21-07-2008 11:31
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman

Joe G. 21-07-2008 13:32
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44

EricH 21-07-2008 14:35
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
I'll get my hat in the ring too. Need help on the drafts again?

1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH

Koko Ed 21-07-2008 15:00
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 757877)
I'll get my hat in the ring too. Need help on the drafts again?

1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
What would I do without my right hand man?
Glad to have you back, Eric.

NickE 21-07-2008 15:02
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE

Kellen Hill 21-07-2008 15:08
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill

Let me know if you need any help

Dolan 21-07-2008 15:11
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
I hate to look like a noob but what is this thread about

NickE 21-07-2008 15:14
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolan (Post 757890)
I hate to look like a noob but what is this thread about
Fantasy First

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=28625

Dolan 21-07-2008 15:35
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Sounds fun

1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan

EricH 21-07-2008 17:06
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
As a note, I'm already getting ready--I'm setting up the scoring/alliance tabulation sheet. (Remembering how long it took last year to do that afterwards... It'll be much easier to do it as it happens.)

Koko Ed 21-07-2008 20:05
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 757913)
As a note, I'm already getting ready--I'm setting up the scoring/alliance tabulation sheet. (Remembering how long it took last year to do that afterwards... It'll be much easier to do it as it happens.)
Yeah, if we can stay ahead of the curve hopefully we'll be able to stay on top of things better this year.

acdcfan259 21-07-2008 20:12
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259

JesseK 22-07-2008 10:54
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
When do drafts start?

jtdowney 22-07-2008 10:56
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JesseK (Post 758049)
When do drafts start?
December, we will have a good understanding of who is attending what regionals by then

JesseK 22-07-2008 10:59
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK

Michelle Celio 22-07-2008 11:05
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Why not..

1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio

Elgin Clock 22-07-2008 12:23
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
I take seeing my awesome FF Championship Edition award winning team from '05 winning at IRI this past weekend as a sign that I should join FF yet again. (Go Team 67! w00t!)


1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock

Koko Ed 22-07-2008 13:24
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elgin Clock (Post 758067)
I take seeing my awesome FF Championship Edition award winning team from '05 winning at IRI this past weekend as a sign that I should join FF yet again. (Go Team 67! w00t!)


1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
My goodness!
The Prodigal son returns!

JackN 22-07-2008 13:28
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
I'm in, hopefully i can improve on my disapointing finish.

This year can the different leagues be randomized so that some people don't consistently get a bunch of good teams for free?

Koko Ed 22-07-2008 13:46
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JackN (Post 758089)
I'm in, hopefully i can improve on my disapointing finish.

This year can the different leagues be randomized so that some people don't consistently get a bunch of good teams for free?
People won't be getting away with that this year because if there are delinquent owners they will be removed.

Sunbun 22-07-2008 15:06
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Eh, why not?

1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. Sunbun

Alex Cormier 22-07-2008 15:13
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 758090)
People won't be getting away with that this year because if there are delinquent owners they will be removed.
how about random tiers too? so... we don't play the same people each time.

btw... i am in

Stephi Rae 22-07-2008 21:00
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Sounds like fun to me!

1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. Sunbun
16. Stephi Rae

Akash Rastogi 22-07-2008 21:29
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Just as a quick refresher, the new regionals are: DC, New Zealand, and ...Dallas?

Koko Ed 22-07-2008 21:32
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lilstogi11 (Post 758163)
Just as a quick refresher, the new regionals are: DC, New Zealand, and ...Dallas?
Those are they.

Liz Smith 23-07-2008 09:56
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. Sunbun
16. Alex Cormier
17. Stephi Rae
18. Liz Smith

Fixed the list and added myself in there too. :)

acdcfan259 23-07-2008 15:59
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Liz Smith (Post 758243)
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. Sunbun
16. Alex Cormier
17. Stephi Rae
18. Liz Smith

Fixed the list and added myself in there too. :)
Actually this is the list.
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith

We all seem to have ignored poor JackN.

Koko Ed 23-07-2008 16:02
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by acdcfan259 (Post 758335)
Actually this is the list.
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith

We all seem to have ignored poor JackN.
heh.


ooops.

Pat McCarthy 26-07-2008 15:55
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy

What the heck, I'll give this a try for 2009!

tim_reiher 27-07-2008 02:06
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. tim_reiher

Let's do this!

XaulZan11 27-07-2008 16:34
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. tim_reiher
22. XaulZan11

xzvrw2 27-07-2008 17:22
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
can i be in?????
its been a while but im back

Koko Ed 27-07-2008 17:24
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by xzvrw2 (Post 758933)
can i be in?????
its been a while but im back
So long as you show up in December.

Ken Patton 28-07-2008 12:07
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
omg Stevie's in? Count me in too then ;)

Koko Ed 28-07-2008 13:26
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. tim_reiher
22. XaulZan11
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton

Barry Bonzack 29-07-2008 22:47
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
The Elgin Clock is mine!

1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. tim_reiher
22. XaulZan11
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton
25. Barry Bonzack

EricH 30-07-2008 15:17
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Ed, how is the new Michigan structure going to affect FF? I might suggest only using the Championship, or doing all the events, as the only fair ways to do it. (Of course, Michigan could be skipped, but that would not be fair to those teams.)

Koko Ed 30-07-2008 16:10
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 759350)
Ed, how is the new Michigan structure going to affect FF? I might suggest only using the Championship, or doing all the events, as the only fair ways to do it. (Of course, Michigan could be skipped, but that would not be fair to those teams.)
I say: GO FOR IT!!!!

EricH 30-07-2008 16:17
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 759376)
I say: GO FOR IT!!!!
As in, all events? Guess I better start figuring out how to do that in the spreadsheet...

Koko Ed 30-07-2008 16:29
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 759380)
As in, all events? Guess I better start figuring out how to do that in the spreadsheet...
Yep.
We'd best do that.
I want to see what the schedule will look like first.

EricH 30-07-2008 16:32
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 759384)
Yep.
We'd best do that.
I want to see what the schedule will look like first.
I'm getting a (hopefully) easier to use sheet ready. I don't need a schedule... yet. When one comes out, an hour should have the sheet ready. Does both alliance and score on an event-by-event basis, then totals it up and puts the result elsewhere. Next step (after figuring out which events are on which weeks) is streamlining it into weeks.

As a side question-- 5 missed drafts in a row and out: Should that be days, or drafts, due to running multiple drafts on the same day, as we'll need to do to get all the drafts done in time?

Laaba 80 30-07-2008 17:38
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Sounds like fun, Im in
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. tim_reiher
22. XaulZan11
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton
25. Barry Bonzack
26. Laaba 80

Ericgehrken 30-07-2008 19:26
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Im in
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. tim_reiher
22. XaulZan11
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton
25. Barry Bonzack
26. Laaba 80
27. firstbots195

Tetraman 26-08-2008 13:21
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. tim_reiher
22. XaulZan11
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton
25. Barry Bonzack
26. Laaba 80
27. firstbots195
28. Tetraman

IndySam 26-08-2008 13:26
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. tim_reiher
22. XaulZan11
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton
25. Barry Bonzack
26. Laaba 80
27. firstbots195
28. Tetraman
29. Indysam

Tim Delles 11-09-2008 18:01
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Hrmmm.... I have very little to do with FIRST this year (yes Ed... i doubt I will be to FLR even...), but I'll make time for this. You just have to... :)

1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. tim_reiher
22. XaulZan11
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton
25. Barry Bonzack
26. Laaba 80
27. firstbots195
28. Tetraman
29. Indysam
30. Tim Delles

ATannahill 11-09-2008 18:12
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. tim_reiher
22. XaulZan11
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton
25. Barry Bonzack
26. Laaba 80
27. firstbots195
28. Tetraman
29. Indysam
30. Tim Delles
31. rtfgnow

BornaE 11-09-2008 18:50
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. tim_reiher
22. XaulZan11
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton
25. Barry Bonzack
26. Laaba 80
27. firstbots195
28. Tetraman
29. Indysam
30. Tim Delles
31. rtfgnow
32. 0705920

JesseK 12-09-2008 11:01
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
If only Steve Smith didn't get suspended, sigh. I would've won my first week of FF.

Oh wait... haha. In all seriousness I hope you guys are ready!

EricH 12-09-2008 12:52
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JesseK (Post 765112)
If only Steve Smith didn't get suspended, sigh. I would've won my first week of FF.

Oh wait... haha. In all seriousness I hope you guys are ready!
Are you going to join us? Similar setup, but it's FIRST style!

JesseK 12-09-2008 13:39
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Yea I'm on the list already.

EricH 12-09-2008 13:47
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Guess I missed that on the quick re-read.

Koko Ed 12-09-2008 14:39
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 765140)
Guess I missed that on the quick re-read.
Jess is number 12.
I'll wait til the official regional list is released before I start listing draft dates.

cobrawanabe1699 29-09-2008 19:49
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. tim_reiher
22. XaulZan11
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton
25. Barry Bonzack
26. Laaba 80
27. firstbots195
28. Tetraman
29. Indysam
30. Tim Delles
31. rtfgnow
32. 0705920
33. Wannabe

Meh, what the heck? I might as well try it. I may not be able to attend all the drafts, though:(

EricH 29-09-2008 19:56
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cobrawanabe1699 (Post 767819)
I may not be able to attend all the drafts, though:(
Which is why you can send in a list of teams before the draft. Put a list of the teams you want in order, PM it to whoever is running that particular draft (or everyone who is running drafts), and when your turn to pick comes up, the first unclaimed team is yours.

qwertyuiop[]\ 29-09-2008 20:05
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. tim_reiher
22. XaulZan11
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton
25. Barry Bonzack
26. Laaba 80
27. firstbots195
28. Tetraman
29. Indysam
30. Tim Delles
31. rtfgnow
32. 0705920
33. Wannabe
34. qwertyuiop[]\

Koko Ed 29-09-2008 20:39
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cobrawanabe1699 (Post 767819)
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. tim_reiher
22. XaulZan11
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton
25. Barry Bonzack
26. Laaba 80
27. firstbots195
28. Tetraman
29. Indysam
30. Tim Delles
31. rtfgnow
32. 0705920
33. Wannabe

Meh, what the heck? I might as well try it. I may not be able to attend all the drafts, though:(
Take note: In the first post I made it clear that if you miss five drafts in a row you could risk getting booted. as Eric had mentioned send a list in to either me or Eric (my right hand man) and we'll take care of it. You can just copy/paste the team list if you must (just be warned you could end up with a very crummy set of teams that way).

Kristian Calhoun 11-10-2008 22:23
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Count me in, Ed. :cool:

1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. tim_reiher
22. XaulZan11
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton
25. Barry Bonzack
26. Laaba 80
27. firstbots195
28. Tetraman
29. Indysam
30. Tim Delles
31. rtfgnow
32. 0705920
33. Wannabe
34. qwertyuiop[]\
35. Kristian Calhoun

EricH 11-10-2008 22:35
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
As a note to all Fantasy Firsters: Be prepared for 47 drafts, not 44, due to the addition of 4 events in MI and the loss of the NZ Regional.

And yes, you can probably expect 2+ drafts per day. When there's only about a month to do this... On the plus side, we're better prepared this year for drafting.

Vikesrock 12-10-2008 14:35
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
I'm in

1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. tim_reiher
22. XaulZan11
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton
25. Barry Bonzack
26. Laaba 80
27. firstbots195
28. Tetraman
29. Indysam
30. Tim Delles
31. rtfgnow
32. 0705920
33. Wannabe
34. qwertyuiop[]\
35. Kristian Calhoun
36. Vikesrock

Justin Montois 20-10-2008 19:10
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Can't Wait!! Count me in.

1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. tim_reiher
22. XaulZan11
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton
25. Barry Bonzack
26. Laaba 80
27. firstbots195
28. Tetraman
29. Indysam
30. Tim Delles
31. rtfgnow
32. 0705920
33. Wannabe
34. qwertyuiop[]\
35. Kristian Calhoun
36. Vikesrock
37. 340x4xLife

TeAm270RoCkS 29-10-2008 21:25
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. tim_reiher
22. XaulZan11
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton
25. Barry Bonzack
26. Laaba 80
27. firstbots195
28. Tetraman
29. Indysam
30. Tim Delles
31. rtfgnow
32. 0705920
33. Wannabe
34. qwertyuiop[]\
35. Kristian Calhoun
36. Vikesrock
37. 340x4xLife
38. TeAm270RoCkS

lukevanoort 29-10-2008 21:34
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. Travis Hoffman
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. tim_reiher
22. XaulZan11
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton
25. Barry Bonzack
26. Laaba 80
27. firstbots195
28. Tetraman
29. Indysam
30. Tim Delles
31. rtfgnow
32. 0705920
33. Wannabe
34. qwertyuiop[]\
35. Kristian Calhoun
36. Vikesrock
37. 340x4xLife
38. TeAm270RoCkS
39. lukevanoort

Koko Ed 01-11-2008 22:02
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Sounding the one month warning til the drafts begin.

Koko Ed 06-11-2008 15:14
FYI
 
Here is the schedule for the 2009 Season Long FF Drafts.
Dec 1BAE Granite State Regional
Dec 2Buckeye Regional , Traverse City FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 3Greater Kansas City Regional
Dec 4Midwest Regional
Dec 5New Jersey Regional
Dec 6Washington DC Regional
Dec 7Boston Regional
Dec 8Finger Lakes Regional , Oregon Regional
Dec 9San Diego Regional , Kettering University FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 10New York City Regional
Dec 11Dallas Regional , Florida Regional
Dec 12Los Angeles Regional
Dec 13Peachtree Regional , Pittsburgh Regional
Dec 14Silicon Valley Regional , Wisconsin Regional
Dec 15Israel Regional , Arizona Regional
Dec 16Bayou Regional , Cass Tech FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 17Boilermaker Regional
Dec 18Chesapeake Regional , Lansing FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 19NASA VCU Regional , Detroit FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 20Philadelphia Regional
Dec 21St. Louis Regional
Dec 22Waterloo Regional
Dec 23Colorado Regional , Connecticut Regional
Dec 24Greater Toronto Regional, Hawaii Regional
Dec 26Las Vegas Regional , West Michigan FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 27Lone Star Regional ,Troy FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 28Microsoft Seattle Regional , Palmetto Regional
Dec 29Sacramento Regional
Dec 30SBPLI Long Island Regional
Dec 31Minnesota 10000 Lakes Regional
Jan 2Minnesota North Star Regional


Michigan FIRST Robotics Competition State Championship draft will occur the weekend before the event.

Koko Ed 07-11-2008 07:55
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Travis Hoffman has withdrawn from the league.


1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5.
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. tim_reiher
22. XaulZan11
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton
25. Barry Bonzack
26. Laaba 80
27. firstbots195
28. Tetraman
29. Indysam
30. Tim Delles
31. rtfgnow
32. 0705920
33. Wannabe
34. qwertyuiop[]\
35. Kristian Calhoun
36. Vikesrock
37. 340x4xLife
38. TeAm270RoCkS
39. lukevanoort

SamC 17-11-2008 19:11
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 774295)
Travis Hoffman has withdrawn from the league.
I'll give it a shot, if that spot is still up for grabs

Koko Ed 17-11-2008 19:29
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Sure you can have Travis' spot.


1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. SamSofa330
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. tim_reiher
22. XaulZan11
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton
25. Barry Bonzack
26. Laaba 80
27. firstbots195
28. Tetraman
29. Indysam
30. Tim Delles
31. rtfgnow
32. 0705920
33. Wannabe
34. qwertyuiop[]\
35. Kristian Calhoun
36. Vikesrock
37. 340x4xLife
38. TeAm270RoCkS
39. lukevanoort

EricH 24-11-2008 01:37
Re: FYI
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 774185)
Dec 1BAE Granite State Regional
This is your one-week warning until the drafts start. Pick lists are highly recommended, and you'll have a long weekend to work on them...

Koko Ed 24-11-2008 04:51
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
tim_reiher has withdrawn.

1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. SamSofa330
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21.
22. XaulZan11
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton
25. Barry Bonzack
26. Laaba 80
27. firstbots195
28. Tetraman
29. Indysam
30. Tim Delles
31. rtfgnow
32. 0705920
33. Wannabe
34. qwertyuiop[]\
35. Kristian Calhoun
36. Vikesrock
37. 340x4xLife
38. TeAm270RoCkS
39. lukevanoort

Arefin Bari 24-11-2008 07:13
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
I guess I will play. :)

Clinton Bolinger 24-11-2008 08:02
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
At what time do the drafts take place?

-Oris-

ATannahill 24-11-2008 09:11
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Can i be bumped up to tim's place?

Koko Ed 24-11-2008 09:16
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oris (Post 777223)
At what time do the drafts take place?

-Oris-
7pm EST on week nights.
5 or 6pm on weekends EST depending on my mood.

Koko Ed 24-11-2008 09:17
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. SamSofa330
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. rtfgnow
22. XaulZan11
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton
25. Barry Bonzack
26. Laaba 80
27. firstbots195
28. Tetraman
29. Indysam
30. Tim Delles
31. Arefin Bari
32. 0705920
33. Wannabe
34. qwertyuiop[]\
35. Kristian Calhoun
36. Vikesrock
37. 340x4xLife
38. TeAm270RoCkS
39. lukevanoort

Clinton Bolinger 24-11-2008 09:26
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. SamSofa330
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. rtfgnow
22. XaulZan11
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton
25. Barry Bonzack
26. Laaba 80
27. firstbots195
28. Tetraman
29. Indysam
30. Tim Delles
31. Arefin Bari
32. 0705920
33. Wannabe
34. qwertyuiop[]\
35. Kristian Calhoun
36. Vikesrock
37. 340x4xLife
38. TeAm270RoCkS
39. lukevanoort
40. Oris

Lets do this.

-Oris-

Koko Ed 24-11-2008 11:28
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
FYI
For those sour grapes who like to say Barry won because he was in the same division with absentee owners I just want to let you know he's already sending me list for his picks. That's the real reason Barry won because he actually bothered to study on what teams would do well for him and submit a list for EACH AND EVERY DRAFT so he'd make sure he got the teams he wanted.
If you want to beat the best it's sometimes best to BE like the best. Send in those lists kiddies. Barry is already one step ahead of you!

JesseK 24-11-2008 11:58
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
I just want to double check -- ideally we will have 47 lists:

Each list has ALL teams from the respective regional
Each list is ordered in the order of team preference

Is that it? I'm still a bit confused on the symantecs of scoring, and I'm really confused on how teams are assigned to players -- e.g. if I get 191 on my fantasy team for a particular regional, does that lock 191 from being used by other players?

Also, what's the desired format of the lists?

EricH 24-11-2008 12:00
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
One thing I noticed last season is that the players who actually a) picked or b) sent in lists did better across the board than those who simply went by the randomizer. The top three over the regionals were especially active participants; probably the top 50% had lists. The bottom 50% or so didn't have lists at all and, for the most part, didn't show up.

EricH 24-11-2008 13:07
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JesseK (Post 777263)
I just want to double check -- ideally we will have 47 lists:

Each list has ALL teams from the respective regional
Each list is ordered in the order of team preference

Is that it? I'm still a bit confused on the symantecs of scoring, and I'm really confused on how teams are assigned to players -- e.g. if I get 191 on my fantasy team for a particular regional, does that lock 191 from being used by other players?

Also, what's the desired format of the lists?
Scoring first: Players will be in tiers based on how many teams there are. If someone in Tier 1 picks team 1114, nobody else in Tier 1 can have them, but someone in Tier 2 can. Trades are allowed, if both players and the commissioner agree.

Lists: As many teams as you want. I usually go to the point that "beyond this, I don't care", but others go all the way. Organize the teams in order of preference; the first team on the list when it's your turn is your pick. Format is up to you, but we do need to be able to read it easily. I use the following:
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH's typical format
Regional Name: xyz, abc, def, ghi, ... last team number

ATannahill 24-11-2008 18:14
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Would there ever be a way for one of your picks to hurt you? i.e. make your score lower than if you had picked no team.

EricH 24-11-2008 18:18
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 777347)
Would there ever be a way for one of your picks to hurt you? i.e. make your score lower than if you had picked no team.
It bit several people last year...

The traditional scoring system goes something like this:

win +2
tie 1
loss -2

[Award scores follow; none are negative]

But, if you don't pick a team, you get one anyway thanks to the randomizer.

Elgin Clock 26-11-2008 15:52
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 777264)
One thing I noticed last season is that the players who actually a) picked or b) sent in lists did better across the board than those who simply went by the randomizer.
Randomizer worked fine for me the first season we did The Championship Event FF.
Thank you randomly assigned team 67 in 2005! :D

Barry Bonzack 26-11-2008 19:03
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Ed, thanks for the huge props. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good, and there is an element of luck to the game, ei: which tier one is in for a certain regional and what the draft order is. Overall, the issue of luck is washed out when picking 44 regionals and everyone has the same chances. The following is a tip from Despair.com
It is to one's advantage to send in a pick list and not rely on the randomizer.


As for the question on how long your list should be:
There are usually about 10 people per tier, depending on the size of the regional. Every person gets 3 robots, so multiply the number of people in a tier by 3 and that's how long your list needs to be. Of course, in order to rank teams the more scouting that is done the better.


Ed, correct me if I am wrong, but we should not be concerned about the order of the list as it stands now, because tiers will be randomized and as will draft orders, right?

Barry Bonzack 27-11-2008 03:28
Re: FYI
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 774185)
Here is the schedule for the 2009 Season Long FF Drafts.
Dec 1BAE Granite State Regional
Dec 2Buckeye Regional , Traverse City FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 3Greater Kansas City Regional
Dec 4Midwest Regional
Dec 5New Jersey Regional
Dec 6Washington DC Regional
Dec 7Boston Regional
Dec 8Finger Lakes Regional , Oregon Regional
Dec 9San Diego Regional , Kettering University FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 10New York City Regional
Dec 11Dallas Regional , Florida Regional
Dec 12Los Angeles Regional
Dec 13Peachtree Regional , Pittsburgh Regional
Dec 14Silicon Valley Regional , Wisconsin Regional
Dec 15Israel Regional , Arizona Regional
Dec 16Bayou Regional , Cass Tech FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 17Boilermaker Regional
Dec 18Chesapeake Regional , Lansing FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 19NASA VCU Regional , Detroit FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 20Philadelphia Regional
Dec 21St. Louis Regional
Dec 22Waterloo Regional
Dec 23Colorado Regional , Connecticut Regional
Dec 24Greater Toronto Regional, Hawaii Regional
Dec 26Las Vegas Regional , West Michigan FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 27Lone Star Regional ,Troy FIRST Robotics District Competition
Dec 28Microsoft Seattle Regional , Palmetto Regional
Dec 29Sacramento Regional
Dec 30SBPLI Long Island Regional
Dec 31Minnesota 10000 Lakes Regional
Jan 2Minnesota North Star Regional


Michigan FIRST Robotics Competition State Championship draft will occur the weekend before the event.
The Oklahoma City regional is a week one regional and not currently on the list.

Also, how do we find the team lists for all of the district competitions? They aren't on the 2009 Event List

Koko Ed 27-11-2008 06:26
Re: FYI
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry Bonzack (Post 777774)
The Oklahoma City regional is a week one regional and not currently on the list.

Also, how do we find the team lists for all of the district competitions? They aren't on the 2009 Event List
http://www.usfirst.org/community/frc...t.aspx?id=9508

Koko Ed 27-11-2008 09:32
Re: FYI
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry Bonzack (Post 777774)
The Oklahoma City regional is a week one regional and not currently on the list.

Also, how do we find the team lists for all of the district competitions? They aren't on the 2009 Event List
Let's add Oklahoma City to December 5th.

jimbot 27-11-2008 11:14
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Sign me up, I'll Give this a shot!
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. SamSofa330
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. rtfgnow
22. XaulZan11
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton
25. Barry Bonzack
26. Laaba 80
27. firstbots195
28. Tetraman
29. Indysam
30. Tim Delles
31. Arefin Bari
32. 0705920
33. Wannabe
34. qwertyuiop[]\
35. Kristian Calhoun
36. Vikesrock
37. 340x4xLife
38. TeAm270RoCkS
39. lukevanoort
40. Oris
41. jimbot

Tottanka 27-11-2008 14:20
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Hey guys,

How long before a draft will we know the tiers and random results?

Koko Ed 27-11-2008 14:24
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tottanka (Post 777828)
Hey guys,

How long before a draft will we know the tiers and random results?
Monday.

Greg Peshek 27-11-2008 15:02
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
I'll join if it's not too much of a hassle or too late now. If the random lists and such have already been generated.. no sweat, but if it's still OK to join.. then I'm in.

-Greg Peshek

Koko Ed 27-11-2008 15:13
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
There is time.
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. SamSofa330
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. rtfgnow
22. XaulZan11
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton
25. Barry Bonzack
26. Laaba 80
27. firstbots195
28. Tetraman
29. Indysam
30. Tim Delles
31. Arefin Bari
32. 0705920
33. Wannabe
34. qwertyuiop[]\
35. Kristian Calhoun
36. Vikesrock
37. 340x4xLife
38. TeAm270RoCkS
39. lukevanoort
40. Oris
41. jimbot
42. Greg Peshek

Nawaid Ladak 27-11-2008 16:46
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Koko, if i can join, i'll jump in

EricH 27-11-2008 16:51
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
1. Koko Ed
2. Tottanka
3. jtdowney
4. Jherbie53
5. SamSofa330
6. rocketperson44
7. EricH
8. NickE
9. hill
10. Dolan
11. acdcfan259
12. JesseK
13. Michelle Celio
14. Elgin Clock
15. JackN
16. Sunbun
17. Alex Cormier
18. Stephi Rae
19.Liz Smith
20. Pat McCarthy
21. rtfgnow
22. XaulZan11
23.xzvrw2
24.Ken Patton
25. Barry Bonzack
26. Laaba 80
27. firstbots195
28. Tetraman
29. Indysam
30. Tim Delles
31. Arefin Bari
32. 0705920
33. Wannabe
34. qwertyuiop[]\
35. Kristian Calhoun
36. Vikesrock
37. 340x4xLife
38. TeAm270RoCkS
39. lukevanoort
40. Oris
41. jimbot
42. Greg Peshek
43. Nawaid Ladak

Koko Ed 30-11-2008 17:01
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
Last day to sign up for the league.

XaulZan11 30-11-2008 18:31
Re: [FF]: 2009 Season Long FF
 
I don't really have enough time to spend on this, and I don't really want to waste others time and just have random teams, so would it be ok if I dropped out?


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