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sdcantrell56 06-08-2008 16:40

pic: Upgraded drivetrain
 

=Martin=Taylor= 06-08-2008 16:46

Re: pic: Upgraded drivetrain
 
Great work.

One question I have is what kind of tread material will you use? The wheels look almost like the ones in the kit. Unless you're using 5" wheels (or some other odd size) I'd say go with the Kit wheels. They have a lot of traction for little weight and cost (heck, you get four of them for free).

Are you going to have any support for the middle of the bumpers? I see how they will be connected at the ends, but what happens if you hit something right in the middle? Won't the wood snap?

I really like where you're going though. Are there plans for a prototype?

CCCP 06-08-2008 18:03

Re: pic: Upgraded drivetrain
 
that looks really cool:yikes: what did the origional version look like

gorrilla 06-08-2008 20:20

Re: pic: Upgraded drivetrain
 
which way did you do the direct drive?

Jeff K. 06-08-2008 22:18

Re: pic: Upgraded drivetrain
 
Nice, another red and black beast.
You can shave more material around the gearboxes.
We had a similar shape this past year and just had the minimal material of what we needed since the top gears were pretty well hidden inside of the robot.
Here is a side view, with two of the standoffs missing. Saved 1/4 lb overall, seems small, but that coupled with 6 lbs, we were able to calculate where we needed to add more weight to make cog right on the center wheels with the ball on the robot.

What program did you render it in?

sdcantrell56 07-08-2008 13:37

Re: pic: Upgraded drivetrain
 
Thanks everyone for the kind words. I'll try to address every question.

The wheels are 4.5" diameter, much smaller than the kit wheels. Also the center wheel is hex keyed which will be much easier than adding a hub to a kit wheel. Each one of these wheels only weighs 0.28lbs which is a lot lighter than kit. Finally the tread will be .75" wide roughtop, with a higher Cof than kit wheels.

There might be support for bumpers in the middle or not. Im not sure. Especially in the front it will probably be left open for a manipulator. If we do add supports it will likely just be delrin standoffs so the added weight will be minimal.

I was trying to build a prototype of this during the summer to test a lot of the ideas and to be a good opportunity to teach new members about design and construction but I dont think we have the money to do that.

Direct drive is accomplished by an extended shaft coming out of the transmission. The center wheel is keyed to this shaft and then the outer wheels are chained off of the center wheel. With this arrangement no matter how many chains we break, we will still have movement. This allows us to run #25 chain with a lot less worry and in turn save a great deal of weight.

This was rendered in autodesk, and as for shaving more off the gearboxes and exposing the gears, I'd rather sacrifice a little bit of weight to cover up the gears than leave them exposed. Also the inner plate of the transmission is delrin so the weight savings would be very minimal.


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