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ttldomination 13-09-2008 15:00

Re: Ftc Kick off 2008
 
I agree with smartkid, how about a little description, or waiting until the game is announced to all of us before you guys start talking about the game on here please.

cheif039 13-09-2008 15:30

Re: Ftc Kick off 2008
 
Clicking the red box at the bottom of the blog reveals the front page of the game manual, with a brief overview. Looks legit but could be a really good imitation.

smartkid 13-09-2008 15:38

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This is either the funniest prank ever or someone's in trouble.

dsmason807 13-09-2008 16:50

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Relax -- it looks legit.

Some regions had events where they were showing the game animation, field, and game pieces today. This is clearly a picture of a flyer from one of those events. I guess they took down the video as a courtesy -- that, or FIRST threatened to taunt them a second time, or some such.

Regardless, FTC doesn't have quite the time constraints that FRC does, so I personally wouldn't get too worked up about this being a prank, nor about some teams getting to see the game early, whether via an event or a leak.

A day or two in FTC just isn't a big deal. I personally have very little faith that things will actually be posted by 5:00pm, so I don't really plan to start downloading and reading until tomorrow morning anyway.

After which I look forward to a rewarding season of higher prices for field and robot parts, less variety of mechanisms, and more questionable maturity of wireless control platforms as compared to last year.

Not that I'm pessimistic. :-)

dsmason807 13-09-2008 17:03

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And yet I stand corrected:

http://www.usfirst.org/community/ftc...nt.aspx?id=962

Enjoy. :-)

ttldomination 14-09-2008 09:59

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Wow, talk about timing, I must say good job to FTC for this one. I logged at 5 PM exactly, and bam, the game was there. :D.

And i enjoyed. :D.

chaoticprout 14-09-2008 12:09

Re: Ftc Kick off 2008
 
Check out the robot requirements in Section 4. Seems like...there are some issues with the file, or something wrong with pdf reader.

ttldomination 14-09-2008 12:30

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Why what's wrong?

chaoticprout 14-09-2008 12:31

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I see this in that section.

Akash Rastogi 14-09-2008 14:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chaoticprout (Post 765444)


I see this in that section.

Anyone have a different version that doesn't do this and wants to post it up? Or post on FIRST forums.

ttldomination 14-09-2008 19:28

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http://www.team.prhsrobotics.com/gal...?g2_itemId=912

I believe that is the missing section. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Michael Coleman 15-09-2008 00:16

Re: Ftc Kick off 2008
 
Are you using an Apple computer? I have the same problem when viewing the document with Apple Preview. This problem does not appear when viewed with Adobe Acrobat on my Apple.

dtengineering 15-09-2008 01:30

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Earlier in this thread there was discussion over the new award for design using the Aluminum and Plexiglas components and the effect that would have on "table top" teams that don't have access to workshops.

Now that we've seen the rules, I have to say that it seems that the restriction on bonding... no welding, glues, or anything from outside the kit... places some limits on how much of an advantage the teams with shop access have. Much of what you can do with these materials under these conditions is not outside the grasp of a patient "table top" team with an eye for detail.... and a lot of time with a hacksaw blade, vise, hand drill and some fine files.

Kudos to the FTC GDC for allowing a little bit of shop work without upsetting the balance too far in favour of the shops.

Jason

wilsonmw04 15-09-2008 10:15

Re: Ftc Kick off 2008
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dtengineering (Post 765525)
Earlier in this thread there was discussion over the new award for design using the Aluminum and Plexiglas components and the effect that would have on "table top" teams that don't have access to workshops.

Now that we've seen the rules, I have to say that it seems that the restriction on bonding... no welding, glues, or anything from outside the kit... places some limits on how much of an advantage the teams with shop access have. Much of what you can do with these materials under these conditions is not outside the grasp of a patient "table top" team with an eye for detail.... and a lot of time with a hacksaw blade, vise, hand drill and some fine files.

Kudos to the FTC GDC for allowing a little bit of shop work without upsetting the balance too far in favour of the shops.

Jason

I agree, the 1/16" max thickness was VERY nice to see. Now I have a question: Is this going to be a permanent addition to the rules or is this just to carry us over until they flesh out the kit for future games?

In general, I am very excited about the unique challenges in the game this year. Robustness is going to be a much bigger factor than it has in previous years.

Akash Rastogi 15-09-2008 14:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wilsonmw04 (Post 765564)
I agree, the 1/16" max thickness was VERY nice to see. Now I have a question: Is this going to be a permanent addition to the rules or is this just to carry us over until they flesh out the kit for future games?

In general, I am very excited about the unique challenges in the game this year. Robustness is going to be a much bigger factor than it has in previous years.

I guess they'll wait for some feedback from this season. I'm hoping they keep the addition.


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