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kamocat 09-21-2008 08:05 PM

Re: an unusual observation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dlavery (Post 766508)
There has been a pattern? Awww, crap. Now we have to start the design all over again....

The patterns would be a little easier if they actually gave information on years before 2002. Heck, I'd really like them to create videos for every year's FRC competition, but I know they don't have the time. And besides that, I think they were origionally something more like an actually assembly line, but they found people were more exited about the sports aspect of it.

At any rate, the field stays about the same size, the robots need about the same maneuverability, and have the same constraints. One of my main questions is: Will there be a robocoach this year? (I'm hoping there won't)

ATannahill 09-21-2008 08:15 PM

Re: an unusual observation
 
I doubt there will.

Also if you look closer at Dave's post it indicates that there is no ball this year.

Michelle Celio 09-21-2008 08:15 PM

Re: an unusual observation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Althewierd (Post 766417)
Though, I do hope the pattern stays true. :)

Pattern?

1992 - Circle - Balls
1993 - Circle - Balls
1994 - Circle - Balls
1995 - Circle - Balls
1996 - Circle - Balls
1997 - Circle - Tubes
1998 - Circle - Balls
1999 - Circle - Floppies
2000 - Circle - Balls
2001 - Circle - Balls
2002 - Circle - Balls
2003 - Square - Bins
2004 - Circle - Balls
2005 - Triangle - Tetras
2006 - Circle - Balls
2007 - Circle - Tubes
2008 - Circle - Balls

Quote:

Originally Posted by kamocat (Post 766513)
The patterns would be a little easier if they actually gave information on years before 2002. Heck, I'd really like them to create videos for every year's FRC competition, but I know they don't have the time. And besides that, I think they were origionally something more like an actually assembly line, but they found people were more exited about the sports aspect of it.


There is FIRST wiki, and normal wikipeida both have information on the games. Not videos, but still information. Also, FRC 45 has information from 1992.

Althewierd 09-21-2008 09:03 PM

Re: an unusual observation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michelle Celio (Post 766516)
Pattern?

1992 - Circle - Balls
1993 - Circle - Balls
1994 - Circle - Balls
1995 - Circle - Balls
1996 - Circle - Balls
1997 - Circle - Tubes
1998 - Circle - Balls
1999 - Circle - Floppies
2000 - Circle - Balls
2001 - Circle - Balls
2002 - Circle - Balls
2003 - Square - Bins
2004 - Circle - Balls
2005 - Triangle - Tetras
2006 - Circle - Balls
2007 - Circle - Tubes
2008 - Circle - Balls




There is FIRST wiki, and normal wikipeida both have information on the games. Not videos, but still information. Also, FRC 45 has information from 1992.

I was referencing the more recent pattern...ball...other...ball...other...and so on. I think we should have a non-ball game this year, but simple logic says it could go either way.

IKE 09-21-2008 09:18 PM

Re: an unusual observation
 
by the above analysis, does a cone get classified as a trianlge or a cirlce?

EricH 09-21-2008 09:20 PM

Re: an unusual observation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IKE (Post 766522)
by the above analysis, does a cone get classified as a trianlge or a cirlce?

It's triangle, circle, square from the side, top, bottom, respectively.

kamocat 09-21-2008 11:27 PM

Re: an unusual observation
 
Perhaps they'll use hemispheres.
I'm starting to wonder who actually manufactures their gamepeices.

IKE 09-22-2008 07:00 AM

Re: an unusual observation
 
I actually figured this years game would look a lot like what the VEX game ended up being with several sizes of boxes.

Daniel_LaFleur 09-22-2008 12:15 PM

Re: an unusual observation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 766524)
It's triangle, circle, square from the side, top, bottom, respectively.

While I'd doubt they'd choose the traffic cone as an object ... it would be cool.:cool:

And since Dave has decided to post here, I guess it's now officially red herring season :eek:

Let the speculation begin

kamocat 09-22-2008 10:51 PM

Re: an unusual observation
 
Now that you mention it, a fish-shaped object would be fun. How about a modification of that game where you have a wooden fish on a stick and have to flip in and guide it through the hole in the stick? To make the robot less jerky, the floor could be made of moving sidewalks (or rather, moving carpets)

EDIT:
as far as boxes go, having to build a staircase might be fun. Heck, we could use a giant slinky as a main gamepiece!

I'm sure this coming year's competition will be quite different from the last, but I'm not sure how they can make it wildly different from the previous years. Unless they put a lazy suzan type table in the center. Ahah! We could shoot balls at targets along the perimeter. Considering they're playing with floor textures in FTC, we might have some slippery spots (and maybe even a hill we have to pass over where it won't work if we don't have enough momentum). Centrifugal force would certainly be fun, but I suppose we can't play with magnets too much if we plan to bring laptops (the cRIO flash memory would be fine as long as the magnets did not induce excessive voltage, which would be fairly unlikely. The only thing we'd have to worry about is eddy currents from all the aluminum in the robots.

Any more ideas for water games? (Let's aim to make Chief Delphi a respected place for finding competition ideas)

lasereyes 09-22-2008 11:22 PM

Re: an unusual observation
 
Wooden fish, wouldn't it be better to have live fish? (water game!)

JaneYoung 09-22-2008 11:24 PM

Re: an unusual observation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kamocat (Post 766706)
(Let's aim to make Chief Delphi a respected place for finding competition ideas)

Have you ever checked out the FRC Game Design forum here in ChiefDelphi?

This is one of the threads.

IKE 09-23-2008 09:10 AM

Re: an unusual observation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kamocat (Post 766706)
Any more ideas for water games? (Let's aim to make Chief Delphi a respected place for finding competition ideas)

I can't believe that these two phrases can be put together.:p

Very nice.

JesseK 09-23-2008 10:48 AM

Re: an unusual observation
 
Quote:

While I'd doubt they'd choose the traffic cone as an object ... it would be cool.:cool:
I disagree -- cones are relatively cheap, lightweight, can take a beating, and are usually nice and bright so they can be incorporated into vision recognition. Plus they come in many sizes, and there are even very small sports cones that mark off a soccer or frisbee field. I think they would be pretty difficult to pick up too because some of them are fairly squishy.

What if the game was like Driver's Ed, where the bots could parallel park, change lanes, etc...think of the possibilities that could mimic learning how to drive on the road!

EricH 09-23-2008 11:48 AM

Re: an unusual observation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JesseK (Post 766756)
I disagree -- cones are relatively cheap, lightweight, can take a beating, and are usually nice and bright so they can be incorporated into vision recognition. Plus they come in many sizes, and there are even very small sports cones that mark off a soccer or frisbee field. I think they would be pretty difficult to pick up too because some of them are fairly squishy.

Better (or worse) still, there are different shapes. There are the traditional cones, the pillars, the road barrels (2+ sizes), the flat soccer cones, collapsing cones (which would be really hard to handle due to being super squishy)...


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