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fbaldi25 09-10-2008 23:09

[FTC]: FTC Ramp Question
 
Ok so I have to say I'm a cheif delphi virgin :o and my team had some questions.
We were wondering if at the end of the round do you have to be on your own ramp or can you be on you opponents ramp to get the extra 10 points?

ATannahill 10-10-2008 05:45

Re: [FTC]: FTC Ramp Question
 
As I understand it, you can be on either ramp, I was very glad to see this added.

Monty Python 10-10-2008 16:00

Re: [FTC]: FTC Ramp Question
 
As I understand it, you simply have to be off the field. For the purpose of the game this year, the wall is considered off the field. So if you pick yourself up using the wall then you get the points (if you choose to use this strategy then you may want to have the relevant parts of the rulebook ready in case you have to argue with the referees). I'm not sure if this means that you can simply vault the wall and get the points this way. I'm pretty sure if you vault the wall you would not be allowed to get/put your robot back in play.

gblake 10-10-2008 19:45

Re: [FTC]: FTC Ramp Question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Monty Python (Post 769667)
As I understand it, you simply have to be off the field. For the purpose of the game this year, the wall is considered off the field. So if you pick yourself up using the wall then you get the points (if you choose to use this strategy then you may want to have the relevant parts of the rulebook ready in case you have to argue with the referees). I'm not sure if this means that you can simply vault the wall and get the points this way. I'm pretty sure if you vault the wall you would not be allowed to get/put your robot back in play.

Careful, Careful - This sort of topic makes me want so say "Use the official Q&A forum!" very loudly. Robot parts intentionally leaving the playing field (if you hook onto the wall to get off the foam) is generally a bad thing....

I recommend you ask for and get an official answer to any questions you may have, or if you want to try an exotic strategy that gets into any gray zones (like hooking onto a wall).

Blake

GaryVoshol 10-10-2008 20:37

Re: [FTC]: FTC Ramp Question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Monty Python (Post 769667)
As I understand it, you simply have to be off the field. For the purpose of the game this year, the wall is considered off the field. So if you pick yourself up using the wall then you get the points.

I concur. From section 2.3 Definitions: "Field – The part of the playing surface that is composed of the SoftTiles (mat), the 4 rough or slippery terrain areas, and the Scoring Area. For the 2008 game, the definition of the field does NOT include the walls." And: "Off the Field – A robot is considered “off the field” if there are no parts of it that are touching the field. The field walls, starting platform outside the field, and the ramp can be considered “off the field”. The Scoring Area is considered to be on the field."

Quote:

I'm not sure if this means that you can simply vault the wall and get the points this way. I'm pretty sure if you vault the wall you would not be allowed to get/put your robot back in play.
That works. Section 2.4.3: "<S2> If a robot goes completely out-of-bounds (outside the playing field), it will be disabled for the remainder of the match. But it will be eligible for the 10 points described in 2.4.1."

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Originally Posted by gblake (Post 769690)
Careful, Careful - This sort of topic makes me want so say "Use the official Q&A forum!" very loudly.

Normally yes, but that forum has been shut down due to porn spam. Or you could just read the rules ...

ttldomination 14-10-2008 16:13

Re: [FTC]: FTC Ramp Question
 
Being out of the field is not a bad thing, in either instance. Of course you will be disabled, but imagine, if there's ten seconds left, you jump off the field after climbing onto a ramp. You are disabled, but that allows for your partner team to jump on the ramp. And both robots qualify for the 10 points.

My question is that can a team be disqualified after a number of disables? Kinda like the 3 strikes ur out rule?


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