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vivek16 13-10-2008 20:42

multi tool with removable knife
 
Hi all,

I'm looking for a multi tool with a removable knife blade in it. I want to have a multi tool at school without a knife but still have a knife out of school. Does anyone know where I could find one?

thanks, Vivek

IKE 14-10-2008 07:31

Re: multi tool with removable knife
 
I am an avid collector.

Case made a couple knifes with changeable blades (saw, serated, mini-axe).

Victornox makes a Swiss Army knife with a removable USB drive.

I have never seen a multi, that had a knife that was removeable.

Overall it sounds like a good idea. I checked the usual suspects:
Victornox, Wenger, Leatherman, Gerber...

The best I could come up with is the Credit Card set that has a removeable blade.

What features in a multi-tool do you need at school? Also if you really need a multi-tool at school, cut the blade off. There are plenty of reasonable priced multi's out there.

mrbob1000 14-10-2008 07:34

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You can always take an old multi tool and remove the blade (take out the screw holding the tools in the multi tool, remove the blade, add a washer so it still has tension so the tools dont just flip out of it.) do this only if you have an extra multi tool (cheap one?) and then if you want to go back then you can reverse the process.

vivek16 14-10-2008 15:41

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That sounds like a good idea stephen. I work on the robot at school sometimes and it is nice to have a multi tool with me. I suppose I could get a good multi, take out the blades and get a good knife since most multi's have mediocre blades anyways.

thanks, Vivek

Bob Steele 14-10-2008 15:48

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You might want to try this:

Leatherman Fuse Without Knife Blade
Leather Sheath

Fuse features an all-tool locking system that is 50% stronger than our original locks. And one-at-a-time tool selection gets you just the tool you want. With a slim chassis and an assortment of the most-needed tools, Fuse puts portability at the forefront of your need to be prepared. Does Not Include Knife Blade


This is a multi-tool without a blade. You could just purchase a separate locking knife if you wanted that too. This is designed to be carried where blades are prohibited although I am still not sure whether this would pass muster getting on a plane.

http://www.leathermanstore.com/leatherman57.html

Hope this helps

MrForbes 14-10-2008 16:00

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definitely won't get on a plane with those miniature scissors...the blades are 3 times as long as those highly dangerous, illegal fingernail clippers.

vivek16 14-10-2008 16:34

Re: multi tool with removable knife
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Steele (Post 770242)
You might want to try this:

Leatherman Fuse Without Knife Blade
Leather Sheath

Fuse features an all-tool locking system that is 50% stronger than our original locks. And one-at-a-time tool selection gets you just the tool you want. With a slim chassis and an assortment of the most-needed tools, Fuse puts portability at the forefront of your need to be prepared. Does Not Include Knife Blade


This is a multi-tool without a blade. You could just purchase a separate locking knife if you wanted that too. This is designed to be carried where blades are prohibited although I am still not sure whether this would pass muster getting on a plane.

http://www.leathermanstore.com/leatherman57.html

Hope this helps

I actually looked at the fuse but it doesn't have a bit driver :( That's one of the main things I'm looking for in a multi-tool. The add on is too chunky for my liking.

-Vivek

Bob Steele 14-10-2008 17:23

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Interesting guidance from the airlines.... the first no or yes is for onboard
the second refers to inside checked baggage.

Sharp Objects
Item Carry-on Checked
Box Cutters No Yes
Ice Axes/Ice Picks No Yes
Knives - except for plastic or round bladed butter knives No Yes
Meat Cleavers No Yes
Razor-Type Blades - such as box cutters, utility knives, razor blades not in a cartridge, but excluding safety razors. No Yes
Sabers No Yes
Scissors - metal with pointed tips and blades shorter than four inches Yes Yes
Swords No Yes
.


I am really relieved that passengers are not allowed to bring meat cleavers or swords onboard. Although I love to travel with my Ice Axe... bummer

mrbob1000 14-10-2008 18:32

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http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=50446

found another thread on the topic


and if you want to spend 10 dollars and get wire strippers with it!

http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/tools/38b0/

Features:

* Precision Pliers with Posi-Grip Jaws
* Phillips Screwdriver
* Flat Screwdriver
* Micro Phillips Screwdriver
* Micro Flat Screwdriver
* Wire cutter
* Wire stripper
* Sheet Shear

honestly because i am an electrical guy, i like having wire strippers but the tool looks small.

http://www.makershed.com/ProductDeta...uctCode=MKBDE4

looks nice, but the name "bomb diffuser" sounds a bit bad for school.

vivek16 14-10-2008 18:32

Re: multi tool with removable knife
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Steele (Post 770261)
Interesting guidance from the airlines.... the first no or yes is for onboard
the second refers to inside checked baggage.

Sharp Objects
Item Carry-on Checked
Box Cutters No Yes
Ice Axes/Ice Picks No Yes
Knives - except for plastic or round bladed butter knives No Yes
Meat Cleavers No Yes
Razor-Type Blades - such as box cutters, utility knives, razor blades not in a cartridge, but excluding safety razors. No Yes
Sabers No Yes
Scissors - metal with pointed tips and blades shorter than four inches Yes Yes
Swords No Yes
.


I am really relieved that passengers are not allowed to bring meat cleavers or swords onboard. Although I love to travel with my Ice Axe... bummer

That is so weird, most knives I'm looking at are around 3 inches long. What's up with that?

Mike AA 15-10-2008 01:17

Re: multi tool with removable knife
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbob1000 (Post 770285)


and if you want to spend 10 dollars and get wire strippers with it!

http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/tools/38b0/

Features:

* Precision Pliers with Posi-Grip Jaws
* Phillips Screwdriver
* Flat Screwdriver
* Micro Phillips Screwdriver
* Micro Flat Screwdriver
* Wire cutter
* Wire stripper
* Sheet Shear

honestly because i am an electrical guy, i like having wire strippers but the tool looks small.

http://www.makershed.com/ProductDeta...uctCode=MKBDE4

looks nice, but the name "bomb diffuser" sounds a bit bad for school.


I think I found another item for my robotics/Christmas wish list.

-Mike

Bob Steele 15-10-2008 19:28

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Here's what you need.

http://www.geekologie.com/2006/08/we...e_super_ul.php

It even has a chain tool...

This is amazing.... but it might be a tad large... lol

R

mrbob1000 15-10-2008 20:37

Re: multi tool with removable knife
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Steele (Post 770486)
Here's what you need.

http://www.geekologie.com/2006/08/we...e_super_ul.php

It even has a chain tool...

This is amazing.... but it might be a tad large... lol

R

I MUST HAVE ONE!

im currently making myself a school friendly (even though it will never go to school) multi tool. i removed all the tools but the pliers from the frame and i will replace the rivets with screws (just as soon as i find some) it was one i got as a free gift from a mall or something.

vivek16 15-10-2008 21:49

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I'm thinking about the leatherman charge al, I guess I'm ok with not taking it to school after all. I can always get a cheap pocket size one for school or something.

I totally want a chain tool in a multi tool!

-Vivek

mrbob1000 16-10-2008 08:33

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make shure the chan tool can work with your type of chain. i havent tested using some #35 chain in my nice bike tool (i love that tool!) in fear of breaking it. (the tool, not the chain) bike chain is just a little different from #35 chain but its noticeable)

vivek16 16-10-2008 11:11

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Weird, I was under the impression that most chain tools were fairly versatile? I know ours will work for fairly decent range and has no problem with either bike or 35 chain.

-Vivek

mrbob1000 16-10-2008 15:50

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._ANNOTATED.JPG

that kind doesnt work and its the kind on my bike multi tool.

vivek16 16-10-2008 16:02

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Oh, ok, we have one that clamps the chain from the sides of the pin not like that. yeah, that is a lot more compact and I can see why it might get messed up.

-Vivek

tdlrali 16-10-2008 18:42

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If you do end up getting a tool with a knife, ask the main office about it before you alter it in any way. Take it to the office and tell them why you need to have the tool at school. Also, explain that you'll keep it in your locker/backpack during school hours.

When I got my Leatherman, I took it to the office, and they said it was fine.

Good luck!

vivek16 16-10-2008 19:34

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Oh, you don't understand our school district. In a nearby school district, they found a box cutter in a kid's trunk and almost had him expelled even though he uses it for work. I'm surprised they allow scissors. I guess I can understand but it does seem excessive at times. :(

I'm not planning on taking it to school anyways, we usually work at our sponsor's warehouse.

-Vivek

vivek16 17-10-2008 13:35

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I am now undecided between the leatherman charge TTI and the gerber suspension. What do you think?

http://leatherman.com/multi-tools/fu...harge-tti.aspx
http://www.gerber-tools.com/Gerber-S...Plier-1471.htm

thanks, Vivek

Bob Steele 17-10-2008 15:10

Re: multi tool with removable knife
 
I have used a Charge TTi for about 4+ years. It has been through 9 regionals and 4 CMPs with me...along with uncountable hours in the shop and at home... The blade is very sharp and very good steel better than any other knife I have. (154CM)

It is really nice that you can open the blades without opening the tool
I have used the huge variety of bits on many occasions.

I would recommend that you purchase the bit driver extender

http://store.leatherman.com/shop/shop.aspx?category=37

... this fits into the bit slot and allows the use of regular 1/4" bits of any sort... or even a nut driver with a quarter inch base. You could probably even use it with some type of quarter inch adapter for sockets.

I also use a leatherman case

http://store.leatherman.com/shop/shop.aspx?category=36

The premium nylon one... It has 3 tool slots and the bit extender and a group of 1/4 bits fit in to two of them and a mini-mag lite fits in the other.
All in one kit...

The Charge is a lot of tool... fairly heavy compared to the Gerber.
The Gerber is nice though... and certainly less expensive.
I have used probably 8-10 different multitools and the Charge is the most versatile and useful I have come across.

I have the Charge TTi... but the newer Charge ALX and AL certainly look nice.
Same features...pretty much...

The only thing I don't like about the TTi is the crimper cut into the pliers.. It makes the plier jaws pretty small. But I have never really had any problems

My suggestion is for you to go out and hold these in your hand and see what you think is better. Talk to some other people that use them and see what they think.

Leatherman has been around for a long time... I even have one of their original tools.... They have learned alot...

good luck!!

R

vivek16 17-10-2008 18:38

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the Charge AL has scissors while the ALX has a cutting hook instead of the scissors.

Are the scissors in a multi tool really that handy? They are fairly small. The cutting hook looks awesome but cutting fabric or quickly snipping zipties in an area that is very cramped.

thanks, Vivek

Bob Steele 17-10-2008 19:41

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I have used the cutting hook for cutting zip ties many times.
I would opt for the hook before the scissors.
R

vivek16 17-10-2008 19:45

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That's what I was thinking too. I'm probably going to go with the ALX, I'll take your advice about going to a knife store and holding both in my hand though.

thanks, Vivek

mrbob1000 17-10-2008 19:47

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my school has a double standard. you cant have knives, but in tech ed classes you can have box cutters where the blades wont retract.

schools need one standard and they need to stick with it.

vivek16 17-10-2008 20:01

Re: multi tool with removable knife
 
stephen, our school has box cutters in Tech and engineering classes too. I was puzzled by this but I guess the teacher keeps track of them.

-Vivek


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