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Al Skierkiewicz 14-10-2008 16:00

Re: I'm back with some advice
 
Guys,
This is a standard warning for teams who are trying to get an early start. I remind teams of this every year. The KOP is not finalized yet so the exact motors and other hardware is not fixed in stone. Not even I know what might be in the kit for the electrical side, including which battery we might be getting. Make general plans but don't set your design. Can you imagine a team that dedicates itself to casters only to find a game that has a series of ramps announced in January. Remember, it was not too long ago that teams could choose a size/weight class.

billbo911 14-10-2008 16:52

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The only thing we can glean from Bill's post that we didn't know before is..........








(Hear the crickets?)

Gdeaver 14-10-2008 17:15

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For the most part we have been flat landers the past few years. How would your current frame design do with a 3 D playing field? Ramps steps and all that challenging stuff. I would love to see them bring in 30 tons of bolders, road balast and sand for the playing surface. ( never happen ) Also, for the teams that have gone with and built off of the IFI kit frame, It appears IFI is out of the supply chain. If a kit frame is included it's bound to be different.
The 6 wheel low rider frames have become the standard. Would be nice to have a playing field that would put them at a disadvantage to shake things up.

RoboMom 14-10-2008 17:28

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Originally Posted by Gdeaver (Post 770259)
. I would love to see them bring in 30 tons of bolders, road balast and sand for the playing surface.

Sounds like fun, but only if you agree to recruit a few hundred friends for the set-up and strike duty for the regionals...;)

Alivia 14-10-2008 17:29

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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 770229)
:rolleyes:Of course, I'm certain team 71 is already done with their prototyping for about 200 different ideas, and the most recent would have been the game-figuring-out robot. Not sure if the prototype works.../:rolleyes:

I'm going back to Hammond for my college fall break this weekend, so maybe I'll need to have a reunion with my buddies from 71 to see what they know...:D

(Ridiculously Off-Topic Sidenote: Seriously though. I am sooo psyched to go back to Hammond this weekend!)

Daniel_LaFleur 14-10-2008 18:01

Re: I'm back with some advice
 
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Originally Posted by Al Skierkiewicz (Post 770244)
Guys,
This is a standard warning for teams who are trying to get an early start. I remind teams of this every year. The KOP is not finalized yet so the exact motors and other hardware is not fixed in stone. Not even I know what might be in the kit for the electrical side, including which battery we might be getting. Make general plans but don't set your design. Can you imagine a team that dedicates itself to casters only to find a game that has a series of ramps announced in January. Remember, it was not too long ago that teams could choose a size/weight class.

Here's hoping to something wild and different this year.

bigbeezy 14-10-2008 18:05

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i was just talking to one of the guys on the team the other night that the field could be sand:eek:

i would think sand would be more likely than water, although still probabilly not going to happen.

maybe multi surface field, carpet with sandpit in the middle???:rolleyes:

many teams recently have gone with less than 1" ground clearance. i would be nice to see the game force these teams to redesign their frames.

EricH 14-10-2008 18:11

Re: I'm back with some advice
 
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Originally Posted by bigbeezy (Post 770275)
i was just talking to one of the guys on the team the other night that the field could be sand:eek:

i would think sand would be more likely than water, although still probabilly not going to happen.

maybe multi surface field, carpet with sandpit in the middle???:rolleyes:

many teams recently have gone with less than 1" ground clearance. i would be nice to see the game force these teams to redesign their frames.

Too many teams would have an advantage if it was sand. All the coastal teams would have ready-made testing grounds, with tougher conditions than an FRC field, and the inland teams would have to find sand and put it in a testing area.

Oh, and a lot of the coastal teams are already doing well. (Yes, I'm counting the teams around the Great Lakes as coastal.)

Now corn, on the other hand...

AdamHeard 14-10-2008 18:15

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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 770278)
Too many teams would have an advantage if it was sand. All the coastal teams would have ready-made testing grounds, with tougher conditions than an FRC field, and the inland teams would have to find sand and put it in a testing area.

Oh, and a lot of the coastal teams are already doing well. (Yes, I'm counting the teams around the Great Lakes as coastal.)

Now corn, on the other hand...

Corn.... Like Indianna, Ohio, Michigan and other states I can't think of with lots of corn need the advantage?

dlavery 14-10-2008 18:24

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Originally Posted by Daniel_LaFleur (Post 770274)
Here's hoping to something wild and different this year.

As Grandma Lavery used to say... "be careful what you wish for."



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EricH 14-10-2008 18:27

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Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 770280)
Corn.... Like Indianna, Ohio, Michigan and other states I can't think of with lots of corn need the advantage?

No, it's more "Like the original teams need the advantage".:rolleyes:

The reason I suggested corn is the original game (Maize Craze) was played on a corn-covered field.

Daniel_LaFleur 14-10-2008 18:34

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Originally Posted by dlavery (Post 770282)
As Grandma Lavery used to say... "be careful what you wish for."



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Every once in a while it's good to have all the paradigms shaken up.

So I'm looking forward to seeing what the GDC throws at us :D

JaneYoung 14-10-2008 18:35

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Originally Posted by Daniel_LaFleur (Post 770287)
So I'm looking forward to seeing what the GDC throws at us :D

Daniel,
Have you ever been hit by a red herring? I have 4 letters for you: d u c k !

Cory 14-10-2008 18:36

Re: I'm back with some advice
 
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Originally Posted by Daniel_LaFleur (Post 770274)
Here's hoping to something wild and different this year.

I hope we get something nice and simple but still exciting. I would be very disappointed if we saw a major leap into the unknown in terms of game design during the same year in which we all have to adapt to a new control system.

Daniel_LaFleur 14-10-2008 18:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JaneYoung (Post 770289)
Daniel,
Have you ever been hit by a red herring? I have 4 letters for you: d u c k !

Not yet ... but I expect to, soon, now that I've taunted the game gods :eek:

Oh, and which is it ... a herring or a duck ;)


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