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mtaman02

10-03-2009 19:21

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I forgot you were on here lol :P

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Originally Posted by Jeremytice (Post 834360)

Alright so some key notes after our scorekeeper follow-up call this week.

-To eliminate your robot from moving or twitching....when you plug in your DS make sure that the switch is on Teleop mode, not auto mode. (Peter talked about this in an earlier post)

-Do not plug in your DS until you are told by FTA, one of their assistance, or the announcer

-Robots really should be turned on after the DS is linked to the field, this will prevent any movement from the robot

-We also had trouble with the pit display, when there was a tie it didn't sync up correctly. They are looking into that.

Here are basically the key notes or at least the most important that they told us about. If you have questions about anything else feel free to post and I will look into them along with others. Week 3 regionals should be very smooth!

Jeremytice

10-03-2009 20:48

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Originally Posted by mtaman02 (Post 834368)

I forgot you were on here lol :P

Haha yupp!!! Good Luck with the rest of your regionals! :D

Hiteak

11-03-2009 02:31

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Now that I've had a few days of rest and back into a new quarter at RIT I can finally give my congrats.

Major Congrats to all the teams who make FLR really feel like home. Seeing everyone there really felt like a family reunion as always. It was quite different being on the other side of things with volunteering this year. I was able to hear some really amazing stories from different teams.

Congrats to all the rookies that went though their first FIRST competition (especially 2999. It was a great season mentoring you guys!). All of you did great out there and I was very impressed with the double rookie alliance.

Thank you to all the judges for helping out. It was really great meeting and being able to work with you all as the Judges Assistant.

Dont know if I could thank everyone that I could possibly think of, but congrats to all the teams, and the rest of the volunteers. It was truly an amazing regional.

computerboi1503

11-03-2009 09:14

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One other thing,

When the match ended, our robot returned to the "No Comm" state, and did not shut off again.

Still confused, but I guess unless more information comes available I guess we've beat this topic to death.

-Nick

matt.clark191

11-03-2009 12:12

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Originally Posted by AndrewMorrison (Post 834303)

Towards Finals, we were told to turn the robot on the instant it hit the field.
That meant that if our student who was plugging in the controls wasn't quick to do so, the robot could have been turned on before the controls were plugged in.
It could have very easily been a problem for some teams.
Thankfully, this did not effect us, but could have effected our partners...

We were not allowed to plug our driver stations in until a volunteer told us to do so. At this point the robots were already on the field and turned on in most cases.

Jeremytice

11-03-2009 14:37

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Originally Posted by matt.clark191 (Post 834694)

We were not allowed to plug our driver stations in until a volunteer told us to do so. At this point the robots were already on the field and turned on in most cases.

That's correct. It has nothing really to do with connecting to the field. It's ok that you do this the only problem it creates is that the Robot may twitch or move! At the end we allowed teams to put their moon rocks in their robot before they powered up. In week 3 regionals they may not allow you to turn on your robots until the DS is connected to the field. This is just a safety issue i'm guessing if they do that during week3 regionals.

mtaman02

11-03-2009 14:44

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Hmmm, ok Jeremy beat me to it...

Slaps Jeremy :P

Everything is trial and error and from what Jeremy said in his second to last post and this last post it appears procedures have changed again for week 3 so keep your ears and eyes open to volunteer instructions. Procedures are changing quickly.

pitzoid

11-03-2009 15:03

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Originally Posted by Jeremytice (Post 834750)

In week 3 regionals they will probably not allow you to turn on your robots until the DS is connected to the field.

Just a note about FMS communication and robot actions:

You know when the field is aligned for your robot/team when you see your team number on the team sign. Your robot will not be able to sync before this as your bot radio SSID will not be registered in the Field Access Point.

ANYTIME your DS hears an FMS message directed towards it, it will shift into FMS/competition mode, doesn't matter if its link with the bot etc... DS will stay in FMS/competition mode until it is power cycled. If the DS does not shift into FMS mode when connected to the field its one of two things, either its a manufunctioning DS or you are plugged into the wrong team station.

cRio will be disabled till it first talks with DS. NI reps will have to verify if teams can actually override this with errant code, but I know of no way that that can happen.

Jeremytice

11-03-2009 15:30

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Originally Posted by pitzoid (Post 834761)

Thanks for clarifying that up Bob. There was a lot of talk about it in the follow-up call this past Monday with Matt and I must have missed that little part about it.

dmoody92

11-03-2009 17:27

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Originally Posted by Kricu (Post 833549)

I'm not going to lie you guys were a great alliance. You definitely deserved to win it all. I did cry a little bit when 174 changed their autonomous so it turned in the beginning so we couldn't pin them from the start. I'm glad we taught you not to get stuck in the corners and to make sure you didn't get pinned during the autonomous so I could score 15+ shots on 174. Anyways nice job winning it.

Thank you as well, 2053 for being a great alliance partner. We were definitely against it when we started the playoffs and I'm sure you guys weren't too thrilled by being partnered with two rookies but we should the type meddle we had in that first match. I don't think I've been that excited in my life, the prospect of knocking off the number one seed with a 2/3s rookies alliance was insane. Thanks again FLR, it was amazing!!

Steve W

11-03-2009 23:39

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I saw a couple of pictures with Team 188's student and mentor receiving awards. I can't find them now. Does anyone know were I saw them?

Justin Montois

11-03-2009 23:46

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Originally Posted by Steve W (Post 834952)

I saw a couple of pictures with Team 188's student and mentor receiving awards. I can't find them now. Does anyone know were I saw them?

Lots of pics here... http://huthphoto.smugmug.com/gallery...87369125_WViob

Not sure if that's what you saw though :)

I hope it helps!

Nick Lawrence

12-03-2009 00:04

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Does anybody have any really good pictures of 1503 at FLR on the field? Our cameramen could not get close enough to the field to get many clear shots of both the robot in action and the drivers. Just wondering :P

-Nick

Moonangel1616

12-03-2009 08:25

Finger lakes regional

My team didn't get into finals at the finger lakes regional but I had a lot of fun. we place 21 out of 50 teams which is better than last year.

Jeremytice

12-03-2009 15:39

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Here's a link to the original thread.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=69655

Steve W

12-03-2009 22:29

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Originally Posted by 340x4xLife (Post 834954)

Lots of pics here... http://huthphoto.smugmug.com/gallery...87369125_WViob

Not sure if that's what you saw though :)

I hope it helps!

They are the exact pics I was looking for, THANKS!!!!

Josh Goodman

12-03-2009 22:38

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Most of the matches are up now on TBA. Greg said they would all be up by the end of the night. Sorry it took so long guys.

Justin Montois

13-03-2009 01:09

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Originally Posted by Josh Goodman (Post 835320)

Most of the matches are up now on TBA. Greg said they would all be up by the end of the night. Sorry it took so long guys.

I appreciate you getting them up. But i just want to let you know that several of the matches freeze up significantly, sometimes for a minute or more. I don't know if it was a product of the upload or something else. Just wanted to let you know. Thanks again for getting them up though.

Tetraman

13-03-2009 01:42

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Originally Posted by Josh Goodman (Post 835320)

Most of the matches are up now on TBA. Greg said they would all be up by the end of the night. Sorry it took so long guys.

Thanks a ton!

I'm glad the camera was on 188 and Tigertronics for QF1-1 so we can watch that incredible upset.

Josh Goodman

13-03-2009 07:34

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Originally Posted by 340x4xLife (Post 835374)

I'll investigate.

mtaman02

13-03-2009 07:37

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I too had problems w/ the A/V feed Download. Apparently one Capture device sped both Audio and Video up completely while the second Capture device slowed down. The slowed down version came out better though so I guess it was ok.

Nick Lawrence

13-03-2009 09:46

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Thanks for posting this. We will use it to analyze how we went about playing Lunacy and use it for practice before GTR!

Jeremytice

14-03-2009 01:17

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Thank's Josh for posting the match videos on TBA! Good luck to 1511 as you guys attend the Chesapeake Regional! We will be cheering you guys on!

Josh Goodman

14-03-2009 11:12

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Originally Posted by Jeremytice (Post 835714)

Thank's Josh for posting the match videos on TBA! Good luck to 1511 as you guys attend the Chesapeake Regional! We will be cheering you guys on!

No problem and thanks! I already have TBA set to send me match information on 1126 in GTR. Good luck to you guys as well!

Doc Wu

15-03-2009 16:18

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Originally Posted by Nick Lawrence (Post 834963)

We posted several hundred photos in our gallery at http://www.warlocks1507.com/2009/Gal...ollection&id=5 we had two photographers, so there's twice the chance of having what you want.

I know I got some photos of the awards presentation (for Steve W)

Steve W

15-03-2009 16:54

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Originally Posted by Doc Wu (Post 836245)

I know I got some photos of the awards presentation (for Steve W)

Thanks for the pics, they are great.

purduephotog

15-03-2009 22:23

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Originally Posted by Nick Lawrence (Post 834963)

Yes, sort of-

http://www.ComePhotograph.Us/First/2...0-_MG_9505.jpg

I'm sorry that's all I can offer up- the other is out of focus.

Josh Goodman

16-03-2009 09:27

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I apologize for the delay. The stalling video was a compression problem. I will start fixing it sometime next week. I have to make a chairman's video and a promo video that the news has been wanting for a while. Sorry for the inconvenience. :o

Moonangel1616

24-03-2009 09:00

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yeah my team is heading for toronto but i'm not going cuz i'm too tired from the senior trip to New York city. it was a lot of fum though i did miss my mom and my boyfriend who i've been going out with since the finger lakes regional.

Nick Lawrence

06-07-2009 01:45

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*topic revival*

We finally did figure out what the problem was at FLR, and a good portion of GTR.

We had a bad battery, internally. Either a plate was shifted, cracked, or something, because under short loads, it was fine. All the connections on the robot, and even to the battery were perfect. But once a load was put on it for a longer period of time, it would simply die. We kept using this battery, because it was the best one we had, according to our "short period" tester.

What's ironic about this, is that we named all our batteries after X-Men. It's funny, that this battery was named "Jean Grey."

Jean has been decomissioned.

It wasn't a field problem, it was just coincidental that it was the same driver's station that we were at that had problems. I felt like I needed to give this some closure, because it bit us at GTR too.

-Nick

esquared

10-07-2009 20:43

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Nick,

I'm glad you guys figured out what the deal was. Although FIRST reneged on the whole "Robots can't be temporarily enabled while the FMS/field is connecting to everything" (see Bill's blog for details), your situation was definitely unique among the 3 regionals and championships that we attended.

Hope to see you at Ruckus this year, and hope that a new "Jean Grey" doesn't go "Phoenix". In which case we will be standing by with fire extinguishers and battery kits :rolleyes:

--Eric

Akash Rastogi

10-07-2009 21:32

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Originally Posted by Nick Lawrence (Post 865826)

Nick, was it one of the old 07 batteries or even 08?

Nick Lawrence

10-07-2009 22:27

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Nick, was it one of the old 07 batteries or even 08?

It was a 2009 battery. It may have been dropped, or knocked over during the course of the season. It's unknown what really happened to it, I'm just making an assumption.

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I know that I will make the effort to attend Ruckus, but I'm not sure our team will be there. I'm thinking of volunteering, myself.

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