Re: the verb to CAD CADded? CADed?
 

but there is a distinct difference from profesionalism and not. I know a lot of people us it in an unformal way, but that doesn't mean its profesional to write it out...

I'll just keep saying it but not use it on my site. It not like its that hard to use it as a noun anyways. lol XD

Re: the verb to CAD CADded? CADed?
 

Why is it that I see the decline of western civilization in this quote :rolleyes:

Re: the verb to CAD CADded? CADed?
 

Dan's right, just because no one will correct you doesn't mean its right. I for one enjoy reading a well written post. I also have a habit of disregarding posts that are rife with typos and mix up words often (to,too,two or there,their,they're) I would say it isn't personal but frankly it is. However, if I happen to know English isn't someone's native language it is a different story. Please try to use proper English when possible.

I believe that a proper way of saying you 'CADed' something would be, "I designed this using CAD software."

I also apologize for the off topic nature of my post, I do appreciate that you are making an attempt at being professional on your website. Also, for practical purposes around the CD community, CADed is probably acceptable as an industry term.

EDIT: Please note, I try to follow my own advice, I don't always succeed. And by no means is this justification to start insulting people for spelling.

Re: the verb to CAD CADded? CADed?
 

From someone who has gone from table drafting in days of yore to computer drafting, I've never used I CADded a drawing for you. I may have drawn it, or (rarely) drafted it. I don't think I've ever heard CADded. In my mind, it would be an "inside joke" way to phrase it, similar to using "ain't" or "more better".

I'm thinking it might be how easy it is to type or say. One can easily have googled for something, but it's not easier to say or write I CADded a drawing.

Another possibility is that it is assumed you had computer assistance to draw it, and you don't have to actually say it? If you drew a drawing, did you use CAD or use pencil and paper? Back in paper days it would have been I made these blueprints for you or I'll blueprint it for you. In between the two I would have done it on the computer. (And back then it was CADD, not CAD.)

Probably if I saw CADded on a resume I would raise an eyebrow. May not be a deal breaker, but in architecture and construction words do have certain meanings.

And to put the word on a solid footing, we can't even write the word the same way! I think it's CADded, others have used CADed. To me, the latter is the past tense of to CADE.

All in all, Noah, an amusing and interesting question.

Re: the verb to CAD CADded? CADed?
 

It only looks that way because different words come from different sources which have different rules. Look at any discussion of the proper plural form of the word "virus" to see the resulting confusion.

My complaint is that English has so many rules that it's impossible to follow some without breaking others. :P

Re: the verb to CAD CADded? CADed?
 

I've used "CAD'ed" and "automagically" on occasion in some of my engineering or embedded systems lab reports for my courses. Ironically, every lab report in which I did that received a final grade of over 100% (for other reasons besides the choice of vocabulary though).

While the second one is most definitely not professional, I don't see making CAD into a verb as destructive to the English language. We already have the largest and most complex vocabulary and grammar rules of all languages. At the same time, English is constantly absorbing new terms and morphing with other languages to become a "super language".

While many of these terms at one time may have been unprofessional, given time they become so far ingrained into the English language that they become "professional". Take truthiness for example.

Languages must keep a balance between staying professional and being so stubborn they never change while the rest of the world moves onwards around them, leaving them behind. Try using Middle English or Shakespearean English to communicate nowadays, to tell someone what the Internet is and what it does. You might be able to get the fundamentals across, but the lack of vocabulary will get you in the details. So in that context, we would be "making up unprofessional words" in order to get our ideas out in the most efficient manner.

But if language is meant to be the most efficient means to convey ideas, and if words arise which convey ideas more efficiently without resorting to vulgar means and they become widely used, then by all means they should become a "professional" component of the English language.

Warning: "cadded" has a negative street meaning already!
 

I believe that as of NOW forms of "Draft[...]" are still the standard in industry. But then again, MY dad still calls his Refrigerator "the Ice Box", so who knows what terms the newest wave of young Engineers will create as they replace old school "Draftsmen"? :) (...Whoops, sorry. To keep out of trouble, maybe I better use the more PC term "Draftsperson"??? :rolleyes:)

Slang is a VERY generational thing. Verbal Shorthands (like TV for Television or Car and Auto for Automobile) evolve all the time to speed communication. It'll be interesting to see if one of these new terms emerge and take root for this now "common activity" in business.

Personally, I've been hearing phrases like "Hey, go CAD it up and run a Sim on it to see what'll happen" quite often lately, giving me the impression that a new shorthand WILL emerge. I've also heard "go CNC it", or "I'm CNCing it this afternoon" when talking schedule, so the question is timely, too.

But be careful of using the term "CADded". According to some Urban Dictionaries, "cadded" has the derogatory street meaning of "something that is hideous or ugly". (The given sample was "...That girl's face iz cadded...", <LOL!>). See: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cadded

(...So with that in mind, if you were bad at "CADding up this year's robot" and made a hideous drawing, would you then have a "cadded CADded robot"??? :D )

I've got it... To have some fun, walk up to your CAD teammate tomorrow, look over their shoulder at their screen and say, "Hey, that's CADDED, Dude". Then point them to the above link and while they're reading get prepared to RUN FAST... :D

Seriously though, this is an interesting problem!

OOC: To those in industry - In addition to CAD, what about CAE, CNC, CIM, FMS, or Simulation? What new slang terms, "VERBage" (pun intended), or shorthands have YOU heard lately at YOUR worksite when talking about these things?

- Keith

Re: the verb to CAD CADded? CADed?
 

To answer your question shortly, no. It is definitely unprofessional. If I was doing research and came upon a site that used this word, I would immediately dismiss it. I would go to another site. Not trying to be harsh, but I don't like made up words.

Re: the verb to CAD CADded? CADed?
 

[English isn't that pure.] It not only borrows words from other languages; it has on occasion chased other languages down dark alley-ways, clubbed them unconscious and rifled their pockets for new vocabulary. -- James Nicoll

First they came for the verbs, and I said nothing because verbing weirds language. Then they arrival for the nouns, and I speech nothing because I no verbs. -- Peter Ellis

While I wouldn't dismiss out of hand seeing the word CADded (depending on the degree of the source), it just doesn't work right. I'm never asked to CAD something, just give me a drawing of this. As long as it's correct and readable, the back of an envelope would be good for some things. Come to think of it, the other day I did a hand sketch in a car while my boss was driving us up Rt 128. When we got back to the office, he faxed it as is. :ahh: If I had known that I'd have drawn the lines a little straighter :o ... but the steel beams still came out straight. :whew:

Re: the verb to CAD CADded? CADed?
 

wow, this is getting to be a little more complicated than I thought... lol.

I agree, If the content has made up words, or even typos (spelling and such...) the content becomes less accurate... It makes it seem like the webmaster doesn't know what they are talking about...

overall, I think that it is more of an "inside joke" (someone said that a while back in this thread) that just a lot of people understand.... maybe not necessarily an inside joke, but just a universal made up word that everyone knows the meaning of (assuming you use CAD software or know what it is)

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Just think what happens when the resident Grammarians chime in...

I too, started back in the days when everything was on the board. I was an intern one summer at a large aerospace company and my last week they let me work on mylar... in ink! That was a big deal back then.

I'm still in aerospace, working at the same facility for a different company. Generally we use the term "model" when using a CAD program to design something in 3D. As in "Why don't you go model that design change so we can get it approved" or "That is a great concept, go model it so everybody will understand"

We "do" a 2D drawing that is then "printed" for distribution and use. Usually this is done with part of the CAD system we are using, but I occasionally do really simple stuff on paper.

Re: the verb to CAD CADded? CADed?
 

I thought the quotes at the start of this post were great... but I take it you wanted to CAD it before he faxed it?

Jason

Re: the verb to CAD CADded? CADed?
 

I guess there are a whole lot more grammer people who do CAD than I thought.

I know that personally, I am the kid who always has his laptop and relies on Office 03' (07' sucks.... but thats a different topic) for the little red and green lines for grammer and spelling errors. :D

Re: the verb to CAD CADded? CADed?
 

Isn't the whole point of first to do something your grammer would be proud of?


Ooooh.... sorry about that.....:D

Jason

Re: the verb to CAD CADded? CADed?
 

As you participate in ChiefDelphi, I'll venture to guess that you will discover that there are engineers, teachers, students, and others, who have a great respect for the English language and for technical language. For many, it is the connection with the language, proper use of terms/terminology, applications, and communication that benefit their positions and their effectiveness, whether it be in their jobs, on their teams, or when working with others as mentors and as teammates. As you read posts during build season, pay attention to some that are carefully crafted. You will notice how well-written they are immediately. For a preview, check out the spotlight section - the quotes at the top have a page icon that you can click on. That will lead you to the post in its entirety and to the thread that it is a part of. There are gems throughout the fora of CD filled with excellent writing and care taken in the areas of spelling and correct use of terminology.