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MadeAtMidnight 31-10-2008 20:33

It all started with FIRST....
 
Wed. night our animation team went to watch BuddyB309's animations at Artimation for the The Illinois Institute of Art. He had 5 entries selected to be shown. He won more than one award!! He had an amazing lunch with the judges. It was impressive to see the animations on the big screen and even more impressive to realize that FIRST was what helped start him on this path.
Congrats!

Cyberphil 31-10-2008 21:29

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Yeah, you guys always do an awesome job on the animations! I especially liked this years. Those fridges have to do something. And the Credits really are awesome. That must've taken a long time.

Jim E 31-10-2008 21:36

Re: It all started with FIRST....
 
Do you have links to the videos?

I would like to see them.

Thanks.

MadeAtMidnight 31-10-2008 22:06

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You can search some of his animations at You Tube at: http://www.youtube.com/user/Buddyb309
He had a couple of the oggy shorts and the Appliance Night Out. I don't think the Appliance one is all on You Tube, but there are portions of it.

BuddyB309 01-11-2008 19:10

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Hey ya'll. I'll give you an update on appliance night out.

Its not on Youtube yet because I'm making the opening and closing credits. There are a few names I still have to contact to make sure I get them spelled right.
I don't know when It will be up. Because now I have to make a professional demo reel within a weeks time. Disney wants a copy so they can send out to multiple studios. ugh... I don't believe I'm going to sleep.

Cyberphil 01-11-2008 23:46

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I just have one question: How did you make that completely white background look so good? I can't get the shadows to work the way I want them. And I also wanted to know if you used the Vray renderer. I wish we could get that.

BuddyB309 02-11-2008 23:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberphil (Post 773285)
I just have one question: How did you make that completely white background look so good? I can't get the shadows to work the way I want them. And I also wanted to know if you used the Vray renderer. I wish we could get that.

I assume your talking about "The Most Extravagant Credits Ever." I don't use V-ray, I believe its highly overrated. Its actually very simple. Create a skylight, turn on mental ray, then turn on final gather. Set the environment background to 242,242,255 to match the color of the sky light. Create a white plane as the ground. Then create a dancing ted boardmen.

Cyberphil 03-11-2008 15:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BuddyB309 (Post 773473)
I assume your talking about "The Most Extravagant Credits Ever." I don't use V-ray, I believe its highly overrated. Its actually very simple. Create a skylight, turn on mental ray, then turn on final gather. Set the environment background to 242,242,255 to match the color of the sky light. Create a white plane as the ground. Then create a dancing ted boardmen.

I can just never get it to look that good. Do you need to use exterior daylight? Im guessing you do with the skylight.

BuddyB309 05-11-2008 00:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberphil (Post 773591)
I can just never get it to look that good. Do you need to use exterior daylight? Im guessing you do with the skylight.

Bwah ha! ok, you're more experienced with max. This dabbles into the realm of Layer Rendering With this technique, you need a third party program such as After Effects or Combustion. Its more complex there and I really dont want to type that much so......

Tutorials!!!!

Don't be afraid to rip out your textures on your model to fit your layer that you are currently rendering out.

Learn Backburner and set up backburner on your computer to run as a master and a slave. That way it can go through all the layers as you sleep.

render out in .tga or .png files so you have an alpha channel.

Cyberphil 05-11-2008 20:35

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Ok, thank you. I knew you were leaving out some key information.

Ive never used combustion, but we do have it. Our lead animator last year was trying to use it, but all that did for him was give him a huge headache. Maybe we'll try harder with it this year.

And we only use backburner when we are rendering final whole scenes. Il try to use it more often.

And i don't think we ever rendered in .tga or .png files. But it sorta makes sense.

Thanks for the info. You really do know what you're taking about. I'l see what we can do with this new found info this year. :)

Jreed129 10-11-2008 12:30

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well to explain what Phil can not...

Chris, our lead animator last year, did attempt to use combustion with .png files along with alpha channels to layer render our animation last year. The trouble we ran into last year is we would have had to render everything 4 times for each frame, alpha of front/back and color of front/back (were front and back refer to different layers and distance from camera), if I remember correctly. This also was the first time that we used combustion so we were not sure what we were doing.

Seeing as this process was taking so long we looked into why our animation could not render as each full frame with all layers turned on. In the end when a former team member came back to help us, we used a raytrace material that was overloading all the computers, so we replaced the material with another and rendering was smooth again. and did not take 2 hours on 1 frame.

Why it was over loading them I do not know.

MadeAtMidnight 29-10-2009 08:20

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Time to update this thread....
Last night the animation team took a road trip to see Artimation 2009 from the Illionis Institute of Art. Saw BuddyB309 -- he won 3 awards -- best 2D animation, best 3D animation and best Animation Performance! Congrats Pete! We're proud of you.

BuddyB309 01-11-2009 14:30

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Whoo!! thanks. I guess being a shut in, animating 24/7 pays off.

Trying to Help 01-11-2009 22:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BuddyB309 (Post 773246)
I don't know when It will be up. Because now I have to make a professional demo reel within a weeks time. Disney wants a copy so they can send out to multiple studios. ugh... I don't believe I'm going to sleep.

I loved seeing these but I'd love to know - whatever happened with Disney wanting a copy? You have a wonderful talent.

Trying to Help

BuddyB309 02-11-2009 14:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trying to Help (Post 880792)
I loved seeing these but I'd love to know - whatever happened with Disney wanting a copy? You have a wonderful talent.

Trying to Help

I had lunch with him again. He says hes going to track me so he knows when I will graduate.


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