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AndyB 06-11-2008 09:02
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Midwest is as intense as ever.
Las Vegas looks really good this year.
Washington DC is very good looking 1st year regional.


I'm really looking forward to Wisconsin this year as well.

lenny8 06-11-2008 15:41
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i see DC is a 1st regional that explains why a lot of veteran teams signed up. being the first ever champs sounds pretty sweeeeeeet :cool:

ttldomination 06-11-2008 16:03
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Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to favor any regional over another, but I think that the regionals which don't have particularly DOMINANT teams are the harder ones.

It's at these regionals where things are unexpected. One team may do better than the other one year, and in another year, a totally unknown team comes and dominates. I think these regionals are harder than all o' the others, cause no one's really sure what to expect.

lenny8 06-11-2008 16:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ttldomination (Post 774190)
Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to favor any regional over another, but I think that the regionals which don't have particularly DOMINANT teams are the harder ones.

It's at these regionals where things are unexpected. One team may do better than the other one year, and in another year, a totally unknown team comes and dominates. I think these regionals are harder than all o' the others, cause no one's really sure what to expect.
i agree if you have power house team you kinda expect them to win but a place where everyone is in the same boat its much more intense *Cough* Boilermaker *Cough*

Taylor 06-11-2008 16:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lenny8 (Post 774194)
i agree if you have power house team you kinda expect them to win but a place where everyone is in the same boat its much more intense *Cough* Boilermaker *Cough*
Especially when that boat is in Indiana.

When I look at the BMR team list, I see, as JVN says, a bunch of teams that are "due" this year. I think this event will be the coming-out party for a couple of 'dormant' teams. Early prediction: The BMR champs will include 1501 and (at least) one of the PurdueFIRST teams.

lenny8 06-11-2008 21:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boiler (Post 774199)
Especially when that boat is in Indiana.

When I look at the BMR team list, I see, as JVN says, a bunch of teams that are "due" this year. I think this event will be the coming-out party for a couple of 'dormant' teams. Early prediction: The BMR champs will include 1501 and (at least) one of the PurdueFIRST teams.
if i see the team list i think wildstang is there so why didn't you pick the defending champs?

BT987 06-11-2008 21:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisH (Post 773466)
The BeachBots originally signed up for DC hoping to get a grant to attend. Then we found out we were not eligible for it. So we are going to Las Vegas instead.

If I figured out the BBQ and SAUCE for Las Vegas correctly, they come out to 1.92 and 1.11 respectively based on teams currently registered. It is also a deep field with no team having more than 20% of the SAUCE points. ALL of the powerhouse teams of the West Coast will be there. I am glad I'm not working this one. It will be one to watch. There should be at least two good robots in every match.

not all....dont forget 39

DUCKIE 07-11-2008 14:29
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I was just skimming the BBQ and SAUCE data you posted, and it does not seem to be correct.

For example, in the spreadsheets posted earlier... the Cheesy Poofs (FRC:254) have a Silver SAUCE of 9 and a BBQ of 22.

Looking solely at Champion and Finalist placings (no Chairman's) on the FIRST listing has them at a Silver SAUCE of 11 and BBQ of 23.

The three other teams I looked at also seem to be off.

Did I miss something somewhere?

Andrew Schreiber 07-11-2008 14:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DUCKY (Post 774345)
I was just skimming the BBQ and SAUCE data you posted, and it does not seem to be correct.

For example, in the spreadsheets posted earlier... the Cheesy Poofs (FRC:254) have a Silver SAUCE of 9 and a BBQ of 22.

Looking solely at Champion and Finalist placings (no Chairman's) on the FIRST listing has them at a Silver SAUCE of 11 and BBQ of 23.

The three other teams I looked at also seem to be off.

Did I miss something somewhere?
Yea, there was a bug found in that data. I am working on fixing all the bugs and will be sending a link to a page that will allow you to look up based on multiple criteria so you can use any method you want and have it spit out data. Right now I have it working if you want to write your own regular expressions but would like to allow you to just select check boxes. When it is done I will post a link here.

DUCKIE 07-11-2008 14:52
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Ok, so I'm not going crazy more than normal... thank goodness.

Taylor 07-11-2008 16:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lenny8 (Post 774238)
if i see the team list i think wildstang is there so why didn't you pick the defending champs?
For exactly the reasons I outlined in my post. There are nine Indiana teams entering their fourth or fifth year; I believe 2009 will be a coming-of-age year and a return to glory for Indiana teams in general.

Andrew Schreiber 07-11-2008 21:54
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As I promised earlier here is the link to the page I created to generate the data. http://schreiaj.ath.cx/~andrew/FRC/index.php

Couple things to keep in mind
  • This data is only as accurate as my regular expressions, if you notice incorrect data tell me and I will tweak my expressions.
  • I am trying to keep it plain so that it remains fast.
  • This is a beta input is encouraged
  • This is hosted on my HOME server so the connection may go out if you guys all hammer on it. So be kind

Enjoy

EDIT: If anyone would be willing to offer server space on a real server I would appreciate it. Requirements: The ability to hold a large number of txt files (about 3.8 mBs worth). Be a Unix compatible server (the pages uses grep and sed) Allow php to call shell_exec.

JB987 08-11-2008 00:48
Re: Hardest Regional
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 774402)
As I promised earlier here is the link to the page I created to generate the data. http://schreiaj.ath.cx/~andrew/FRC/index.php

Couple things to keep in mind
  • This data is only as accurate as my regular expressions, if you notice incorrect data tell me and I will tweak my expressions.
  • I am trying to keep it plain so that it remains fast.
  • This is a beta input is encouraged
  • This is hosted on my HOME server so the connection may go out if you guys all hammer on it. So be kind

Enjoy

EDIT: If anyone would be willing to offer server space on a real server I would appreciate it. Requirements: The ability to hold a large number of txt files (about 3.8 mBs worth). Be a Unix compatible server (the pages uses grep and sed) Allow php to call shell_exec.
Great job, Andrew...does this data stick to the 05 to present award count?

Andrew Schreiber 08-11-2008 07:00
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Originally Posted by JB987 (Post 774432)
Great job, Andrew...does this data stick to the 05 to present award count?
Not yet, I am working on figuring out the best way of allowing users to pick date ranges. Would checkboxes for years work? ie
[] 1990 []1991 []1992 etc etc?

JB987 08-11-2008 11:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 774444)
Not yet, I am working on figuring out the best way of allowing users to pick date ranges. Would checkboxes for years work? ie
[] 1990 []1991 []1992 etc etc?

IMO...a data set from the last 4 years provides a decent picture of time relevant trends and is more relevant than a data set that includes awards from 10 or more years ago. To use an NFL analogy, if I was going to consider a bet on a game that includes San Francisco who has a great history of multiple championships I would want to look at recent history before dropping a dime on a game, wouldn't I? I am a great fan of the 49ers by the way, but a realist just the same!


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