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Kingofl337 19-11-2008 15:11

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I wonder what the cost will be for just a 2nd CRio and Power Distro Board. Seeing many teams will have a spare Digital Side car and Analog Bumper.

Alan Anderson 19-11-2008 15:11

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Originally Posted by Elgin Clock (Post 776266)
Are the joysticks comfortable (in ergonomic terms) & interchangable, or do we have two right-handed sticks again?
I'm not familiar with that brand.

I made it a point to try them out when More Robotics of Milwaukee came to Kokomo for a demo over the weekend. The joysticks are ambidextrous (i.e. left-right symmetrical) and don't feel different when held with each hand. They return to center with relatively strong force, and will likely need to be firmly mounted to a base in order to be comfortable to use. They're not as "smooth" around the center as the CH Flightsticks, but which is better is probably a matter of personal preference.

I don't think there's any mechanical calibration to get out of whack. That alone is going to make things a lot easier on the drivers.

vivek16 19-11-2008 15:31

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I have a WAGO tool. It's a screwdriver but sharp enough to cut yourself with. :P

-Vivek

EDIT: accidentaly of course :yikes:

Jeff Pahl 19-11-2008 15:47

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Originally Posted by colin340 (Post 776263)
looks nice but man i hope they give us 5 more lbs

Don't hold your breath on that one. There are some very compelling reasons to keep the entire robot weight below 150 lbs.
120 + 15 [bumpers] + 13 [battery] = 148

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Originally Posted by Rickertsen2 (Post 776265)
That is a large number of of really big components to fit in a small space.

Both of these are just additional engineering challenges :) Just like we face every day in industry. It's all just part of the fun.

Taylor 19-11-2008 15:58

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Originally Posted by Kingofl337 (Post 776283)
I wonder what the cost will be for just a 2nd CRio and Power Distro Board. Seeing many teams will have a spare Digital Side car and Analog Bumper.

I believe the NI fellows that made the presentation at the IndianaFIRST forum said one extra package will be available to each FIRST teams for $650 (any more and you pay full price).

Tom Bottiglieri 19-11-2008 16:13

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Originally Posted by Jeff Pahl (Post 776304)
Don't hold your breath on that one. There are some very compelling reasons to keep the entire robot weight below 150 lbs.
120 + 15 [bumpers] + 13 [battery] = 148

OSHA Max. 2 man lift weight = 150 lbs.

Jeff Pahl 19-11-2008 16:16

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Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri (Post 776313)
OSHA Max. 2 man lift weight = 150 lbs.

Exactly. And as an "old guy" who always seemed to get stuck with carrying the bot on and off the field with the human player so the drivers could set up the controls, my back is of the opinion that's still too heavy :)

Alan Anderson 19-11-2008 16:30

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Originally Posted by Taylor (Post 776310)
I believe the NI fellows that made the presentation at the IndianaFIRST forum said one extra package will be available to each FIRST teams for $650 (any more and you pay full price).

He didn't give a firm number, but he suggested that "less than $700" was the target. However, that "one extra package" is only the NI-supplied components: the cRIO and its plug-in modules. Power Distribution, Sidecars, and Breakouts are to be available a la carte through AndyMark (also at an as yet undisclosed price).

IndySam 19-11-2008 16:35

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Originally Posted by Taylor (Post 776310)
I believe the NI fellows that made the presentation at the IndianaFIRST forum said one extra package will be available to each FIRST teams for $650 (any more and you pay full price).

I though they said $1000 for an the extra cRIO and each team could purchase one at that price.

I believe Andy was estimating $200-$300 for the PD, sidecar and breakouts.

waialua359 19-11-2008 17:02

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Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 776236)

NICE! Lucky you, ground shipping is fast shipping where you're located.

Mark McLeod 19-11-2008 17:14

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Originally Posted by waialua359 (Post 776333)
NICE! Lucky you, ground shipping is fast shipping where you're located.

That's because we're downhill from New Hampshire.:)
On the way to Hawaii the ground shipping has to get pretty deep to find ground then climb all the way back up those Hawaiian mountains.:eek:

Stu Bloom 19-11-2008 17:15

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Originally Posted by IndySam (Post 776322)
I though they said $1000 for an the extra cRIO and each team could purchase one at that price.

I believe Andy was estimating $200-$300 for the PD, sidecar and breakouts.

I believe Barry said "under $1000, and probably under $700". Whether or not he knew the actual figure is questionable.

wilsonmw04 19-11-2008 18:06

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ours just shipped :-)

Ed Sparks 19-11-2008 18:51

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Looks like I'll have plenty of parts to model this year for the FirstCadLibrary.

Doug G 19-11-2008 19:22

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Originally Posted by wilsonmw04 (Post 776351)
ours just shipped :-)

How do you know if it shipped? E-mail?


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