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CraigHickman 20-11-2008 22:06

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I have to say, I'm not too thrilled about having to pack these suckers into our robot... In the past, electronics have already been a squeeze. We shall see, though.

On the plus side, it seems like it will be slightly harder for us to drop shavings and chips onto the H bridge, and fry them! This is good, because high school students seem to have an impressive ability to fry any electronic system you put in front of them...

Matt382 20-11-2008 22:12

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Jaguars and Victos weigh approximately the same. I know from holding them and comparing; there is no noticable difference unless you put it on a very accurate scale.

Deep Dark 20-11-2008 22:51

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I simply cannot get over the size difference. I'm really not a complainer, but having controls aspects adding more weight, and taking up more space, on the robot is not exactly something I am looking forward to. I guess we'll just need to not put as much mechanical stuff on inorder to make weight and size.

synth3tk 20-11-2008 23:31

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It depends on the limits this year. I'm sure they'll take the new system into consideration when making the rules this season.

Vikesrock 21-11-2008 00:14

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Originally Posted by synth3tk (Post 776611)
It depends on the limits this year. I'm sure they'll take the new system into consideration when making the rules this season.

I have a strong feeling the limits will remain under the size of a standard door. A standard door is 36" wide and you have to leave room for the door itself and the doorstop (the thin slat that sticks out from the jamb on the side opposite the hinges). With bumpers added on each side of the 28" that was the max width last year you are already pushing up very close to that.

I suppose they could add to the length though.

Andrew Schreiber 21-11-2008 00:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Deep Dark (Post 776607)
I simply cannot get over the size difference. I'm really not a complainer, but having controls aspects adding more weight, and taking up more space, on the robot is not exactly something I am looking forward to. I guess we'll just need to not put as much mechanical stuff on inorder to make weight and size.

As stated earlier the new Jaguars dont weight that much more than the Victors. Size wise they may be larger but perhaps we will stop seeing the electronics being shoved in wherever they will go. We will just need to be more careful with our designing. With any luck it will FORCE teams to clean up their wiring and electrical boards.

synth3tk 21-11-2008 00:33

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Oh, my bad. I misread the post. I thought he meant weight limits.

Well, as stated above, plan on cleaning up your electronics nicely this year, and you should be fine.

Vikesrock 21-11-2008 00:39

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Originally Posted by synth3tk (Post 776622)
Oh, my bad. I misread the post. I thought he meant weight limits.

Well, as stated above, plan on cleaning up your electronics nicely this year, and you should be fine.

It appears I'm the one that should be apologizing. He mentioned both weight and size, but for some reason I assumed you were talking about size.

synth3tk 21-11-2008 02:29

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Wow, I guess he did. It's time for me to go to bed..... :rolleyes:

Cory 21-11-2008 06:27

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Originally Posted by synth3tk (Post 776622)
Well, as stated above, plan on cleaning up your electronics nicely this year, and you should be fine.

I'd like to think that 254 and 968 have nicely organized electronics boards and I can say without a doubt that we could not possibly fit jaguars into any of our past 3 robots without redesigning the actual robot itself.

The size of the jaguar is a very real concern for us, regardless of how much better it's performance may or may not be.

Triple B 21-11-2008 07:10

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Originally Posted by Cory (Post 776650)
I'd like to think that 254 and 968 have nicely organized electronics boards and I can say without a doubt that we could not possibly fit jaguars into any of our past 3 robots without redesigning the actual robot itself.

The size of the jaguar is a very real concern for us, regardless of how much better it's performance may or may not be.

sounds like the poofs and rawc will have a challenge this year, and I am sure they will out do everything previously accomplished.
mike d

NickE 21-11-2008 09:54

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Originally Posted by Triple B (Post 776656)
sounds like the poofs and rawc will have a challenge this year

That would be on the assumption that we choose to use the jaguars this year.

JesseK 21-11-2008 10:46

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I imagine we'll see more 3-D layouts for electronics this year. The first layout we'll probably try is an upside-down "T", with the Jaguars on the vertical part.

samir13k 22-11-2008 21:46

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I got our kit today, and i saw the pro and the con of the jaguar

Pro: good performance, SURPRISINGLY LIGHT WEIGHT!!!

Con: looks even bigger in person (at least i think)

AdamHeard 22-11-2008 21:56

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Can someone actually weigh the two and post?

A .1lb difference may not be noticeable by holding them, but could easily be an entire pound on the robot.


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