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Mike Starke 17-03-2012 23:40

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Hey Ed!
First off, thank you SO MUCH for doing this!
Secondly, would it be at all possible to have the file available as a ".xls"? My Mac doesn't seem to like the .xlsx
Thanks! If it works better for you to email it to me, shoot me a DM!
Thanks!

Ed Law 18-03-2012 00:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Starke (Post 1145453)
Hey Ed!
First off, thank you SO MUCH for doing this!
Secondly, would it be at all possible to have the file available as a ".xls"? My Mac doesn't seem to like the .xlsx
Thanks! If it works better for you to email it to me, shoot me a DM!
Thanks!

Please PM me your email address. You have no contact info on CD.

Doc Wu 19-03-2012 08:19

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This is an amazing spreadsheet. As someone who used to write Lotus 1-2-3 macros back in the day, I am in awe.

I was able to run the macros to update the week 3 regionals successfully. How do I get that data merged into the OPR and WM tabs?

Thanks...

Ed Law 19-03-2012 10:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doc Wu (Post 1146029)
This is an amazing spreadsheet. As someone who used to write Lotus 1-2-3 macros back in the day, I am in awe.

I was able to run the macros to update the week 3 regionals successfully. How do I get that data merged into the OPR and WM tabs?

Thanks...

I am glad it worked out for you. Every week after the events are over, I update the OPR numbers, check to make sure all results FIRST posted are correct, and then I transfer that week's data to the OPR and WM tabs. I guess I am performing the Quality Control function and make sure there is only one set of data in the CD community instead of everybody running them and potentially have slightly different numbers.

Week 3 data were already posted yesterday. There is a separate post to discuss each week's data. See http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...hreadid=104743

marccenter 19-03-2012 13:12

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Dr Ed Law,
Thanks for revising the database to add points for teams that elected to gather coopertition points for their alliance. At the Michigan Waterford District tournament we found ourselves often in a position that we were the most consistent bridge climbing team and other opposing alliance often met with us to discuss going together on the white bridge to gain this valuable seeding points. We could have climbed the alliance bridge for 10 points but elected to go the other route. Should the coopertition points really be 10 points instead of the 5 shown in your database? We still climbed a bridge and balanced?

Ed Law 19-03-2012 13:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by marccenter (Post 1146132)
Dr Ed Law,
Thanks for revising the database to add points for teams that elected to gather coopertition points for their alliance. At the Michigan Waterford District tournament we found ourselves often in a position that we were the most consistent bridge climbing team and other opposing alliance often met with us to discuss going together on the white bridge to gain this valuable seeding points. We could have climbed the alliance bridge for 10 points but elected to go the other route. Should the coopertition points really be 10 points instead of the 5 shown in your database? We still climbed a bridge and balanced?

We are giving 5 bridge points for every 1 coop point. However when you balance on the coop bridge in each match, you get 2 coop points which means you are getting 10 bridge points. If you had gone to the alliance bridge by yourselves or balance with a partner, it is also 10 points extra, so it is the same. If you feel that you want to look at it differently by sorting using more than 5 bridge points for every 1 coop point, you can change the number in cell AF1 to whatever you like.

Ed Law 19-03-2012 14:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Starke (Post 1145453)
Hey Ed!
First off, thank you SO MUCH for doing this!
Secondly, would it be at all possible to have the file available as a ".xls"? My Mac doesn't seem to like the .xlsx
Thanks! If it works better for you to email it to me, shoot me a DM!
Thanks!

Mike, it is your lucky day. Excel finally cooperated and let me write it out in .xls format.
Ether, now you can look at the data using Excel 2003.

Ether 19-03-2012 14:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Law (Post 1146167)
Mike, it is your lucky day. Excel finally cooperated and let me write it out in .xls format.
Ether, now you can look at the data using Excel 2003.

Thanks Ed !



Ed Law 22-04-2012 23:27

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The database has been updated with Divisions information and links were set up for use at Championship to easily update the OPR etc. if you have access to the internet.

Good luck to all at the Championship. Our team is in Newton division. Stop by to say hi. I would love to hear from you and how you use this database for your team.

Jacob Plicque 23-04-2012 12:35

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Ed,
Thanks for the update. Your efforts make it a lot easier for Team 86 and surely others to find the diamond in the rough.
In my previous email, the playoffs were correctly predicted by the eliminations about 70% of the time. Have you considered calculating the playoff rounds with the elims to raise the accuracy of the predictor?
See you in St Louis.
Jacob:cool:
Mentor Team Resistance
Newton Division

Ed Law 24-04-2012 00:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacob Plicque (Post 1161906)
Ed,
Thanks for the update. Your efforts make it a lot easier for Team 86 and surely others to find the diamond in the rough.
In my previous email, the playoffs were correctly predicted by the eliminations about 70% of the time. Have you considered calculating the playoff rounds with the elims to raise the accuracy of the predictor?
See you in St Louis.
Jacob:cool:
Mentor Team Resistance
Newton Division

We are in Newton Division too. I will look forward to seeing you. Perhaps we can share our scouting data.

Ed Law 27-04-2012 09:38

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Championship data version 2 is out with Thursday's results. I also fixed some of the link problems that I can find.

Siri 27-04-2012 21:24

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Hi Ed,

We seem to be having a problem with updating Thursday's database for Friday's results. Crtl+Shift+P updates the ranking and official FIRST data, but the OPR data doesn't appear to change. Are we missing something? Thanks

Ed Law 28-04-2012 00:59

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Championship data Version 3 including Thursday and Friday results are uploaded. I fixed one problem with the OPR data calculation. However there is something very strange going on with the links. It keeps changing the link to KC, NH, TN and STX. If the Ctrl Shift P does not work, you will need to manually copy and paste into the spreadsheet.

A lot of these latest problem with the spreadsheet is because the spreadsheet was developed not expecting any regional to have more than 97 teams. Since we have 100 teams in each division, there was not enough room to put the standing data between 1 and 100. There are also more matches than I have allocated room for. I have to add rows and there were a lot of changes in the macros and formulas that I sometimes missed.

After the championship is over, I will need to clean this up and probably delete and redo all the links once and for all.

faust1706 18-03-2013 00:12

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wow. that is truly an amazing work of excel. Thanks for posting this, cant even begin to imagine how it was made!


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