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Betty_Krocker 05-12-2008 09:05

Re: Game Hint #1
 
the clue could have to do with the fact that fish have scales, and the robots could have to scale something...

Elgin Clock 05-12-2008 09:17

Re: Game Hint #1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pikat (Post 779585)
It (2008 game clue) pointed to a tortoise and hare statue - a race.

Quote:

Originally Posted by smstarkiller (Post 779587)
wow they put to much time into these clues

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Originally Posted by Pikat (Post 779589)
Actually, i think we do. lol.

The actual thing the coordinate clue pointed to last year was the start/finish line of the Boston Marathon, & not the Tortoise & The Hare. Technically both related to the game (sort of), but the start/finish line was the focus of the clue.

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Originally Posted by artdutra04 (Post 779676)
Everybody's doin' the fish! Yeah, yeah, yeah!
(In case you are wondering, the song in the above video is Trendy by Reel Big Fish).

Good thing they are coming around at the end of January to CT... I'll have to ask them if they know something!!! :rolleyes: :p

Michael Hill 05-12-2008 09:21

Re: Game Hint #1
 
Don't you guys see it? it's totally easy *Goes into National Treasure mode*

What we have in the picture is a moonfish. The moonfish is on a stamp in Madeira.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...of_Madeira.svg

Now, they've just shown us the basic outline of the field. It's obviously a 4-team game with everyone starting at one end of the cross trying to score something in the middle or grab a game piece from the middle.

johnr 05-12-2008 09:22

Re: Game Hint #1
 
Someone said earlier that it might be to hard for teams to do a practice field like the moon. Do you remember last years center wall base plates? Teams where getting stuck on them. Now take 2' x 2' half inch plywood sheets and put them under your carpet in random locations. Watch the bots bounce along.

JesseK 05-12-2008 09:25

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Given that last year the clue was in fact a latitude and longitude coordinate it might also be worth considering the CAAB Taxon Code for Lampris guttatus is 37 268001 which could easily be construed as a latitude in North America. If a Clue # 2 comes along it might be a reference to a longitude. I doubt that the GDC would give us a lat/lon 2 years in a row but you never know.
Last year we got a lat/long/bearing as a clue. We knew it was a lat/long, and even had it down to the right place in Boston. Yet still, no one figured out that the hint meant the tortoise and hare statues in that reside in Copley Square at the given bearing when standing at the main statue in the Square. The obvious is so hard to see sometimes...

Josh Goodman 05-12-2008 09:39

Re: Game Hint #1
 
I think it will be quite obvious that FIRST will want to show off their new controls system this year. So how can what we've come up with so far tie into the cRIO? I have no idea. I'm assuming we will be using a camera system this year, but I think that the 28X16 (or whatever it is) carpeted field has worked for many years so well, that they will stick with it, at least for the inaugural year of the cRIO.

JaneYoung 05-12-2008 09:45

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This has been a beautiful hint. Just beautiful.

Has there ever been a hint given with built-in Gracious Professionalism as part of its traditions/history?

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In Hawaii, the opah has historically been an incidental catch of longline gear. Only recently has this species become commercially important. The opah was viewed as a good luck fish by old-time longline fishermen, who would give it away as a gesture of goodwill rather than sell it.
The reference that was made to the Zen game equivalent of Rock, Paper, Scissors by DeepWater is another beauty, even if it doesn't amount to anything. It is a neat link to look at and think about.

Now the stamp in Madeira find that Michael just showed us. It's just all so cool.

Great hint, GDC and FIRST!

I think there were some great guesses at the hints in the past 3 years that I can remember. Some nailed the hints, some circled them and got 'this close'. That's what makes it fun when the game is revealed. But, the GP aspect of this one blows me out of the water. And, speaking of water - we are playing a water game, if you think about it - guessing the meaning of this fish.

SuperJake 05-12-2008 09:57

Re: Game Hint #1
 
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Originally Posted by DeepWater (Post 779654)
Sounds like we will be somehow playing "rock, paper, scissors" with robots and trying to steal something from the opposing alliance. Still 3v3. One "master" robot holds/guards a special game piece while the other 2 "disciple robots" try to steal the game piece from the opposing alliance for major bonus points. Maybe like 2006 with offensive and defensive periods of 2v3 or something.

I LOVE IT. It gives the teams that like to make super defensive robots something to defend, the robots that make super pushing robots something to push on (the defenders) and the super delicate finesse robots something to reach for. The Elimination rounds for this type of game play would be FANTASTIC.

There could also be some poor pairings during the qualification rounds, but we see that now anyway.

~Jake

Daboss314159 05-12-2008 10:40

Re: Game Hint #1
 
this kind of fish does not travel in a group, but it is a loner, mabey there wont be teams this year

Illegalsocks 05-12-2008 10:42

Re: Game Hint #1
 
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Originally Posted by Michael Hill (Post 779712)
Now, they've just shown us the basic outline of the field. It's obviously a 4-team game with everyone starting at one end of the cross trying to score something in the middle or grab a game piece from the middle.

Also, refering to thw Wiki article about Madeira, I found this:
"Madeira Island is the largest island of the group with an area of 741 km², a length of 30 geographical miles (57 km), a breadth of 13 miles (22 km) at its widest point, and a coastline of 80 to 90 miles. Its longer axis lies east and west, along which lies a mountain chain with a mean altitude of 4,000 feet (1,220 m), considered the backbone of the island from which many deep ravines radiate outward to the coast. Its most famous sea cliff, the Cabo Girão, is the world's second highest. The highest point on the island is Pico Ruivo, at 1,862 meters (6,107 ft)."

I'm sticking with the sloping playing field theory.

DMetalKong 05-12-2008 10:53

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More wikipedia fun!

Concerning Dave's signatures...

The six:
Quote:

Les Six is a name, inspired by The Five, given in 1923 by critic Henri Collet in an article titled ‘Les cinq Russes, les six Français et M. Satie’ (Comoedia, 16 January 1920) to a group of six composers working in Montparnasse whose music is often seen as a reaction against Wagnerism and Impressionism.
The five:
Quote:

The Five, also known as The Mighty Handful (Russian: Могучая кучка, Moguchaya kuchka), refers to a circle of composers who met in Saint Petersburg, Russia, in the years 1856-1870.
The four:
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The Glasgow School was a circle of influential modern artists and designers who began to coalesce in Glasgow, Scotland in the 1870s, and flourished from the 1890s to sometime around 1910. Groups part of this were The Four (also known as the Spook School), the Glasgow Girls and the Glasgow Boys.
Now, can anyone else relate 'the three' to arts and music?
And how does this fit in with fish?
I really have no idea...

ezygmont708 05-12-2008 11:08

2009 Game Hint #1
 
I just received the 1st FIRST Game Hint...
What do you think this means?

http://www.usfirst.org/community/frc/content.aspx?id=11310

AndyB 05-12-2008 11:17

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Anagrams for Lampris Guttatus of the top of my head:

I Must Lag Startup
A Gut Ramp Tilts Us


Can't wait to see the gut ramp...

billbo911 05-12-2008 11:27

Re: Game Hint #1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyB (Post 779749)
Anagrams for Lampris Guttatus of the top of my head:

I Must Lag Startup
A Gut Ramp Tilts Us


Can't wait to see the gut ramp...

Maybe a tilting ramp, like a teeter totter, in the gut, the middle, of the field?



Now on a different note. This Moonfish looks like a round, flat disk to me. Wouldn't it be cool to play Frisbee with robots??!!

IndySam 05-12-2008 11:38

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Originally Posted by billbo911 (Post 779750)
Now on a different note. This Moonfish looks like a round, flat disk to me. Wouldn't it be cool to play Frisbee with robots??!!

How about a foam flying disks?


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