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gorrilla 07-12-2008 10:44

Re: Game Hint #1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DMetalKong (Post 780520)
Gah! Dave changed his signature again.



Edit: Ok, now that he has posted a series of 5 numbers, I'm thinking zip code. 56345 happens to be the zip for Little Falls, MN. Then again, it could have nothing to do with places.

Edit #2: Does anyone know if his signature contained anything else unusual before the "To the five, you keep me alive"? That was when I started tracking it, but the sequence could have started before then.


here
http://www.littlefallsmn.com/Homepage.php

all i found was that it was were Charles Lindbergh lived? And theres this Ripley Esker thing too? And a fishing museum too?

GGCO 07-12-2008 11:01

Re: Game Hint #1
 
I tried the zip code for the password, and it doesn't work. I'm looking into that fishing museum though.

Benjwgarner 07-12-2008 11:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel_LaFleur (Post 779854)
But here's the real kicker. FIRST brought the picture into a photo editing program and changed the compression of the JPEG. Thus if they wanted to, they would have removed the background text (or if it had nothing to do with the game).

Thus, I believe, that the background text (be it the text itself, or the fact that it's there and/or it's backwards) was intentionally left there and is part of the hint.

Or, they could have left it in to throw us off the trail...

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeepWater (Post 779682)
For what it is worth the original image seems to be copyrighted by the Commonwealth Scientific and Industial Research Organisation (CSIRO) of Australia. Go to this page: http://www.marine.csiro.au/caabsearc...pcode=37268001 and click the little “image info” link under our new favorite photo at the top of the page. It should take you to this page: http://www.marine.csiro.au/caabsearc...7268001a-t.jpg with the copyright info.

The photo is available for purchase in high resolution here: http://www.frdc.com.au/shop/merchant...ore_Code=photo if say you wanted to publish it in a book as an illustration.

The photo FIRST is using as Clue #1 seems to come from a simple Google Images search for “moonfish” which in turn originated here (as previously noted in this thread): http://www.australianseafoodexports..../moonfish1.jpg which is linked to from this parent webpage: http://www.australianseafoodexports....rderonline.htm

The image used on www.australianseafoodexports.com has the reverse text in the background as does the FIRST Clue #1 image. The GDC did not covertly plant any hidden messages in the reverse text. They have better things to do with their time. More likely the Australian seafood export company scanned a photo of a “moonfish” they had handy in some book and the text on the backside of the page (probably about some entirely different and non-related fish) came through on the scan. My bet is this is the book: http://www.publish.csiro.au/?nid=18&pid=2181 but it may be this one also: http://www.publish.csiro.au/?nid=18&pid=3551. I don’t have a copy of either book myself but may can find one at the office when I get back next week. If anyone lives near a university with a marine research program they might want to check the university library and see what they can find.

Given that last year the clue was in fact a latitude and longitude coordinate it might also be worth considering the CAAB Taxon Code for Lampris guttatus is 37 268001 which could easily be construed as a latitude in North America. If a Clue # 2 comes along it might be a reference to a longitude. I doubt that the GDC would give us a lat/lon 2 years in a row but you never know.

If you look at the table of contents for the second book, moonfish is listed. The previous fish? The milkfish. Doesn't the milkfish look like the other fish bleeding through the page of the picture?? And if you do a google image search for "milkfish", you can see that it has a "deeply forked" tail.

Also, the book is published by CSRIO Publishing and FDRC. CSRIO is an anagram for cRIOs! FDRC = FRC, with a D?

Anyway, would it be so hard for them to do a water game just so we quit obsessing over it? Maybe water would be the "game piece." Maybe buckets of water and robots have to move a certain amount of water to other buckets?

rfrank 07-12-2008 12:13

Re: Game Hint #1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gorrilla (Post 780526)
here
http://www.littlefallsmn.com/Homepage.php

all i found was that it was were Charles Lindbergh lived? And theres this Ripley Esker thing too? And a fishing museum too?

That's interesting - the kidnapping of Lindbergh's baby leads me to the one important game piece idea, but this is just where he grew up so perhaps this is completely wrong.

Also, the Mississippi river flows through this town. So, it's definitely a water game. 100%.

Elgin Clock 07-12-2008 12:49

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500th post in this clue thread!! YAY!

We now return you back to our regularly scheduled conspiracy theories already in progress! :D

Ice Berg 07-12-2008 12:51

Re: Game Hint #1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjwgarner (Post 780542)
Anyway, would it be so hard for them to do a water game just so we quit obsessing over it? Maybe water would be the "game piece." Maybe buckets of water and robots have to move a certain amount of water to other buckets?

There was a game a while back where the game pieces were water filled balls.

smartkid 07-12-2008 12:57

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Very stupid question but did we ever figure out what those three numbers corresponded to last year? And if so was it before or after the kickoff?

EricH 07-12-2008 13:02

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Originally Posted by smartkid (Post 780556)
Very stupid question but did we ever figure out what those three numbers corresponded to last year? And if so was it before or after the kickoff?

Yes we did. Both. They were GPS coordinates of the next clue, the finish line of the Boston Marathon (or the Tortoise and the Hare statue, whichever you prefer). Before Kickoff, we found the clue area. After Kickoff, we found out what it meant.

SalenaLynn 07-12-2008 14:03

Re: Game Hint #1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nin_estarSaerah (Post 780330)
Perhaps there is a moonlike object or lunar terrain, with a fishing task. a combination of several ideas? Perhaps we have to "fish" in craters?

I was thinking pretty much the same thing.
Only I would guess that we would be fishing from a box in the center of the field that the drives can not see into. Perhaps the box is on a raised platform in the center of the field and we need to mount our cameras in such a way that we can easily pick up some small(or smallish) object from the box and return it to an area on either our side or the opponent's side of the field. (Assuming we have alliances still) If not, to our own individual area/box.
Just a thought.

Charlie 07-12-2008 14:31

Opah, OK
 
i google earthed "opah" and got

36 45'04.00" N 96 17' 35.02" W

an elevation of 840 ft at marker and a large hill in the top left corner of the screen

and 3 small ponds

just fyi

gorrilla 07-12-2008 14:52

Re: Opah, OK
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie (Post 780580)
i google earthed "opah" and got

36 45'04.00" N 96 17' 35.02" W

an elevation of 840 ft at marker and a large hill in the top left corner of the screen

and 3 small ponds

just fyi



i google mapped opah and got, Opah, OK, 74056?

i searched nearby, "frc" and got Team 2165, Team 1863, and Team 1209?

Tottanka 07-12-2008 14:53

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look what i found in the 'Opah' restaurant website, under 'the meaning of opah'.
This restaurant is the first result in google when searching for 'opah'.

http://www.opahrestaurant.com/whats-an-opah.htm
Code:

THE OPAH OR

“MOONFISH”

ONCE WAS VIEWED

AS GOOD LUCK

WHEN CAUGHT BY

OLD-TIME FISHERMEN

AND OFTEN GIVEN AWAY

AS A GESTURE OF

GOOD WILL


njamietech 07-12-2008 14:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie
i google earthed "opah" and got

36 45'04.00" N 96 17' 35.02" W

an elevation of 840 ft at marker and a large hill in the top left corner of the screen

and 3 small ponds

just fyi

here is that image

BigWhiteYeti 07-12-2008 15:04

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As much as I would love a water game, I don't think it is going to happen anytime soon. Think about it; if a battery comes loose or we get a short circuit, how would you retrieve your bot? The whole pond would be charged.

I don't think the fish has anything literal to do with the game. It is probably something vague and unimportant about the word "fish" in the context of the game. Perhaps there is something related to fishing, like your manipulator might need a hook to pick up the pieces.

Olde Bill 07-12-2008 15:12

Re: Game Hint #1
 
With Google as a sponsor of FIRST, is it coincidence that Hint #1 is the first image to appear when you Google moonfish images? Also called sunfish and opah ... greek ... olympics ... Sydney Summer 2000 Olympics. Australian ... down under? Opah ... greek wedding ... smashing plates. Scale something like a silver dollar fish in an aquarium up to the size of a moonfish and the playing field becomes an aquarium. Why did the original 50K jpeg file grow to 86K when posted as a hint? Too many questions ... Too many answers.


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