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May I just say, the control system quick start guide refrences attaching wires to a "shank". I would not throw out my Prison oriented game just yet!

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I doubt that there will be water anywhere in the task. Water+ electronics do not mix, especially when people are handling them.

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What about him???

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nooooooooooooooooo....

you messed up the screen size

lol

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Well, if the water is ultrapure(lacking salts) then water is acualy a realy good insulator, but I agree that it probaly wont be a game which water is involved. Mostly because of how hard it would be to keep the water ultrapure...

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True, but the second a robot hits the water, the purity of the water is compromised... even if there's no grease or metal filings, the oils from the hands that touched it would contaminate it... and then you have circuts frying!!! (Always fun!)

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Alright so the fish in the picture is called a sunfish and this same fish in Portuguese is called a peixe lua which means "moon fish". Now this implies that there is sun and moon... this could lead to the assumption that the sun and the moon is inferring to light and dark which could lead that it may be based on inferred trackers.

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MAybe we're tracking another light this year (perhaps not green this time..perhaps an infrared light trackign system?)

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As has already been well established, this hint is a photo of a "moonfish", with the operative words here being "moon" and "fish". Of these, I feel that "moon" is probably the more significant. In fact, the second half of the clue, "fish", is most likely a "red herring" (pun definitely intended) designed solely (pun again, not really intended) to draw allusions to the fabled "water game".

That's why I'd like to see more discussion about how "moon" could be a relevant clue. Many people have suggested a "lunar surface" for the gamefield. But why stop there? There countless other aspects about moons as well. For example:

1) Moons are "satellites". They travel in elliptical orbits around a central object.
2) Moons exert a gravitational tug on the body they orbit. Our moon effects the oceans, causing the tides. (Ooh! More allusions to a "water game"!)
3) Moons pass through multiple phases (waxing/waning, gibbous/crescent, full/half/quarter, etc.).
3) The etymology of the term "moon" shares the same root as the word "month".
4) The length of a lunar month is 29.53 days, or roughly 29 or 30 days.
5) Moons are integral components of eclipses (both lunar eclipses and solar eclipses) in which the view of one object is obscured by the alignment with another.
6) The goal of NASA's "Apollo" program was to land a man on the moon.
7) Many lunar dieties exist, such as Selene, Diana, Luna, etc.
8) Our moon has many features known as "lunar maria" (Latin for "seas"), such as the "Mare Tranquillitatis" or "Sea of Tranquility". (Whattayaknow? More "water game" clues!)
9) Folklore says lycanthropes (werewolves) transform from human into a wolf-like creature during a full moon.
10) Many expressions involve the word "moon", such as "Once in a blue moon", "The man in the moon", etc.
11) The moon is made of green cheese. Or so I'm told. ;)
12) And the list goes on and on...

Personally, for this clue, I like the significance of item #4 above the best. Firstly, news of this Hint #1 broke on Thursday 12/4 and it was officially released on Friday 12/5. Exactly 1 lunar cycle before kick-off. Coincidence? Yeah, probably. But very convenient, nonetheless. :)

Secondly, consider the idea that our moon's lunar month is roughly 30 days. Or better still, "30 units of time". Now, instead of "days", think "seconds". "30 seconds". Could this clue be a hint that this year's autonomous period will be extended to "30 seconds"? What better way to show off the capabilities of the new controller and LabView software than to put greater emphasis on the autonomous operation of the robots?

In fact, this summer I and a group of other FIRST competitors had the opportunity to meet Woodie Flowers at a National Instruments conference. One of the first questions he asked the group was if we would like to see more time given to the autonomous portion of the competition. In light of the above speculation about the clue, that question now seems a bit more prescient.

But then again, what do I know? This is all pure speculation and wild, baseless conjecture. Maybe the clue just means that "moons travel in orbits" and "fish travel together in schools" and that the competition will be various schools teaming up and driving in circles around the playing field. Nah. That's just silly. Surely, FIRST would never think of creating ridiculous a competition where everybody just drives around the arena like it was a race track, now would they? ;)

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this could be hinted to a free for all match and no teams

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hey i wonder if this wild idea means it'll be another one of those years where all the teams are on one alliance. (I'd like to see a 4 alliance year maybe once)

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possibly but it could be inferred targets in the shape of fish that the robots have to pick up using a crane like a fishing pole with a magnet at the end to pick it up:ahh:

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I really hope that autonomous isn't extended. It tends to be the most boring part of a match, is really hard to get right, especially for small, newer teams (like mine!) and overall dosen't provide the excitement of human driven competition. That being said, you make a great deal of sense for this thread.

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btw this could be an extended auto period and inferred reading in this period

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when i looked up the information on the Opah is that there is little known about this species biology and etomology