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Zach Purser 10-12-2008 14:58

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780 posts and no one has mentioned that moon-fish could represent the Dreamworks logo?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DreamWorks

Dreamworks first full-length feature was Antz. Ants work together. Consider our control system this year.

Beta Version 10-12-2008 15:56

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Originally Posted by johnr (Post 781910)
Location-- GDC underground secret war room
"Alright people,we got the game. Now how do we drive them into a feeding frenzy?"
"Well,part of the game is to stick your apponent with that thing."
"Good,good. Lets work with that."
"Hmmm,put on the them,stick on them, give to them."
"Give to them? You know, there is this fish your suppose to give away if you catch it. I think it's called moonfish."
"Great. Find ,post and let's call it a night."

Game---- Hot Potato

You Win the thread

roboraven15 10-12-2008 17:00

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Originally Posted by Zach Purser (Post 781988)
780 posts and no one has mentioned that moon-fish could represent the Dreamworks logo?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DreamWorks

Dreamworks first full-length feature was Antz. Ants work together. Consider our control system this year.

thats not a bad idea really... but doesn't tell us anything definite about game just working together...

bobwrit 10-12-2008 17:08

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Originally Posted by Zach Purser (Post 781988)
780 posts and no one has mentioned that moon-fish could represent the Dreamworks logo?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DreamWorks

Dreamworks first full-length feature was Antz. Ants work together. Consider our control system this year.

Nice Idea. The intoduction of the new control system at the 2008 championships pointed out robots working together.

Zach Purser 10-12-2008 17:09

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Originally Posted by roboraven15 (Post 782035)
thats not a bad idea really... but doesn't tell us anything definite about game just working together...

The clues never really tell you anything useful. The past couple years it was the start/finish line for the Boston marathon and a "Just Shoot Me" reference.

Elgin Clock 10-12-2008 17:13

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Originally Posted by Zach Purser (Post 782039)
The clues never really tell you anything useful. The past couple years it was the start/finish line for the Boston marathon and a "Just Shoot Me" reference.

Was that sarcasm??

I believe a start/finish line indicated a race type game & the Just Shoot Me reference indicated a shooting game.
Those are VERY relevant & were key elements of the game.

Fish... I'm not so sure about.

roboraven15 10-12-2008 17:16

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Originally Posted by Zach Purser (Post 782039)
The clues never really tell you anything useful. The past couple years it was the start/finish line for the Boston marathon and a "Just Shoot Me" reference.

start amd finish of boston marathon definatly hints a race, so ya that hint makes more sense.

but ya... hindsight better than foresight watch this clue be obvious when we actually get game.

Zach Purser 10-12-2008 17:17

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Originally Posted by Elgin Clock (Post 782042)
Was that sarcasm??

I believe a start/finish line indicated a race type game & the Just Shoot Me reference indicated a shooting game.
Those are VERY relevant & were key elements of the game.

Fish... I'm not so sure about.

I guess useful is a relative term. Robots communicating with one another may be an essential element of the game, but I can hardly start building a robot based on that little piece of information.

TeknicllyInsane 10-12-2008 17:31

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Anyone remember that old saying, the big fish eats the little fish? This might be a bit abstract, but then again, what isn't on these game hint threads?
For a while there was a trend of platforms or special bonus areas that you wanted to end up in . . . maybe this year, you get bonus points for caging your alliance-mate's robot? Or maybe even some other use of cages?
IDK where that came from, but there's my input for the day. :cool:

nevereverregret 10-12-2008 17:41

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I am putting together all of my information and theroys on the FISH and other meaning and connections. I'll probally be finshed later tonight... Its already a page long... :P ... I know I'm obssesed but I absoluelty love this stuff, I am determined to figure it out, Just so I can say i did:yikes:...

RoboGeek99 10-12-2008 18:02

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Originally Posted by nevereverregret (Post 782055)
I am putting together all of my information and theroys on the FISH and other meaning and connections. I'll probally be finshed later tonight... Its already a page long... :P ... I know I'm obssesed but I absoluelty love this stuff, I am determined to figure it out, Just so I can say i did:yikes:...

i think im gona give up on this thread...yeah right im adicted to the thread but im fresh out of ideas so i think ill just read and coment but my brain is mush by the end of this thread

ebarker 10-12-2008 18:07

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Robotic Sushi Maker !!! Oooohh yeaaa !!!

nevereverregret 10-12-2008 18:19

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:D wow... Okay so I have been obsessing over this so I figured I'd post what I found out. If anyone sees anything I didn’t please let me know!!! I don’t know everything or even close to it!!! Also I know I have posted this before but I edited it and added a lot of information and I figured I’d make it easier and put it all in one place. THANKS!!!
Well as we all know it’s called an OPAH fish :rolleyes:, its scientific name is lampris guttatus, and there are only two living species in the genus lampris (which in Greek means brilliant or clear). FIRST is calling it by its nickname moonfish, we know this because the picture as of the time it was posted was only found on Google images as MOONFISH and not an opah fish. There are also two other fish with the nickname Moonfish, the American Spade Fish and the Diamond Fish, spades and diamonds. Cards anyone? Maybe we need to fool other teams like a poker face or something.
A strange fact about the fish I found was that it is found in the southern oceans and won’t cross the 34th parallel North. So I am thinking maybe we cannot cross a certain line and maybe we have to place something over the line ect. The fish is also a very rare fish to be caught in groups. It travels alone but sometimes with groups of tuna. They are regularly caught by deep line fishermen near Hawaii. Maybe we will be one on one or maybe there are special pieces we have to obtain and keep from our opponents for points since the fish only come alone. (like keep away). Tying together the two Ideas as a game, maybe there is a line we cannot cross but we must receive something past the line that is worth a lot of points. Maybe something moving or hung up that we need to use a claw to reach.
The median & fins of the fish are bright vermillion, which is an orange-is red pigment. Vermillion (HgS) is naturally produced by reacting mercury with sulfur. Vermillion- RBG (227, 66, 52) HSV (5%, 77%, 89%) Hex Triplet #E34234. I was thinking maybe we could take those numbers and change them into there letters (the ones on phones). It would be E 3(def) 4(ghi) 2(abc) 3(def) and 4(ghi), if anyone sees a patter or words within those letters please let me know. It could possibly be in a different language. It is harmful when in contact with skin, and is toxic if swallowed or inhaled, this might mean that we have to keep away from something and we lose points if we touch it ect. Its molar mass is 232.66 g mol -1, its density is 8.10g cm-3, its melting point is 583.5C and its boiling point is unknown. If any of those numbers mean anything to anyone please let me know.
The fish is also deeply keeled, and compressed. The body is slightly blue grading to rose on the belly, with white spots on the flanks. I cannot make a connection between the coloring and a game other then maybe there will be different colored game pieces. It also has 4 different colored skins, one along its backbone that is orangish flesh, one type on the belly that is pink, on e on the fish’s cheeks that is dark red, and another type that is bright ruby red or liver colored on the breastplate. . This could mean that maybe its 4 on 4. Or again maybe it’s every man for himself and 1V1V1V1, with four teams on the field at a time. This would be very hard though considering how the fields were set up last year. They would have to make a lot of changes to the design... :cool:
The flesh of the fish is very stringy and hard to fillet. Maybe the game piece will be hard to hold or it'll be hard to get off the robot, like a magnet?... any ideas with that fact please let me know! Another thing about the game piece is that the fish is very large flat and kind of ugly.. lol shape of the game piece? Like a football shape?
:yikes: Another thing is the symbolic meaning of the fish or water maybe not the fish itself. Water has a symbolic meaning of depth of knowledge, it contains all the mysteries of the deep. We never know what’s at the bottom of the ocean. Maybe there will be a black out session where we rely totally on sensors?, and cannot see?... Fish on the other hand has a lot of meanings. It means fertility eternity creativity femininity good luck happiness knowledge and transformation. Transformation is the only one I could make a connection with. Maybe there are moving objects on the field we need to avoid. That in my option would be awesome.. But with the new control system I am not sure if they would do that. They could also make this the autonomous mode where the robot has to move around the track and detect the moving parts and go around them?..
I also do not believe, although they are absolutely awesome and creative, that Lampris Guttatus used in an anagram will give us a hint to the game. I really wish they would but there are about 66669 of them. I am not sure if they would make us really figure that one out… But who knows? I am going to keep looking into that because I love them.
Also dream works logo… It’s a MOON with a guy FISHing… I know your probably thinking now im crazy, but someone brought this up. Their first full feature length film was antz. Guess what Antz do… they work together. So I am back to thinking that it’s going to be 4V4 because of the skin color.
The OPAH fish also makes a vertical migration along the seamounts near Hawaii in search of food. Maybe we will have to make a vertical movement to capture something. Like going up a ramp and getting something then going back down, or something of that sort. The fish also swims in a labriform. Labriform swimming is when the fish uses its small fin or flipper to move it’s self in a rowing motion. Maybe this year we have to move our robot in different angles or use different type o transportation, like tracks. Or that weird boot thing on the robot in the videos. J
The climate and areas they live in are pretty normal. They submerge approximately 100-400 meters deep and are found generally near Hawaii. There might be a difference in set up, like we are contained to a pacific area but need to get something or put something somewhere we cannot move to. it’s a far connection but hey it works right?
That’s all I can really think o right now… There must be something more but as of right now I have no idea. If anyone finds anything else please let me know! I know I’m missing a lot!!! Also please respond with what you think is right about my predictions and what’s wrong, sometimes when other people look through they see what others haven’t… THANKS!!!
PS. IF ANYTHING ELSE COMES UP PLEASE LET ME KNOW!!!!:ahh:

xnaut 10-12-2008 18:36

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Originally Posted by billbo911 (Post 781571)
So, how does that apply here?
I see no reason that the GDC would move away from that formula for game design and would make it more difficult for the least capable teams to at least contribute. I just don't see having a moon like playing surface supporting that goal. Although, without knowing the game nor the content of the KOP, what I just said is really only a SWAG.

i think that this does apply here, if you think deeper into what i said about the game pieces being in harder to reach places worth more points..... the newer teams could still get the less scoring points that maybe don't have any difficult terrain to speak of.... this would imply that, adding on to the game hint of the fish, we are going and getting somthing and bringing it back (like fishing). teams that are skilled in the art of chassis building (and driving) could get the harder to reach areas.
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On another note -- THE WATER GAME AIN'T HAPNIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
quoting from someone else that i'm to lazy to look up - it would be way to hard for first to have a water based game for setting up and taking down (also imagine the leaks.....)--- not that it isnt a cool idea but id rather have a non-water based game and not have to worry about waterproofing a >2000$ C-Rio and worrying about frying the entire board....

synth3tk 10-12-2008 18:38

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I'll wait for the Cliff Notes on that post, Sammy...


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