Dave's Signatures
 

Ok, so, I started posting about Dave's changing signatures in the Game Hint thread, but that's become so massive I think that its time to give his signatures a thread of their own. So far we have:

I haven't been keeping track of the time interval between the changes, so I'm hoping that's not important. Although knowing Dave it very well could be. :rolleyes:

Anyways, any thoughts on the significance of this seemingly random pattern?

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Very interesting. They all rhyme (not sure if I can call it iambic pentameter...).

Just thinking out loud:

Notice that the first four start with 'To' while the last two start with 'For'.
'To' when pronounced phonetically, can be the number 2.
'For' when pronounced phonetically, can be the number 4.

So that makes:
25, 26, 23, 24, 45, 46.



Anybody want to do anything with this idea?

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Dave was doing this last year as well. I don't think there's anything game-related there, unless there's a common element.

His trailing dot caused comment for a couple years, before he revealed that he liked white space between his post and his signature. But something removes excess whitespace at the end of posts, so he puts a period there to keep it.

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I would go with them being crossword clues (the numbers referring to the number of letters). However, I'm horrible at crosswords. Can anyone help me out here?

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I think I'd like to buy a lotto ticket.

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Ding Ding Ding, you hit the jackpot. I think I will also, lets split this one. Did last years signature change mean anything, sorry for the stupid question. I have no clue?

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I think Dave's signatures mean that it's going to be a water game.

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Last year he did the same thing with the numbers it referred to the number of teams who received nasa grants and said "thank you."

That being said it is a good reminder to make sure you thank your sponsors, NASA or otherwise. A letter on team stationary goes a long way but if you really want to impress, take a team photo and put it in a frame signed by all the members and send that along with a thank you letter and a few team shirts. It is small gestures from teams that will make your sponsors want to continue their support of your team and FIRST in general.

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I am waiting to see what Dave posts in here.

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You're just gonna get a heaping healthy dose of coy with a side of snark. Would you like ketchup with that?

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Snark rhymes with shark. :rolleyes:

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My guess is that it is a game hint. I think it means that there are going to be teams switching alliances mid match, with it all ending in a 6 vs. 0 with everyone trying to score bonus points.

Just a thought.

-EOB

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25, 26, 23, 24
45, 46

any one wanna bet the next two will be 43 and 44

25, 26, 23, 24
45, 46, 43, 44

then the next series could be..

65, 66, 63, 64

maybe something with intervals of 20...
or something with 2 sets of 1 [since the first 2 and the last 2 the difference is 1] or even something with a pattern of 1, 3, 1 at intervals of 20.

I dunno, just kinda thinking out loud here....

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in letters those numbers come out to

be,bf,bc,bd,de,df


just a thought.......

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anybody try making words out of the letters u get when u dial the numbers into a cell phone?

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You might be on to something... But you LOSE your bet. (If you want to make it, then it's a dozen Krispy Kremes. I win.)

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You probably won't see any. Not everything is a game hint. Think about what Greg said for a moment. How many teams receive NASA grants each year? And we're averaging six formal thank yous per year? Pitiful. Plain pitiful.

How is it that so many team representatives have the time to run up the post count to astronomical levels in a game hint thread, while so few seem to have the time to say thank you for a $6K gift that funds the ability to play the game? I know not everyone here is a NASA grant team, but c'mon - something's out of balance. I'd be happier if I saw less game speculation and a three digit number in Dave's signature.

By all means have fun with game hints, but let's be a grateful community that knows how to spend valuable time.

namaste

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well said sir!



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lol, well if he decides to come to San Diego this year i know where the only one is and its only about 10 min from the arena. I could easily stock the volunteers lounge. *wink* *wink* Dave lol

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Afraid I won't make SD this year--I've got an Aero Design competition in Encino that Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. (Hey, if you want to come on up and watch that on Sunday...) Try L.A. instead.

You do know why you'd lose--He's got to start with the word "Six", instead of "To" of "For". I don't see Dave doing that.

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In keeping with the "Ship, captain and crew" game (full explanation in my post (or the page it's on) in the "Game Hint #1" thread) I have a few interpretations:

This could mean something like: "When you get a 6, you get your ship".

Also, with this statement:

Six could refer back to the "ship", and integrity could mean it doesn't leak.

For this:

Five could refer to the captain, who keeps his crew alive.

And:

Could refer to the crew (A four) loading up the ship.


- Austin

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*sigh*

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Is reading a skill we have to teach FIRSTers as well? :rolleyes:

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Y'all, I just have to say I feel pretty sorry for Dave. Everyone's always watching his every move to see if ANYTHING he says has any glimmer of a game hint.

That said, I'm not sure this idea holds much water.
;)




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(gotcha! see? I can do it too!)

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I've been thinking about this all day. Is this true? Of the many many teams that receive NASA grants each year, do only six remember to say thank you? :( Yep, that's pitiful, plain pitiful.

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Yes,to my knowledge it's true. I know it was true last year - six total. I also know that if this year's number is the same there's time to make that number much higher.

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Taken from Dave on Facebook

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Good point, we all think that Mr Lavery is some sort of super genius who encodes game hints into everything he says. While I am sure he finds it flattering that we think his grasp on English is that good and he is that smart I would have to say that sometimes a wise word is just that. Sometimes we just can't see the forest for the trees.

This is among the most depressing, and sickening, things I have ever read. 283 * 6000 = 1.7 Million. 1.6 Million of that is essentially going to teams who obviously don't know the value of it. You guys, say thanks for what NASA gave you. Actually say thank you to what anyone gives you. You never know, it might just help keep them as a partner.

Jane, if you are lurking in this thread somewhere, I believe you should post what prompted that comment from Dave on CD as well.

Remember everyone, FIRST is NOT about winning, it is NOT about the robots. We are trying to change the culture for the better. Away from athletes who try to win at all costs, away from coaches cursing out referees because of a bad call. How can we change such large things if we don't even have time to write a thank you note?

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This is a long note that I wrote in FB last evening. It all started with 1 very simple compliment yesterday in a ChiefDelphi pm:

I wrote this note in my head while sitting in traffic and admiring the beautiful Christmas lights popping up everywhere, making the note both pleasing to head-write and frustrating to think about. What inspired this note was a simple pm exchange with a mentor in FIRST. I had made a very simple compliment not expecting any response to it. To my surprise, he did respond and said that it was already Thursday and this was the first nice thing that had been said to him all week.

This was after reading a thread that was posted in ChiefDelphi about the meaning of Dave Lavery's changing lines in his signature section. Although it had been stated that the changes had to do with thank-yous sent to NASA by grateful recipients, several posters seemingly skipped over that information and moved on to other things such as continuing to guess that the changes were hints/clues to the 2009 game.

So - between these two things, I started thinking about our society as it is today. This is one of my favorite topics to think about, read about, discuss, and shake my head at. The adjective that popped into my head was: lazy.'That's a funny adjective', I thought. Usually, I think in terms of callous, fractured, selfish, pig-headed - but not necessarily 'lazy' as the first adjective when I think about current society.

If we are to the point that even in our families, we are not taking the time to shine light and love on our spouse, our child, our niece, our parent, our aging grandparent with a gentle compliment or a kind remark - and it gets to Thursday - then shame on us. If in our workplace or school, we get to Thursday without catching a boss or an employee or a fellow worker, teacher, or student, being good or doing something right or brave or innovative or kind - then shame on us. If we make it to Thursday without telling the reflection in the mirror that we look nice or we tried really hard today or that color makes our eyes sparkle - then shame on us.

We've gotten lazy. And that's a shame. The generations before us worked too hard for us to be lazy. Our grandparents labored so that their children could do better. And their children labored so that their children could have better. And many of us have and we are frittering it away and our children don't or won't necessarily understand the power of kindness or compliments or thank-yous because maybe just maybe they can't google them. That is a tongue-in-cheek remark but I believe there is truth to it. If your butt gets numb because you haven't gotten up from your computer in a while, hello - go for a walk. Outside. To the mailbox - to send a note to someone telling them you are thinking of them. If your blackberry is in your palm, type something kind and send it.

My mom is very proud of the fact that she found some red roses to attach to her name when she sends me an e-mail. Those little red roses are something that I miss when a day or two goes by and I haven't heard from her. My entire life, she has written me letters and would give them to me sharing thoughts, love, support, comfort, wisdom. When she discovered that e-mail could connect the distance between us, she was delighted and quickly found a way to make it more personal and loving. Supportive. She is not lazy. She is thoughtful and takes that extra moment to create magic. She is 80.

So, these are my thoughts tonight: we're lazy and we waste opportunities to make a difference in matters of thoughtfulness, kindness, and attitude. We waste opportunities to put our best foot forward, to shine, and to help others shine when they look inside themselves.

Thursdays are going to be a special day for me, I think. I'll see them as a marker to gauge myself with a little check box. Hopefully, the box will have been checked off no later than Monday - telling me that I did indeed share a kind word or an encouraging one or one of support. That mentor gives something of himself every single day. I see it reflected in his generous contributions to ChiefDelphi yet he made it all the way to Thursday without one word of appreciation given to him.

Yup. When I tell my dog, Squirt, this - she is not going to understand it at all. She'll say, 'lazy humans', and wag her tail anyway.

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That was the note. I hope that Dave and my mentor-friend do not mind this post. :)

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Dr. James Green
Director, Planetary Systems Division
Science Missions Directorate
NASA Headquarters
300 E Street, SW
Washington DC 20546

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I'm pretty sure that I mentioned Dave and Mark here:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...0&postcount=18 .

It's important to note that if any team is going to send "a" thank you note that it needs to go to Dr. Green. I suggested Mark and Dave in addition to that note, but not as a replacement for. :)

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It is now Once six, now seven - like manna from heaven. Any ideas?

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Yeah, I would say another team sent in a thank you letter for their NASA grant.

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So I see the James Green address, but is that where we can also send notes of thanks to Dave and Mark Leon? Are all three at the same location?