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Jonathan Norris 15-12-2008 16:07

Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Last year we saw match footage from 32/42 (76%) Regionals, which was an increase over the previous year. But we can do better. It is still my goal to see every match of every Regional recorded, every year it gets easier and easier to do, and I think this is the year that anyone can do it. To make this happen I am going to look for a team of two other people to help me organize this. Our job will be to organize volunteers for every regional, spread the required information about uploading the video, share the information about how to record and parse the video, remind volunteers to record and upload the video, and organize the parsing of the video if required. If you are interested in helping me out, please PM or email me.

If you are interested in voluteering to record a regional please state so in this thread, and feel free to add your name to this list. I ask anyone willing to help me keep track of this list just update it by copying the last one, adding the new names, and pasting it into your post surrounded by "["CODE"]" text... "["/CODE"]" without the quotes.

Code:

Regional                                          Volunteer
Week 1
BAE Systems Granite State Regional
Buckeye Regional   
Greater Kansas City Regional
Midwest Regional
New Jersey Regional
Oklahoma City Regional
Washington DC Regional

Week 2
Boston Regional
Finger Lakes Regional                         
Oregon Regional
San Diego Regional 
New York City Regional

Week 3
Dallas Regional
Florida Regional
Los Angeles Regional     
Peachtree Regional
Pittsburgh Regional
Silicon Valley Regional   
Wisconsin Regional

Week 4
Israel Regional 
Arizona Regional
Bayou Regional
Boilermaker Regional   
Chesapeake Regional
NASA / VCU Regional
Philadelphia Regional
St. Louis Regional
Waterloo Regional                            Jonathan Norris (2809)                     

Week 5
Colorado Regional
Connecticut Regional
Greater Toronto Regional                    Jonathan Norris (2809)
Hawaii Regional
Las Vegas Regional
Lone Star Regional   
Microsoft Seattle Regional
Palmetto Regional
Sacramento Regional
SBPLI Long Island Regional

Week 6
Michigan State Championship
Minnesota 10000 Regional
Minnesota North Star Regional

How To Record
This is the most often asked question, and finnaly I have a simple answer for everyone. the Pinnacle Video Transfer, its a $99 ($95 on amazon, I've seen it for $70 on ebay) device that records a component video and audio input right to an external hard drive at the push of a button in glorious h.264.

If you are looking for a more low cost solution (requiring a computer, and someone to watch the computer..) check out last year's thread.

As for where to capture the video from, FIRST at all its Regionals provides a station with about 20 outputs where you can hook right into the main scoreboard video feed. We prefer this feed over you recording the matches with a camcorder, FIRST hires a professional company at every regional to tape the matches.

Parsing and Cutting Up the Video Into Individual Matches
If you really don't have time to do this after recording a regional, please contact us and we will instruct you where to upload the raw video.

This can be done with whatever video editing program you would like, every windows machine comes with windows movie maker (I think Vista does... I'm a mac user) and every Mac comes with iMovie. As for the output video and naming standards please see below!

Standards for Parsing:
  • DO NOT include the announcers introduction, we are just looking for the robot action.
  • End the video once the play has stopped, if you like you can cut in the final score (this is a bit of a pain, and TBA already has it listed on their site anyway).

Video Format Standards
  • Format: MPEG4 or H264 (.mp4, .mpv, or .mov are all acceptable containers). WMV is acceptable, but for reasons explained below not favored
  • File Size: 15-25 Mb per file, this roughly a bitrate of: 1000-1250 kb/s, with an audio bitrate of: 128 kb/s.
  • Video Resolution: recommended 640X480, acceptable 320X240
  • HTTP Streaming: when encoding the video to its final format of MPEG4 or h264 enable http streaming (for most encoders it will be an option). This will allow anyone with a smart phone, iPhone, or iPod touch to stream the matches and watch them directly on their handset. :cool:

Naming Standards
Check out this post from last year for naming standards

as for uploading you will be contacted by myself or one of the other volunteers helping me with detail of how to upload it to The Blue Alliance (TBA) and SOAP.

I am sure the TBA and SOAP people will chime in at some point with their plans for this season.

=Martin=Taylor= 15-12-2008 20:04

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Code:

Regional                                          Volunteer
Week 1
BAE Systems Granite State Regional
Buckeye Regional   
Greater Kansas City Regional
Midwest Regional
New Jersey Regional
Oklahoma City Regional
Washington DC Regional

Week 2
Boston Regional
Finger Lakes Regional                         
Oregon Regional
San Diego Regional 
New York City Regional

Week 3
Dallas Regional
Florida Regional
Los Angeles Regional     
Peachtree Regional
Pittsburgh Regional
Silicon Valley Regional                  Martin Taylor (100)
Wisconsin Regional

Week 4
Israel Regional 
Arizona Regional
Bayou Regional
Boilermaker Regional   
Chesapeake Regional
NASA / VCU Regional
Philadelphia Regional
St. Louis Regional
Waterloo Regional                            Jonathan Norris (2809)                     

Week 5
Colorado Regional
Connecticut Regional
Greater Toronto Regional                    Jonathan Norris (2809)
Hawaii Regional
Las Vegas Regional
Lone Star Regional   
Microsoft Seattle Regional
Palmetto Regional
Sacramento Regional                              Martin Taylor (100)
SBPLI Long Island Regional

Week 6
Michigan State Championship
Minnesota 10000 Regional
Minnesota North Star Regional

Yeah I don't know about this whole "video capture thing"....

Me and my family have been planing to bring a hard-disk camera (24 hours of memory) and record the matches. We'll take turns turning it on and off. We'll set up a stationary tri-pod with a good view of the feild.

We did this for the offseason event Cal-Games and it seemed to work pretty well. Saved me the trouble of editing footage (I can't believe people actually do that... you guys must be VERY dedicated :eek:).

I'll be doing Davis and SVR

Yeah about those Cal-Games vids... I don't see them!!! Greg!!! :mad:

AdamHeard 15-12-2008 20:21

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Norris (Post 784059)
End the video once the play has stopped, if you like you can cut in the final score (this is a bit of a pain, and TBA already has it listed on their site anyway).

As a viewer of match videos, I find it very annoying when the score is not shown on the video. Sometimes TBA is wrong, sometimes it is blank, sometimes you're watching a video elsewhere.

Now, I know I'm contributing 0 work and asking people to do more... but please :D

NickE 15-12-2008 20:25

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Would it be a better idea just to upload it to Youtube?
With their new "Watch in HD" feature and a 1 GB per video cap, it provides virtually unlimited space, allowing for excellent quality.

If every match was uploaded in full HD (ideal situation), and was just over 300mb each, that would add up to almost a petabyte of video footage. (42 events x 70 matches each on average)

All I'm saying is instead of having The Blue Alliance host all of the videos themselves, why not let Youtube do it for them.
The youtube videos could even be embedded into the individual pages on TBA for convinience.

Jonathan Norris 15-12-2008 20:26

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hachiban VIII (Post 784193)
Yeah I don't know about this whole "video capture thing"....

Me and my family have been planing to bring a hard-disk camera (24 hours of memory) and record the matches. We'll take turns turning it on and off. We'll set up a stationary tri-pod with a good view of the feild.

We did this for the offseason event Cal-Games and it seemed to work pretty well. Saved me the trouble of editing footage (I can't believe people actually do that... you guys must be VERY dedicated :eek:).

I'll be doing Davis and SVR

Yeah about those Cal-Games vids... I don't see them!!! Greg!!! :mad:

I would have to say for the purposes of online viewing a recording of the FIRST video feed is preferred. Mainly because they are able to get many camera angles, include real time scoring, team numbers, match number, match time, and match results. It just works much better to have the FIRST feed for online flash video viewing. But I guess we will take what we can.

As for parsing, it really doesn't take that long. I've got it down to maybe 2 hours per regional, and most of the time I am doing something else at the same time.

On another note I welcome multiple people to record each regional. It is a good backup, and we can organize the splitting of the parsing up between multiple people.

Jonathan Norris 15-12-2008 20:35

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NickE (Post 784210)
Would it be a better idea just to upload it to Youtube?
With their new "Watch in HD" feature and a 1 GB per video cap, it provides virtually unlimited space, allowing for excellent quality.

If every match was uploaded in full HD (ideal situation), and was just over 300mb each, that would add up to almost a petabyte of video footage. (42 events x 70 matches each on average)

All I'm saying is instead of having The Blue Alliance host all of the videos themselves, why not let Youtube do it for them.
The youtube videos could even be embedded into the individual pages on TBA for convinience.

Well if you find a solution that can record HD video cheaply, then go ahead. Another issue is that all we get from the FIRST feed is a simple component video and audio connection, no HD there. So until FIRST changes their video production to HD (or the companies that they hire do), then we won't be seeing HD video.

The thing that is great about TBA is how the system organizes the matches, and allows you to search a team number and pull up all their matches. I guess they could take a youtube link and embed it in their pages, but from the small understanding I have of the under-the-hood code that could take some re-working. But unlike youtube, you have the option on TBA to download each match in their higher quality format, and not just watch the smaller flash video recording.

Kyle Fenton 15-12-2008 20:37

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Code:

Regional                                          Volunteer
Week 1
BAE Systems Granite State Regional              Kyle Fenton (121)
Buckeye Regional   
Greater Kansas City Regional
Midwest Regional
New Jersey Regional
Oklahoma City Regional
Washington DC Regional

Week 2
Boston Regional
Finger Lakes Regional                         
Oregon Regional
San Diego Regional 
New York City Regional

Week 3
Dallas Regional
Florida Regional
Los Angeles Regional     
Peachtree Regional
Pittsburgh Regional
Silicon Valley Regional                  Martin Taylor (100)
Wisconsin Regional

Week 4
Israel Regional 
Arizona Regional
Bayou Regional
Boilermaker Regional   
Chesapeake Regional
NASA / VCU Regional
Philadelphia Regional
St. Louis Regional
Waterloo Regional                            Jonathan Norris (2809)                     

Week 5
Colorado Regional
Connecticut Regional
Greater Toronto Regional                    Jonathan Norris (2809)
Hawaii Regional
Las Vegas Regional
Lone Star Regional   
Microsoft Seattle Regional
Palmetto Regional
Sacramento Regional                              Martin Taylor (100)/D Green (701)
SBPLI Long Island Regional

Week 6
Michigan State Championship
Minnesota 10000 Regional
Minnesota North Star Regional

Sign me up for the BAE GSR Regional.
Quick Question, last year The Blue Alliance (TBA) used a flash based format & SOAP 108 mainly used WMVs. Are they both going to switch over to a MPEG-4 format this year?

Quote:

As a viewer of match videos, I find it very annoying when the score is not shown on the video. Sometimes TBA is wrong, sometimes it is blank, sometimes you're watching a video elsewhere.

Now, I know I'm contributing 0 work and asking people to do more... but please
This is actually quite a time consuming task to do. This requires to parse out the middle by aligning the player heads between the end of the match and the score. When you have 100+ matches, it becomes really time consuming and ultimately not worth it.

Doug G 15-12-2008 20:39

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hachiban VIII (Post 784193)
Code:

Regional                                          Volunteer
Week 1
BAE Systems Granite State Regional
Buckeye Regional   
Greater Kansas City Regional
Midwest Regional
New Jersey Regional
Oklahoma City Regional
Washington DC Regional

Week 2
Boston Regional
Finger Lakes Regional                         
Oregon Regional
San Diego Regional 
New York City Regional

Week 3
Dallas Regional
Florida Regional
Los Angeles Regional     
Peachtree Regional
Pittsburgh Regional
Silicon Valley Regional                  Martin Taylor (100)
Wisconsin Regional

Week 4
Israel Regional 
Arizona Regional
Bayou Regional
Boilermaker Regional   
Chesapeake Regional
NASA / VCU Regional
Philadelphia Regional
St. Louis Regional
Waterloo Regional                            Jonathan Norris (2809)                     

Week 5
Colorado Regional
Connecticut Regional
Greater Toronto Regional                    Jonathan Norris (2809)
Hawaii Regional
Las Vegas Regional
Lone Star Regional   
Microsoft Seattle Regional
Palmetto Regional
Sacramento Regional                              Martin Taylor (100)/D Green (701)
SBPLI Long Island Regional

Week 6
Michigan State Championship
Minnesota 10000 Regional
Minnesota North Star Regional


Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Norris (Post 784211)
On another note I welcome multiple people to record each regional. It is a good backup, and we can organize the splitting of the parsing up between multiple people.

I'll help with the Sac feed - I did it back in 2007. Having more the one person responsible for the parsing would be great. I'd be willing to parse Friday matches and maybe Martin would do the Saturday matches?

Vikesrock 15-12-2008 20:46

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NickE (Post 784210)
Would it be a better idea just to upload it to Youtube?
With their new "Watch in HD" feature and a 1 GB per video cap, it provides virtually unlimited space, allowing for excellent quality.

If every match was uploaded in full HD (ideal situation), and was just over 300mb each, that would add up to almost a petabyte of video footage. (42 events x 70 matches each on average)

All I'm saying is instead of having The Blue Alliance host all of the videos themselves, why not let Youtube do it for them.
The youtube videos could even be embedded into the individual pages on TBA for convinience.

Storage space is not the only barrier to full HD video. First the feed that you are pulling from is not HD (as far as i know at least). Second, the greater the resolution, the longer the encode times are for the videos.

I would definitely have to hear what others think about this, especially the TBA and SOAP folks before I hop on-board.

EDIT: I also just went and checked out YouTube's Batch Uploader, from what I can see it requires a title and description be entered for every upload. For the 95 videos my team archived from the MN regional last year the extra effort would become significant. I will be testing the upload speed of the batch uploader shortly to see if that would be a factor as well.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug G (Post 784229)
I'll help with the Sac feed - I did it back in 2007. Having more the one person responsible for the parsing would be great. I'd be willing to parse Friday matches and maybe Martin would do the Saturday matches?

I would be glad to help parse any regionals if the person recording doesn't have time to do so. This is a tentative commitment based on availability, but I did parse quite a few this past year so they don't really take me all that long.

Kyle Fenton 15-12-2008 20:57

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 784235)
Storage space is not the only barrier to full HD video. First the feed that you are pulling from is not HD (as far as i know at least). Second, the greater the resolution, the longer the encode times are for the videos.

I would definitely have to hear what others think about this, especially the TBA and SOAP folks before I hop on-board.

Vikesrock,

Your right. We are years away for being able to get HD video (even 720p) onto websites for free. Besides the bandwidth and storage problems, the fact is that most average computers these days can't handle MPEG-4 HD that well. FIRST doesn't even have widescreen SD (16:9 ratio) available in its feeds.

Jonathan Norris 15-12-2008 21:09

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle Fenton (Post 784225)
Quick Question, last year The Blue Alliance (TBA) used a flash based format & SOAP 108 mainly used WMVs. Are they both going to switch over to a MPEG-4 format this year?

Actually TBA takes whatever the uploader gives us, and we then encode it to flash. Last year it was about 50-50 MPEG-4 vs. WMV, I am hoping to see more MPEG-4 this year. If I can convince people to enable http streaming when encoding MPEG-4 or h.264, we can all have FIRST matches streamed to our smartphones/iPhones/iPods.

I'll see if I have time over the break to set up a script to convert .wmv to h.264 with my ubuntu box. Then maybe I can just rip everything on TBA to h.264, so once someone builds a nice iPhone app (the mobile TBA site works well enough...), we can see matches on our iPhones and iPods.

Code:

Regional                                          Volunteer
Week 1
BAE Systems Granite State Regional        Kyle Fenton (121)
Buckeye Regional   
Greater Kansas City Regional
Midwest Regional
New Jersey Regional
Oklahoma City Regional
Washington DC Regional

Week 2
Boston Regional
Finger Lakes Regional                         
Oregon Regional
San Diego Regional 
New York City Regional

Week 3
Dallas Regional
Florida Regional
Los Angeles Regional     
Peachtree Regional
Pittsburgh Regional
Silicon Valley Regional                  Martin Taylor (100)
Wisconsin Regional

Week 4
Israel Regional 
Arizona Regional
Bayou Regional
Boilermaker Regional   
Chesapeake Regional
NASA / VCU Regional
Philadelphia Regional
St. Louis Regional
Waterloo Regional                        Jonathan Norris (2809)                     

Week 5
Colorado Regional
Connecticut Regional
Greater Toronto Regional                  Jonathan Norris (2809)
Hawaii Regional
Las Vegas Regional
Lone Star Regional   
Microsoft Seattle Regional
Palmetto Regional
Sacramento Regional                      Martin Taylor (100)/D Green (701)
SBPLI Long Island Regional

Week 6
Michigan State Championship
Minnesota 10000 Regional
Minnesota North Star Regional


=Martin=Taylor= 15-12-2008 21:56

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Norris (Post 784211)
I would have to say for the purposes of online viewing a recording of the FIRST video feed is preferred. Mainly because they are able to get many camera angles, include real time scoring, team numbers, match number, match time, and match results. It just works much better to have the FIRST feed for online flash video viewing. But I guess we will take what we can.

As for parsing, it really doesn't take that long. I've got it down to maybe 2 hours per regional, and most of the time I am doing something else at the same time.

On another note I welcome multiple people to record each regional. It is a good backup, and we can organize the splitting of the parsing up between multiple people.


IMO the camera angles are annoying. They often miss the action, and usually only focus on certain teams. Yes, those are usually the most exciting teams to watch... but what if you're showing vids to a sponsor?

"See!! See!! Right there? That was OUR robot! yes, yes I'll rewind it..."

As for matches, teams and scores I'll record those too.

We'll work something out Mr. G. Although I think splitting it between the two days is a good idea.

JamesByrne 16-12-2008 12:37

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Code:

Regional                                          Volunteer
Week 1
BAE Systems Granite State Regional        Kyle Fenton (121)
Buckeye Regional   
Greater Kansas City Regional
Midwest Regional
New Jersey Regional
Oklahoma City Regional
Washington DC Regional

Week 2
Boston Regional
Finger Lakes Regional                         
Oregon Regional                          James Byrne (360)
San Diego Regional 
New York City Regional

Week 3
Dallas Regional
Florida Regional
Los Angeles Regional     
Peachtree Regional
Pittsburgh Regional
Silicon Valley Regional                  Martin Taylor (100)
Wisconsin Regional

Week 4
Israel Regional 
Arizona Regional
Bayou Regional
Boilermaker Regional   
Chesapeake Regional
NASA / VCU Regional
Philadelphia Regional
St. Louis Regional
Waterloo Regional                        Jonathan Norris (2809)                     

Week 5
Colorado Regional
Connecticut Regional
Greater Toronto Regional                  Jonathan Norris (2809)
Hawaii Regional
Las Vegas Regional
Lone Star Regional   
Microsoft Seattle Regional                James Byrne (360)
Palmetto Regional
Sacramento Regional                      Martin Taylor (100)/D Green (701)
SBPLI Long Island Regional

Week 6
Michigan State Championship
Minnesota 10000 Regional
Minnesota North Star Regional

Also for anyone that is interested I have made a website that is run in php for doing this exact thing. I have a system set up that is very easy to implement and if you can get a internet connection at the regional you can almost have your videos up in real time. We are still doing the final testing of the system but we have so far tested it at FTC and FLL in WA. It has worked well and the feed back we are getting is positive.

Let me know if any one has and interest. I will be happy to go over how the system works or any questions.

Best of all I donate the server space and bandwidth, so there will be no cost besides the computer that will record the video (you can bring your personal computer if you want).

Dave Flowerday 16-12-2008 12:43

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Norris (Post 784223)
Another issue is that all we get from the FIRST feed is a simple component video and audio connection, no HD there.

Just a small correction for the benefit of people who may be thinking about doing this: FIRST provides a composite video connection, not component. You don't need component-capable hardware to record matches at an event (unless they change something this year, which I doubt).

soap108 12-01-2009 22:41

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
NYC: should be easy for me, being Fri-Sun.
LI: I'll list as maybe.
Any ideas how to get the Michigan districts?



Code:

Regional                                          Volunteer
Week 1
BAE Systems Granite State Regional        Kyle Fenton (121)
Buckeye Regional   
Greater Kansas City Regional
Midwest Regional
New Jersey Regional
Oklahoma City Regional
Washington DC Regional

Week 2
Boston Regional
Finger Lakes Regional                         
Oregon Regional                          James Byrne (360)
San Diego Regional 
New York City Regional                  Kenny Ardizzone

Week 3
Dallas Regional
Florida Regional
Los Angeles Regional     
Peachtree Regional
Pittsburgh Regional
Silicon Valley Regional                  Martin Taylor (100)
Wisconsin Regional

Week 4
Israel Regional 
Arizona Regional
Bayou Regional
Boilermaker Regional   
Chesapeake Regional
NASA / VCU Regional
Philadelphia Regional
St. Louis Regional
Waterloo Regional                        Jonathan Norris (2809)                     

Week 5
Colorado Regional
Connecticut Regional
Greater Toronto Regional                  Jonathan Norris (2809)
Hawaii Regional
Las Vegas Regional
Lone Star Regional   
Microsoft Seattle Regional                James Byrne (360)
Palmetto Regional
Sacramento Regional                      Martin Taylor (100)/D Green (701)
SBPLI Long Island Regional                Kenny Ardizzone, maybe

Week 6
Michigan State Championship
Minnesota 10000 Regional
Minnesota North Star Regional



Fyi- For an event to add HD capability the cost goes up considerably. It's not just the camera rental, but the mixers and other equipment behind the scenes have to be upgraded. I believe FIRST has only done this at the championship and for internal purposes. Never, to my knowledge, have they had an "hd breakout box" the way they've done so for composite. 640x480 capture has proved a nice balance between resolution and filesize.

Team 39 did HD on their own last year, i.e. from the stands. 1440x1080 @ 6.8Mbps. Files were abt 140MB. The problem I had though was playback on my laptop was very choppy- likely the disc not keeping up with the bitrate. My desktop however played ok.

All that being said, we will still toy with an HD solution this year, but it would be premature to expound as the kinks need to be worked out.

Regards,
KA :cool:


p.s. Thanks again Jonathan for your work on this!

Enigma's puzzle 12-01-2009 22:53

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Are you covering Districts??

Vikesrock 12-01-2009 23:00

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Enigma's puzzle (Post 799888)
Are you covering Districts??

Could someone familiar with the setup being used for the Michigan Districts chime in about whether the familiar video drop will be provided? I believe I remember reading that the A/V setup will be a bit different at these events, but I'm not really sure.

Mike AA 13-01-2009 10:57

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
I dont see why the a/v would be different for the michigan regionals. The regionals should still have a camera crew and they still will be mixing video to the main screen therefore there should be a location of connection for teams if not I am sure someone could just ASK.

-Mike AA

Kevin Sevcik 13-01-2009 11:52

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
I'll make sure my setup is actually recording properly this year....
Code:

Regional                                          Volunteer
Week 1
BAE Systems Granite State Regional        Kyle Fenton (121)
Buckeye Regional   
Greater Kansas City Regional
Midwest Regional
New Jersey Regional
Oklahoma City Regional
Washington DC Regional

Week 2
Boston Regional
Finger Lakes Regional                         
Oregon Regional                          James Byrne (360)
San Diego Regional 
New York City Regional                  Kenny Ardizzone

Week 3
Dallas Regional
Florida Regional
Los Angeles Regional     
Peachtree Regional                        Kevin Sevcik (57)
Pittsburgh Regional
Silicon Valley Regional                  Martin Taylor (100)
Wisconsin Regional

Week 4
Israel Regional 
Arizona Regional
Bayou Regional
Boilermaker Regional   
Chesapeake Regional
NASA / VCU Regional
Philadelphia Regional
St. Louis Regional
Waterloo Regional                        Jonathan Norris (2809)                     

Week 5
Colorado Regional
Connecticut Regional
Greater Toronto Regional                  Jonathan Norris (2809)
Hawaii Regional
Las Vegas Regional
Lone Star Regional                        Kevin Sevcik (57)
Microsoft Seattle Regional                James Byrne (360)
Palmetto Regional
Sacramento Regional                      Martin Taylor (100)/D Green (701)
SBPLI Long Island Regional                Kenny Ardizzone, maybe

Week 6
Michigan State Championship
Minnesota 10000 Regional
Minnesota North Star Regional


pentau 13-01-2009 14:55

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
I have still to ask the regional directors, but assuming the video drop is available, we will be recording Chesapeake and Washington D.C.

soap108 13-01-2009 18:03

2009 Event Abbreviations
 
Here is the update to last year's post:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...0&postcount=73

This one has the 2009 regionals.




For consistency and predictability sake, we have a preference in naming the movie files.

General Naming Rules
* Two or three character event abbreviation in lowercase, e.g. "fl"
* Underscore, "_"

* XOR:
Qualification: Use THREE digits, "001", "047", "108".
Elimination: Use "qf4m2", "sf2m1", "fm3"
Awards: Use "award_" + AwardDescription.
Opening: Use "openingremarks_" + "friday" or "saturday".
Closing: Use "closingremarks_" + "friday" or "saturday".
Else: any string that does not begin with "qf", "sf", "fm", or a digit.

* ".wmv" , ".mov", ".divx" , ".whatever"

Notes:
# Always use lowercase, please.
# No spaces in a filename, please.
# Sometimes a match gets replayed- name the one that counts in the standings as "fl_001.wmv". The one(s) that do NOT count, "fl_001bad1.wmv", "fl_001bad2.wmv", etc...

Abbreviations are as follows:
BAE SYSTEMS Granite State Regional NH
Buckeye Regional OH
Greater Kansas City Regional KC
Midwest Regional IL
New Jersey Regional NJ
Oklahoma City Regional OK
Washington DC Regional DC

Boston Regional MA
Finger Lakes Regional ROC
Oregon Regional OR
San Diego Regional SDC

New York City Regional NY

Dallas Regional DA
Florida Regional FL
Los Angeles Regional CA
Peachtree Regional GA
Pittsburgh Regional PIT
Silicon Valley Regional SJ
Wisconsin Regional WI

Israel Regional IS

Arizona Regional AZ
Bayou Regional LA
Boilermaker Regional IN
Chesapeake Regional MD
NASA / VCU Regional VA
Philadelphia Regional PA
St. Louis Regional MO
Waterloo Regional WAT

Colorado Regional CO
Connecticut Regional CT
Greater Toronto Regional ON
Hawaii Regional HI
Las Vegas Regional NV
Lone Star Regional TX
Microsoft Seattle Regional WA
Palmetto Regional SC
Sacramento Regional SAC
SBPLI Long Island Regional LI

Minnesota 10,000 Lakes Regional MN
Minnesota North Star Regional MN2


Michigan
Traverse City District GT
Kettering University District GG
Cass Tech District DT1
Lansing District GRL
Detroit District DT
West Michigan District MI
Troy District OC
Michigan State Championship GL



Many thanks,
KA :cool:

aksimhal 13-01-2009 19:35

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Hi,

Team 1123 can tape the Washington DC Regional...

Thanks Jonathan for coordinating this,
Anish

nikeairmancurry 13-01-2009 21:04

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
:D Well, this is something that I have been wanting to for a few years now. But, when I looked at your list, I do see that the Michigan District Events are not included right now. I would be willing to do hopefully two the district events and the State Championship.
I still need alittle more clarification on what, I would need to do, to record all the matches. So PM me with some more details to help :D

Vikesrock 15-01-2009 00:59

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Alright, 2175 will be taking care of the 2 MN regionals.

I also added the Michigan District events to the list. I assumed that the districts you might cover would be the ones 326 is attending Nicholas.
Code:

Regional                                          Volunteer
Week 1
BAE Systems Granite State Regional        Kyle Fenton (121)
Buckeye Regional   
Greater Kansas City Regional
Midwest Regional
New Jersey Regional
Oklahoma City Regional
Washington DC Regional                    Will (449)/Anish(1123)
MI - Traverse City

Week 2
Boston Regional
Finger Lakes Regional                         
Oregon Regional                          James Byrne (360)
San Diego Regional 
New York City Regional                    Kenny Ardizzone
MI - Kettering

Week 3
Dallas Regional
Florida Regional
Los Angeles Regional     
Peachtree Regional                        Kevin Sevcik (57)
Pittsburgh Regional
Silicon Valley Regional                  Martin Taylor (100)
Wisconsin Regional
MI - Cass Tech                            Nicholas(326)??

Week 4
Israel Regional 
Arizona Regional
Bayou Regional
Boilermaker Regional   
Chesapeake Regional                      Will (449)
NASA / VCU Regional
Philadelphia Regional
St. Louis Regional
Waterloo Regional                        Jonathan Norris (2809)       
MI - Lansing
MI - Detroit             

Week 5
Colorado Regional
Connecticut Regional
Greater Toronto Regional                  Jonathan Norris (2809)
Hawaii Regional
Las Vegas Regional
Lone Star Regional                        Kevin Sevcik (57)
Microsoft Seattle Regional                James Byrne (360)
Palmetto Regional
Sacramento Regional                      Martin Taylor (100)/D Green (701)
SBPLI Long Island Regional                Kenny Ardizzone, maybe
MI - West Michigan
MI - Troy                                Nicholas(326)??

Week 6
Michigan State Championship              Nicholas(326)??
Minnesota 10000 Regional                  Kevin O'Connor (2175)
Minnesota North Star Regional            Kevin O'Connor (2175)


Greg Marra 15-01-2009 09:24

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
The Blue Alliance will be on site recording (and hopefully webcasting) the Boston Regional again this year.

Regarding other posts in this thread:
  • We usually store a Flash Video and a high quality video, but I started pruning some of the hi-qual videos because we were running low on disk space. I can likely re-add them all, I just need to do some reorganization of files.
  • I will get up videos that I have (like cal games) asap. I had some transcoding issues on some of them, and have been working on other projects over break. I'll try to do this later today.

soap108 18-01-2009 08:12

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Added 108 for Florida and Buckeye, 111 for Midwest and Boilermaker

p.s. As 108 is not yet "in" for championship, is there anyone willing to help (see * below), taking shifts if needed?

Thanks,
KA


Code:

Regional                                  Volunteer

Week 1
BAE Systems Granite State Regional        Kyle Fenton (121)
Buckeye Regional                          Team 108
Greater Kansas City Regional
Midwest Regional                          Mike Sansone (111)
New Jersey Regional
Oklahoma City Regional
Washington DC Regional                    Will (449)/Anish(1123)
MI - Traverse City

Week 2
Boston Regional
Finger Lakes Regional                         
Oregon Regional                          James Byrne (360)
San Diego Regional 
New York City Regional                    Kenny Ardizzone
MI - Kettering

Week 3
Dallas Regional
Florida Regional                          Team 108
Los Angeles Regional     
Peachtree Regional                        Kevin Sevcik (57)
Pittsburgh Regional
Silicon Valley Regional                  Martin Taylor (100)
Wisconsin Regional
MI - Cass Tech                            Nicholas(326)??

Week 4
Israel Regional 
Arizona Regional
Bayou Regional
Boilermaker Regional                      Mike Sansone (111)
Chesapeake Regional                      Will (449)
NASA / VCU Regional
Philadelphia Regional
St. Louis Regional
Waterloo Regional                        Jonathan Norris (2809)       
MI - Lansing
MI - Detroit             

Week 5
Colorado Regional
Connecticut Regional
Greater Toronto Regional                  Jonathan Norris (2809)
Hawaii Regional
Las Vegas Regional
Lone Star Regional                        Kevin Sevcik (57)
Microsoft Seattle Regional                James Byrne (360)
Palmetto Regional
Sacramento Regional                      Martin Taylor (100)/D Green (701)
SBPLI Long Island Regional                Kenny Ardizzone, maybe
MI - West Michigan
MI - Troy                                Nicholas(326)??

Week 6
Michigan State Championship              Nicholas(326)??
Minnesota 10000 Regional                  Kevin O'Connor (2175)
Minnesota North Star Regional            Kevin O'Connor (2175)

Week 7 - Championship
Archimedes Division
Curie Division
Galileo Division                         
Newton Division                         
Any division*: Mike Sansone (111), Kenny Ardizzone

*Either don't care which one or will determine once assignments are made.


Mike AA 18-01-2009 08:29

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
I will hopefully be attending Michigan districts, Lansing and West Michigan. If I don't make it to one I will try to get someone on my team to run the DVD recorder.


Code:


Regional                                  Volunteer

Week 1
BAE Systems Granite State Regional        Kyle Fenton (121)
Buckeye Regional                          Team 108
Greater Kansas City Regional
Midwest Regional                          Mike Sansone (111)
New Jersey Regional
Oklahoma City Regional
Washington DC Regional                    Will (449)/Anish(1123)
MI - Traverse City

Week 2
Boston Regional
Finger Lakes Regional                         
Oregon Regional                          James Byrne (360)
San Diego Regional 
New York City Regional                    Kenny Ardizzone
MI - Kettering

Week 3
Dallas Regional
Florida Regional                          Team 108
Los Angeles Regional     
Peachtree Regional                        Kevin Sevcik (57)
Pittsburgh Regional
Silicon Valley Regional                  Martin Taylor (100)
Wisconsin Regional
MI - Cass Tech                            Nicholas(326)??

Week 4
Israel Regional 
Arizona Regional
Bayou Regional
Boilermaker Regional                      Mike Sansone (111)
Chesapeake Regional                      Will (449)
NASA / VCU Regional
Philadelphia Regional
St. Louis Regional
Waterloo Regional                        Jonathan Norris (2809)       
MI - Lansing                              Mike Aalderink (2015)
MI - Detroit             

Week 5
Colorado Regional
Connecticut Regional
Greater Toronto Regional                  Jonathan Norris (2809)
Hawaii Regional
Las Vegas Regional
Lone Star Regional                        Kevin Sevcik (57)
Microsoft Seattle Regional                James Byrne (360)
Palmetto Regional
Sacramento Regional                      Martin Taylor (100)/D Green (701)
SBPLI Long Island Regional                Kenny Ardizzone, maybe
MI - West Michigan                        Mike AAlderink (2015)
MI - Troy                                Nicholas(326)??

Week 6
Michigan State Championship              Nicholas(326)??
Minnesota 10000 Regional                  Kevin O'Connor (2175)
Minnesota North Star Regional            Kevin O'Connor (2175)

Week 7 - Championship
Archimedes Division
Curie Division
Galileo Division                         
Newton Division                         
Any division*: Mike Sansone (111), Kenny Ardizzone

*Either don't care which one or will determine once assignments are made.


Greg Marra 18-01-2009 10:07

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
I've got Boston.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike AA (Post 803013)
I will hopefully be attending Michigan districts, Lansing and West Michigan. If I don't make it to one I will try to get someone on my team to run the DVD recorder.


Code:


Regional                                  Volunteer

Week 1
BAE Systems Granite State Regional        Kyle Fenton (121)
Buckeye Regional                          Team 108
Greater Kansas City Regional
Midwest Regional                          Mike Sansone (111)
New Jersey Regional
Oklahoma City Regional
Washington DC Regional                    Will (449)/Anish(1123)
MI - Traverse City

Week 2
Boston Regional                            Greg Marra (TBA)
Finger Lakes Regional                         
Oregon Regional                          James Byrne (360)
San Diego Regional 
New York City Regional                    Kenny Ardizzone
MI - Kettering

Week 3
Dallas Regional
Florida Regional                          Team 108
Los Angeles Regional     
Peachtree Regional                        Kevin Sevcik (57)
Pittsburgh Regional
Silicon Valley Regional                  Martin Taylor (100)
Wisconsin Regional
MI - Cass Tech                            Nicholas(326)??

Week 4
Israel Regional 
Arizona Regional
Bayou Regional
Boilermaker Regional                      Mike Sansone (111)
Chesapeake Regional                      Will (449)
NASA / VCU Regional
Philadelphia Regional
St. Louis Regional
Waterloo Regional                        Jonathan Norris (2809)       
MI - Lansing                              Mike Aalderink (2015)
MI - Detroit             

Week 5
Colorado Regional
Connecticut Regional
Greater Toronto Regional                  Jonathan Norris (2809)
Hawaii Regional
Las Vegas Regional
Lone Star Regional                        Kevin Sevcik (57)
Microsoft Seattle Regional                James Byrne (360)
Palmetto Regional
Sacramento Regional                      Martin Taylor (100)/D Green (701)
SBPLI Long Island Regional                Kenny Ardizzone, maybe
MI - West Michigan                        Mike AAlderink (2015)
MI - Troy                                Nicholas(326)??

Week 6
Michigan State Championship              Nicholas(326)??
Minnesota 10000 Regional                  Kevin O'Connor (2175)
Minnesota North Star Regional            Kevin O'Connor (2175)

Week 7 - Championship
Archimedes Division
Curie Division
Galileo Division                         
Newton Division                         
Any division*: Mike Sansone (111), Kenny Ardizzone

*Either don't care which one or will determine once assignments are made.



Kyle Fenton 18-01-2009 12:13

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
I will also be recording the CT regional.

Code:

Regional                                  Volunteer

Week 1
BAE Systems Granite State Regional        Kyle Fenton (121)
Buckeye Regional                          Team 108
Greater Kansas City Regional
Midwest Regional                          Mike Sansone (111)
New Jersey Regional
Oklahoma City Regional
Washington DC Regional                    Will (449)/Anish(1123)
MI - Traverse City

Week 2
Boston Regional
Finger Lakes Regional                         
Oregon Regional                          James Byrne (360)
San Diego Regional 
New York City Regional                    Kenny Ardizzone
MI - Kettering

Week 3
Dallas Regional
Florida Regional                          Team 108
Los Angeles Regional     
Peachtree Regional                        Kevin Sevcik (57)
Pittsburgh Regional
Silicon Valley Regional                  Martin Taylor (100)
Wisconsin Regional
MI - Cass Tech                            Nicholas(326)??

Week 4
Israel Regional 
Arizona Regional
Bayou Regional
Boilermaker Regional                      Mike Sansone (111)
Chesapeake Regional                      Will (449)
NASA / VCU Regional
Philadelphia Regional
St. Louis Regional
Waterloo Regional                        Jonathan Norris (2809)       
MI - Lansing                              Mike Aalderink (2015)
MI - Detroit             

Week 5
Colorado Regional                     
Connecticut Regional                      Kyle Fenton (121)
Greater Toronto Regional                  Jonathan Norris (2809)
Hawaii Regional
Las Vegas Regional
Lone Star Regional                        Kevin Sevcik (57)
Microsoft Seattle Regional                James Byrne (360)
Palmetto Regional
Sacramento Regional                      Martin Taylor (100)/D Green (701)
SBPLI Long Island Regional                Kenny Ardizzone, maybe
MI - West Michigan                        Mike AAlderink (2015)
MI - Troy                                Nicholas(326)??

Week 6
Michigan State Championship              Nicholas(326)??
Minnesota 10000 Regional                  Kevin O'Connor (2175)
Minnesota North Star Regional            Kevin O'Connor (2175)

Week 7 - Championship
Archimedes Division
Curie Division
Galileo Division                         
Newton Division                         
Any division*: Mike Sansone (111), Kenny Ardizzone

*Either don't care which one or will determine once assignments are made.


DeAnnaC 18-01-2009 17:28

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Code:

Regional                                  Volunteer

Week 1
BAE Systems Granite State Regional        Kyle Fenton (121)
Buckeye Regional                          Team 108
Greater Kansas City Regional              Craig Cottrell (1094)
Midwest Regional                          Mike Sansone (111)
New Jersey Regional
Oklahoma City Regional
Washington DC Regional                    Will (449)/Anish(1123)
MI - Traverse City

Week 2
Boston Regional
Finger Lakes Regional                         
Oregon Regional                          James Byrne (360)
San Diego Regional 
New York City Regional                    Kenny Ardizzone
MI - Kettering

Week 3
Dallas Regional
Florida Regional                          Team 108
Los Angeles Regional     
Peachtree Regional                        Kevin Sevcik (57)
Pittsburgh Regional
Silicon Valley Regional                  Martin Taylor (100)
Wisconsin Regional
MI - Cass Tech                            Nicholas(326)??

Week 4
Israel Regional 
Arizona Regional
Bayou Regional
Boilermaker Regional                      Mike Sansone (111)
Chesapeake Regional                      Will (449)
NASA / VCU Regional
Philadelphia Regional
St. Louis Regional                        Craig Cottrell (1094)
Waterloo Regional                        Jonathan Norris (2809)       
MI - Lansing                              Mike Aalderink (2015)
MI - Detroit             

Week 5
Colorado Regional                     
Connecticut Regional                      Kyle Fenton (121)
Greater Toronto Regional                  Jonathan Norris (2809)
Hawaii Regional
Las Vegas Regional
Lone Star Regional                        Kevin Sevcik (57)
Microsoft Seattle Regional                James Byrne (360)
Palmetto Regional
Sacramento Regional                      Martin Taylor (100)/D Green (701)
SBPLI Long Island Regional                Kenny Ardizzone, maybe
MI - West Michigan                        Mike AAlderink (2015)
MI - Troy                                Nicholas(326)??

Week 6
Michigan State Championship              Nicholas(326)??
Minnesota 10000 Regional                  Kevin O'Connor (2175)
Minnesota North Star Regional            Kevin O'Connor (2175)

Week 7 - Championship
Archimedes Division
Curie Division
Galileo Division                         
Newton Division                         
Any division*: Mike Sansone (111), Kenny Ardizzone

*Either don't care which one or will determine once assignments are made.__________________
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XaulZan11 24-01-2009 19:24

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Norris (Post 784059)
How To Record
This is the most often asked question, and finnaly I have a simple answer for everyone. the Pinnacle Video Transfer, its a $99 ($95 on amazon, I've seen it for $70 on ebay) device that records a component video and audio input right to an external hard drive at the push of a button in glorious h.264.

Have you used this before? I just did a real quick research on it and there appears to be some quality concerns. Reviewers have said the quality is good for ipods, but anything larger and the quality isn't too great. But if you have used it, then I'm sure its good enough for our purposes.

Kyle Fenton 24-01-2009 21:10

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XaulZan11 (Post 807392)
Have you used this before? I just did a real quick research on it and there appears to be some quality concerns. Reviewers have said the quality is good for ipods, but anything larger and the quality isn't too great. But if you have used it, then I'm sure its good enough for our purposes.


After looking at the bitrates on this website ( http://www.trustedreviews.com/multim...eo-Transfer/p1 ) I just can't seem to imagine that it would produce any type of HQ video. To produce SDTV quality MPEG-4 video, you should have at least 3 to 4 Mpbs, and this device max out at 1.5 Mbps.

A cheap DVR or CD recorder would probably be your best bet to record the matches.

JamesByrne 04-02-2009 21:37

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Is there any distinction we can make with the people that are streaming the matches. and the people who will be archiving the matches. Or both.


I am just trying to figure out how we can watch week 1 regionals while they are going on.

Thanks

Mike AA 04-02-2009 22:03

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle Fenton (Post 807443)
After looking at the bitrates on this website ( http://www.trustedreviews.com/multim...eo-Transfer/p1 ) I just can't seem to imagine that it would produce any type of HQ video. To produce SDTV quality MPEG-4 video, you should have at least 3 to 4 Mpbs, and this device max out at 1.5 Mbps.

A cheap DVR or CD recorder would probably be your best bet to record the matches.

I have one ot the Pinnacle Video Transfer devices, just bought it last week actually. I hooked it up to my Satelite and recorded for a couple hours onto a 8gm Ipod nano with no issues I havent hooked up to a USB flash drive but I doubt it would be any different.

I will also be recording at the same time via DVD recorder as a more tried and true process.

-Mike AA

Dave Flowerday 05-02-2009 12:12

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle Fenton (Post 807443)
After looking at the bitrates on this website ( http://www.trustedreviews.com/multim...eo-Transfer/p1 ) I just can't seem to imagine that it would produce any type of HQ video. To produce SDTV quality MPEG-4 video, you should have at least 3 to 4 Mpbs, and this device max out at 1.5 Mbps.

I'm not sure I agree with that... according to the device information, it is recording using H.264 (which is technically MPEG4 Part 10, however when most people say MPEG4 they're usually referring to MPEG4 Part 2). While H.264 encoder implementations can vary dramatically regarding the quality of video produced at given bitrates, 1.5Mbps should be very good quality for SD. As an example, Netflix streaming movies are encoded at a maximum of 1.5Mbps (using VC1 which offers similar performance). Their HD movies max out at 3.8Mbps. I've watched Netflix videos at both of these bitrates and they look excellent - more than good enough for our needs.

Joe Ross 05-02-2009 12:39

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XaulZan11 (Post 807392)
Have you used this before? I just did a real quick research on it and there appears to be some quality concerns. Reviewers have said the quality is good for ipods, but anything larger and the quality isn't too great. But if you have used it, then I'm sure its good enough for our purposes.

I used it last year to record the LA regional. I tried it both on the highest setting (which is interlaced, and needs to be deinterlaced in postprocessing). See http://video.soap108.com/2008/ca-losangeles/ca_037.mp4. The next day I did it on the medium setting, which I think ended up looking better. See http://video.soap108.com/2008/ca-los...s/ca_qf1m2.mp4. You can download all the videos here: http://video.soap108.com/2008/ca-losangeles/

I recorded to an external hard drive, because big flash drives were still expensive last year. If I was doing it again, I'd buy an 8 gig flash drive, probably.

I was very happy with the quality compared to how a lot of the regional's videos came out.

Greg341 05-02-2009 14:26

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
please archiving San Diego Regional for me

synth3tk 13-02-2009 01:14

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Ohhh, we've got 108 for Buckeye. :) If you guys need someone to help parse, let me know.

aksimhal 20-02-2009 18:11

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Hi,

I was wondering if a consensus was reached on the video format/method? [The DC Regional is coming up:rolleyes: ]

Thanks,

Greg Marra 20-02-2009 18:49

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aksimhal (Post 825666)
Hi,

I was wondering if a consensus was reached on the video format/method? [The DC Regional is coming up:rolleyes: ]

Thanks,

I am starting to document this here: http://www.firstwiki.net/index.php/2009_Archiving.

That wiki page now contains most of the knowledge contained in this thread.

Jonathan Norris 22-02-2009 12:27

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Marra (Post 825692)
I am starting to document this here: http://www.firstwiki.net/index.php/2009_Archiving.

That wiki page now contains most of the knowledge contained in this thread.

Great job on the Wiki Greg!! we really should have done that a long time ago...

XaulZan11 22-02-2009 16:57

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Norris (Post 784059)

As for where to capture the video from, FIRST at all its Regionals provides a station with about 20 outputs where you can hook right into the main scoreboard video feed. We prefer this feed over you recording the matches with a camcorder, FIRST hires a professional company at every regional to tape the matches.


Can anyone with 'insider information' confirm this? I emailed both the Midwest and Wiscosin regionals to confirm that we could record the video (for scouting purposes) and both times they were unsure. The Wisconsin regional planning committee said it was 'very unlikely'. The new scoring system seems to have changed some of the standards.

ATannahill 22-02-2009 17:04

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
They do have a profesional compony produce the feed, I do not think they record it though.

As I under stand the company will just get a feed out from the scoring table with the live scoring at the bottom of a green screen and a second with the final scores. The company adds live video from their cameras. They probably will also have a First logo screen and a screen for alliance selection.

pentau 24-02-2009 18:18

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Anyone else getting ready for the first week of regionals? I know I am...


(Located all of the computers, but are still tracking down cables...)

soap108 28-02-2009 14:23

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Who can we thank for the OK regional footage?

Thanks,
KA :cool:

Greg Marra 28-02-2009 15:26

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
If folks need FTP info to upload video to The Blue Alliance, shoot me a PM.

synth3tk 01-03-2009 00:22

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Will do. I've gotta parse everything first, once I receive the footage from Team 48, whom I must thank for providing the Buckeye Regional's webcast.

Rich Kressly 01-03-2009 14:48

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Did anyone capture DC?

Vikesrock 01-03-2009 14:52

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
I've mentioned this before, but if anyone needs any help parsing video just drop me a PM.

ATannahill 01-03-2009 14:53

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
ditto

synth3tk 01-03-2009 16:30

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
So do we have a set format/config, or is it just whatever we choose?

ATannahill 01-03-2009 16:33

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by synth3tk (Post 829609)
So do we have a set format/config, or is it just whatever we choose?

http://www.firstwiki.net/index.php/2009_Archiving

scroll down

Vikesrock 02-03-2009 20:49

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
This is slightly off-topic, but is something I noticed while watching some video from the past week.

On the videos form Oklahoma the "scoring bar" at the bottom of the screen is somewhat transparent. I don't know how this looked on the big screen at the event, but it makes the team numbers much more difficult to see than if the bar is solid like the BAE videos.

I don't really feel that the transparency adds anything so I would recommend talking to the video guys if you see that they are using transparency on the score bar.

pentau 03-03-2009 21:03

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Kressly (Post 829520)
Did anyone capture DC?

I captured DC, have almost finished editing it, and should be posting it in the next few days.

soap108 03-03-2009 21:12

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
thank you for all the hard work.


Quote:

Originally Posted by pentau (Post 831375)
I captured DC, have almost finished editing it, and should be posting it in the next few days.


MasterChief1732 03-03-2009 21:19

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Does anyone know the status of the Midwest regional videos? The Semis-Finals are up but there is nothing else.

Vikesrock 03-03-2009 21:24

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterChief1732 (Post 831392)
Does anyone know the status of the Midwest regional videos? The Semis-Finals are up but there is nothing else.

It appears that they are in the process of getting posted. I see the WMV files for the rest of the elims and some of the quals on the TBA servers.

synth3tk 03-03-2009 22:56

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
lol, I received the Buckeye videos in FLV format, so don't expect them anytime soon. :p Huge thanks to Team 48 for archiving/streaming the regional, though.

Mike AA 03-03-2009 23:11

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by synth3tk (Post 831459)
lol, I received the Buckeye videos in FLV format, so don't expect them anytime soon. :p Huge thanks to Team 48 for archiving/streaming the regional, though.


You could upload what video you have and others could rip and convert it.

-Mike AA

Vikesrock 03-03-2009 23:21

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
The method i use to parse the videos works just fine with FLV so I can take a crack at them if you want. Not sure how much time I'll have to work on them tomorrow, but I could probably get through them on Thursday or Friday at the latest.

davidfv 03-03-2009 23:39

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Could you take over a TiVO and do the recording?

Ellery 03-03-2009 23:39

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
[quote=DeAnnaC;803285][code]
Regional Volunteer

Week 1
BAE Systems Granite State Regional Kyle Fenton (121)
Buckeye Regional Team 108
Greater Kansas City Regional Craig Cottrell (1094)
Midwest Regional Mike Sansone (111)
New Jersey Regional
Oklahoma City Regional
Washington DC Regional Will (449)/Anish(1123)
MI - Traverse City

Week 2
Boston Regional
Finger Lakes Regional Ellery Wong (191)
Oregon Regional James Byrne (360)
San Diego Regional
New York City Regional Kenny Ardizzone
MI - Kettering

Week 3
Dallas Regional
Florida Regional Team 108
Los Angeles Regional
Peachtree Regional Kevin Sevcik (57)
Pittsburgh Regional
Silicon Valley Regional Martin Taylor (100)
Wisconsin Regional
MI - Cass Tech Nicholas(326)??

Week 4
Israel Regional
Arizona Regional
Bayou Regional
Boilermaker Regional Mike Sansone (111)
Chesapeake Regional Will (449)
NASA / VCU Regional
Philadelphia Regional
St. Louis Regional Craig Cottrell (1094)
Waterloo Regional Jonathan Norris (2809)
MI - Lansing Mike Aalderink (2015)
MI - Detroit

Week 5
Colorado Regional
Connecticut Regional Kyle Fenton (121)
Greater Toronto Regional Jonathan Norris (2809)
Hawaii Regional
Las Vegas Regional
Lone Star Regional Kevin Sevcik (57)
Microsoft Seattle Regional James Byrne (360)
Palmetto Regional
Sacramento Regional Martin Taylor (100)/D Green (701)
SBPLI Long Island Regional Kenny Ardizzone, maybe
MI - West Michigan Mike AAlderink (2015)
MI - Troy Nicholas(326)??

Week 6
Michigan State Championship Nicholas(326)??
Minnesota 10000 Regional Kevin O'Connor (2175)
Minnesota North Star Regional Kevin O'Connor (2175)

Week 7 - Championship
Archimedes Division
Curie Division
Galileo Division
Newton Division
Any division*: Mike Sansone (111), Kenny Ardizzone



I will give the Pinnacle video Transfer a Shot at the Finger Lakes Regional this Week since converting VHS from Ed's $15 vcr was not very fun. Blah....

Ellery

Caio 04-03-2009 00:47

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Is there any possibility of people that will be taping/recording the matches to maybe have a static camera filming the entire field? The filming done by first is almost impossible to tell what's going on everywhere, and it'll film robots picking up balls by themselves off in a corner, while robots are dumbing and playing the game in another.

For learning purposes it'd be a lot more helpful to be able to watch the entire field. But I know it might be too much to ask.

Thanks!

Caio

Kevin Sevcik 04-03-2009 15:31

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Caio (Post 831515)
Is there any possibility of people that will be taping/recording the matches to maybe have a static camera filming the entire field? The filming done by first is almost impossible to tell what's going on everywhere, and it'll film robots picking up balls by themselves off in a corner, while robots are dumbing and playing the game in another.

For learning purposes it'd be a lot more helpful to be able to watch the entire field. But I know it might be too much to ask.

Thanks!

Caio

It's always possible, and there are a few teams that do this, but it's a much larger time and equipment commitment. There's owning or buying the camera itself, then there's the need to set it up in a suitable location, if there is one. Then someone has to babysit the camera for most of the regional, as you can't count on it not walking off, or not being sat in front of. Plus you'd probably still want to record the standard feed as well, as it covers the ceremonies much better and has much better audio.

So it's not impossible.... Just highly annoying. Things would be easier if FIRST just set up an overview camera for webcasts and things and split that feed off for teams to record as well. Or if they hired camera people over the age of 18, who know you can't make a shot more exciting by rapidly zooming in and out or rolling the camera side to side.

Jeff 801 05-03-2009 14:51

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
I am willing to try to capture the Palmetto Regional but I don't have time to split the video into matches so I would be able to supply someone with the raw video files. For me to do this I need some help from someone that knows the format for the captured video. I use VLC to capture but I don't know the correct video and audio setting (codec) for capture.

synth3tk 05-03-2009 23:29

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Someone's going to need to take Buckeye. I just got busy unexpectedly, and won't be able to work on the video for some time.

Will be uploading to TBA soon. 320p and 720p FLVs courtesy of Team 48.

Sgraff_SRHS06 06-03-2009 00:07

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pentau (Post 831375)
I captured DC, have almost finished editing it, and should be posting it in the next few days.

Still no sign of it on TBA (The Blue Alliance)

ATannahill 06-03-2009 05:53

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by synth3tk (Post 832378)
Someone's going to need to take Buckeye. I just got busy unexpectedly, and won't be able to work on the video for some time.

Will be uploading to TBA soon. 320p and 720p FLVs courtesy of Team 48.

I'll take care of it for you. How can I get it?

RyanCesiel 06-03-2009 19:38

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
245 will be archiving the Kettering District in Michigan. Not sure if we'll be able to cut it up or not.

Manoel 06-03-2009 20:45

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
OK, I'm getting a Pinnacle Video Transfer from Amazon to record the NASA VCU Regional.

synth3tk 07-03-2009 12:04

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 832417)
I'll take care of it for you. How can I get it?

FTP, all day Sunday and Monday. I'll send you the info as soon as I'm ready.

Rich Kressly 08-03-2009 09:29

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
any word on when DC will be available?

Chris27 08-03-2009 15:22

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Does anyone need help parsing/encoding video. I don't know if its just me but there seems to be a surprising lack of TechnoKat footage. I'm sure many scouting teams would like to see more video up so if there is anything I can do to help expedite the process, let me know...

pentau 09-03-2009 11:16

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Kressly (Post 833011)
any word on when DC will be available?

I've been unexpectedly busy and the encoding/compressing is taking a little longer than expected, but I'm going to try to get all of the videos uploaded by the end of this week.

Kevin Kolodziej 12-03-2009 23:10

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
I will have Wisconsin recorded this weekend. I may need some help parsing, or it may take some time. Unfortunately, it will be coming in on VHS tape since my computers are out of commission (hence the delay in me signing up to record). I can transfer to my computer once I get the tapes home, but the computer going to the regional just isn't going to happen at this point...:mad:

Akash Rastogi 12-03-2009 23:50

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Any word on if NJ was archived by 1676? I'd like to see it on TBA soon.

Great work you guys, really appreciate it all.

Rich Kressly 14-03-2009 22:35

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pentau (Post 833528)
I've been unexpectedly busy and the encoding/compressing is taking a little longer than expected, but I'm going to try to get all of the videos uploaded by the end of this week.



edit...thanks Pentau!!! ... DC is now mostly available at http://www.soap.circuitrunners.com/2009/dc/

I'm guessing elims will be up in the near future.

Vikesrock 16-03-2009 01:52

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Alright so with Week 3 regionals in the books I figure now is a good time to look at where we stand on Week 1 and 2 videos.

Code:

Week 1
BAE Systems Granite State Regional      Up on TBA and SOAP
Buckeye Regional                        Definitely recorded and in progress
Greater Kansas City Regional            Not listed for recording
Midwest Regional                        Partially up on TBA
New Jersey Regional                      Not listed for recording
Oklahoma City Regional                  TBA and SOAP
Washington DC Regional                  SOAP
MI - Traverse City                      Not listed for recording

Week 2
Boston Regional                          TBA
Finger Lakes Regional                    TBA               
Oregon Regional                          http://bpsepaa.com/video/main.php
San Diego Regional                      Finals on TBA
New York City Regional                  SOAP
MI - Kettering                          Not listed for recording

If anybody has videos of any of these events which need to be parsed or has week 3 videos that they need help parsing I'm on Spring Break this week so I can probably get them done the same day I get them.

Akash Rastogi 16-03-2009 02:19

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 836613)
Alright so with Week 3 regionals in the books I figure now is a good time to look at where we stand on Week 1 and 2 videos.

Code:

Week 1
BAE Systems Granite State Regional      Up on TBA and SOAP
Buckeye Regional                        Definitely recorded and in progress
Greater Kansas City Regional            Not listed for recording
Midwest Regional                        Partially up on TBA
New Jersey Regional                      Not listed for recording
Oklahoma City Regional                  TBA and SOAP
Washington DC Regional                  SOAP
MI - Traverse City                      Not listed for recording

Week 2
Boston Regional                          TBA
Finger Lakes Regional                    TBA               
Oregon Regional                          http://bpsepaa.com/video/main.php
San Diego Regional                      Finals on TBA
New York City Regional                  SOAP
MI - Kettering                          Not listed for recording

If anybody has videos of any of these events which need to be parsed or has week 3 videos that they need help parsing I'm on Spring Break this week so I can probably get them done the same day I get them.

:eek: :confused: :(
I thought 1676 was recording and parsing?

Vikesrock 16-03-2009 11:34

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 836627)
:eek: :confused: :(
I thought 1676 was recording and parsing?

Whoops, I checked the list here and not the one on the wiki which has become the "more official" one. 1676 is listed there as recording NJ.

pentau 16-03-2009 13:50

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Washington D.C. should be on TBA in the next few days. For the time being, I've only uploaded the WFA to SOAP. If there are any other requests, I can try to edit them in the next few days.

pentau 17-03-2009 15:44

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pentau (Post 836820)
Washington D.C. should be on TBA in the next few days. For the time being, I've only uploaded the WFA to SOAP. If there are any other requests, I can try to edit them in the next few days.

I uploaded the remaining matches (qf1m1, 71, 65, 64, 48, 42, and 5) to SOAP, and am now starting to upload the matches to TBA for Washington DC.

SWAT1806 17-03-2009 15:57

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
All the matches for the Greater Kansas City Regional can be found here. http://www.more.net/services/videost.../archives.html

synth3tk 18-03-2009 14:51

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Change of plans. I'm currently converting all of the FLVs from Buckeye right now, and will be parsing/uploading them.

Thanks for the offers, though!

ham90mack 19-03-2009 00:22

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
pentau, Matches 1 and 2 in the DC regional archive are not correct. You archived the practice matches, not the qualification matches.

I would like to see the Engineering Inspiration award archived, and I'm guessing some others will want the other awards too. But go ahead and take your time, it can be done after you upload to TBA.

Aren_Hill 19-03-2009 00:33

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Any clue on when the rest of Midwest qualifiers will be up?

Also what the status is on Milwaukee

just wonderin

Mike AA 22-03-2009 07:28

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
I may or may not have a chance to parse Lansing so I am in process of uploading the 4 files to firstvideoarchive.com. Each file is 1-3GB so uploading takes a little time.

-Mike AA

Greg Peshek 22-03-2009 10:55

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
What's the word on the rest of the Florida Qualifiers and Elims? The first day of qualifiers was up on SOAP the Friday of the competition, so just curious to see if anyone in this thread knew what was going on with that.

keneajer 22-03-2009 13:23

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
How much hard drive space will u use up if u use the Pinnacle Video Transfer? How teams use the Pinnacle Video Transfer and the editing software with it or do u use a different editing software.

Kevin Kolodziej 22-03-2009 14:05

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Wisconsin is still sitting on my VHS tapes waiting to be digitized. I had a last minute business trip this week that didn't allow me to get started. I will be digitizing and spreading around for parsing as soon as I can. It is coming!

Mike AA 22-03-2009 21:23

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by keneajer (Post 839148)
How much hard drive space will u use up if u use the Pinnacle Video Transfer? How teams use the Pinnacle Video Transfer and the editing software with it or do u use a different editing software.

I had mine set on medium quality and I used a 4GB thumb drive. I saved everything off during lunch and at the end of the night. Mornings usually took 1.7GB afternoon and awards took about 2.7GB. So total you're only looking at about 9GB. I used the medium quality so I didn't need to deinterlace the video to view on a computer ( I think thats how it went)

-Mike AA

Akash Rastogi 22-03-2009 21:51

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
I'm told NJ should be appearing sometime this week. Also told quite a few people were recording Philly, any word on this being true?

KevinReid 23-03-2009 01:00

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
I captured Waterloo regional, but cant parse. Is there any kind soul willing to do the parsing?

How do I go about ULing to somewhere like: firstvideoarchive.com?

Manoel 23-03-2009 03:30

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike AA (Post 839472)
I had mine set on medium quality and I used a 4GB thumb drive. I saved everything off during lunch and at the end of the night. Mornings usually took 1.7GB afternoon and awards took about 2.7GB. So total you're only looking at about 9GB. I used the medium quality so I didn't need to deinterlace the video to view on a computer ( I think thats how it went)

-Mike AA

Keep in mind that the Pinnacle Video Transfer will stop recording a file when it reaches about 3.2 GB (or ~6 hours in medium quality), write it to disk, then resume recording. I did not know that, and as a result, missed Qualification Match 34 on VCU. Everything else was recorded, including awards. I'll begin parsing it when we get back home (end of the week).

Mike AA 23-03-2009 07:41

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Manoel (Post 839685)
Keep in mind that the Pinnacle Video Transfer will stop recording a file when it reaches about 3.2 GB (or ~6 hours in medium quality), write it to disk, then resume recording. I did not know that, and as a result, missed Qualification Match 34 on VCU. Everything else was recorded, including awards. I'll begin parsing it when we get back home (end of the week).

During lunch and after awards I took mine and saved off the files. The closest I came was 2.7GB on saturday. I also ran a DVD recorder just in case.

-Mike AA

Swampdude 23-03-2009 09:15

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Peshek (Post 839083)
What's the word on the rest of the Florida Qualifiers and Elims? The first day of qualifiers was up on SOAP the Friday of the competition, so just curious to see if anyone in this thread knew what was going on with that.

Looks like they posted the eliminations for florida here
I wonder if someone can chop these up and put them on TBA?

Vikesrock 23-03-2009 12:46

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swampdude (Post 839753)
Looks like they posted the eliminations for florida here
I wonder if someone can chop these up and put them on TBA?

Nice find. I'll chop them up and put them up on TBA right now.

dani190 23-03-2009 12:57

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinReid (Post 839649)
I captured Waterloo regional, but cant parse. Is there any kind soul willing to do the parsing?

How do I go about ULing to somewhere like: firstvideoarchive.com?

parse as in?

Encode the video and upload? if so i think i can do that for you...

Uploading i can just run the upload at school, thats easy...

PM me so we can talk furthur.

Thanks, Dani

Dave Flowerday 23-03-2009 14:58

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aren_Hill (Post 838080)
Any clue on when the rest of Midwest qualifiers will be up?

Likely never. The person who everyone thought was going to record the Midwest matches never showed up. Someone else managed to record some of the matches off the webcast, but I believe whatever matches they got are already up on TBA.

Greg Peshek 23-03-2009 19:07

Re: Archiving Regionals Video 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swampdude (Post 839753)
Looks like they posted the eliminations for florida here
I wonder if someone can chop these up and put them on TBA?

I'll do them then... but if anyone else is already doing it and reads this thread, please let me know kind of soon so I don't spend too much time doing something unnecessary.

-Greg


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