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=Martin=Taylor=

30-12-2008 12:00

Re: Dimensions of 2009 Kitbot Box

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Originally Posted by GaryVoshol (Post 788335)

Better yet, how do you fit a 38" maximum robot dimension into a 36" box?

The kitbot side-rails from last year were 36" long out of the box. After you added the endcaps it grew to about 37", a healthy one inch under the limit.

This proves to me that the robot dimensions must be 38" x (some lesser number (probably 28"))."

Andrew Schreiber

30-12-2008 12:24

Re: Dimensions of 2009 Kitbot Box

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Originally Posted by Hachiban VIII (Post 788367)

This proves to me that the robot dimensions must be 38" x (some lesser number (probably 28"))."

Now, what would make you think that? Nothing says that FIRST wont change the dimension and say, "You can use this but you have to cut it yourself"

Remember, the only rules that are set in stone are those regarding safety. But I'll go back to quietly waiting for kickoff now.

Racer26

30-12-2008 13:57

Re: Dimensions of 2009 Kitbot Box

Thats possible, but unlikely. Dimensions have been 28"x38" since at least 2003. I can't see them moving away from this, as it makes for robots that fit nicely through a standard doorway.

Robert Cawthon

30-12-2008 14:17

Re: Size of KOP Crates

From Madison on the First Email Blast forum:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madison (Post 788093)

KOP Dimensions

Please make sure you have enough space available in your vehicle to accommodate the Kit of Parts. Quantities, dimensions and weight are listed below:

2 plastic totes: (27" x 17" x 12" each) 34 lbs each
1 Long box (6" x 6" x 36") 22 lbs
1 Square box (10 x 10 x 10) 30 lbs
1 Control System Box (24 1/4" x 15 1/2" x 12") 26 lbs (if not received early)
2 small boxes less than 5lbs. each

Tip! Bringing a dolly can be very helpful

Thanks Madison.

wilsonmw04

30-12-2008 16:50

Re: Size of KOP Crates

Bill's blog says something a tad different.

Quote:

4 small items (less than 5 lb total)

why would we need 4 game pieces?

gorrilla

30-12-2008 16:53

Re: Size of KOP Crates

last year we put it all in the back of Hammi's(mentor) pickup and we still had room......

we might try and fit it in justins civic..........

wilsonmw04

30-12-2008 16:56

Re: Size of KOP Crates

we fit last year's in a Protege. Now that was fun :-)

Bochek

30-12-2008 16:57

Re: Size of KOP Crates

I put last years in my Mx-3 with a passenger too, doing it again this year i think.

s_forbes

30-12-2008 17:07

Re: Size of KOP Crates

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Originally Posted by Bill's blog

4 small items (less than 5 lb total)

This sounds suspiciously like some sort of inflatable sports ball. Football anyone?

Billfred

30-12-2008 17:42

Re: Dimensions of 2009 Kitbot Box

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Originally Posted by 1075guy (Post 788393)

Thats possible, but unlikely. Dimensions have been 28"x38" since at least 2003. I can't see them moving away from this, as it makes for robots that fit nicely through a standard doorway.

Aaaaaactually, the 2004 robots had to fit in a 36x30x60 space. 2005 saw the start of 28x38x??. And, of course, FIRST could change it this year just to ~~spite the CADders on CD~~ ~~irritate~~ challenge us. :)

Madison

30-12-2008 17:46

Re: Size of KOP Crates

I've merged two threads discussing very similar subjects.

Also, if it's hard for y'all to change your CAD design dimensions from 28x38 to anything remotely similar, you're doing it wrong. :p

GaryVoshol

30-12-2008 19:08

Re: Size of KOP Crates

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilsonmw04 (Post 788440)

Bill's blog says something a tad different.

why would we need 4 game pieces?

More likely, it's 4 miscellaneous items that came in too late to be packed in the kit totes.

Vikesrock

30-12-2008 21:06

Re: Size of KOP Crates

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol (Post 788488)

More likely, it's 4 miscellaneous items that came in too late to be packed in the kit totes.

Or fragile items such as sensors.

gorrilla

30-12-2008 22:18

Re: Size of KOP Crates

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 788600)

Or fragile items such as sensors.

it could be nothing but foam peanuts, unless they are the game pieces.......

EricVicenti

30-12-2008 22:23

Re: Size of KOP Crates

Last year you may remember that the two banebots motors provided in the kit (RS-550 & RS-540) were not in either tote, but they were literally handed to us. I believe the small under 5lb items might be of this nature, and the only reason they are listed as <5lbs is to prevent teams from worrying about weight, while not giving away the nature of the item.

Why they were not in totes, I am unsure. They might have been too fragile, or perhaps they didn't arrive in time to be packed in the totes. Either of these issues could have been easily remedied, but no matter.

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