Re: Windows 7 runs labview
 

One of the mentors on my team(Chad) installed windows 7 (got it through his job) on his laptop, and it runs great. No annoying are you sure, thats your sure about running this program that i asked 4 times if you were sure about downloading, and then my fire wall wouldn't let you get. Windows 7 it looks solid, and runs solid.
After installing it Chad said he had to install labview 8.5.1 piece by piece but now that's on their it runs really good. We haven't exported any of his subVI's yet, but it accepted the upgrade with out a hitch, so it's got to have some good backwards compatibility.
Oh it comes with IE8 (internet explorer 8) which also looks great.

Re: Windows 7 runs labview
 

IE8 is technically-challenged. Too unstable in terms of compatibility of sites.

Of course, being the good human being that I should be, I installed FireFox3 before any other piece of software.

Re: Windows 7
 

I know he uses Firefox 3, me and Brandon are trying to convince him to use Google chrome, but i still harbor a good love for Firefox

Re: Windows 7
 

i have tried and tried to get google chrome to work on 7 but it just will not work:confused:

Re: Windows 7
 

I've downloaded and installed both the 32-bit version of Windows 7 onto my laptop and the 64-bit version onto the media center computer in our apartment. What's surprised me the most is not only the remarkable increase in performance over Vista, but that it hardly needs any additional drivers out of the box to actually work.

On my laptop, on Windows XP I had about a dozen drivers to install. After wiping the hard drive and installing Windows 7 fresh, I only had to install audio driver, touchpad driver (to get the ability to scroll webpages, as otherwise it worked), and a general Dell driver (to make all those Fn keys work). On the media center computer, which was also wiped clean before install, I only had to install an ethernet driver. Previously on Vista, it took hours to get all the drivers on this machine to play nice with each other.

Back when it was running Vista, our media center computer couldn't play Blu-Ray discs at all; they would play but the video was so choppy it was unwatchable. After upgrading to Windows 7, using the same software to play the disc, the performance gain was actually enough to make low-action scenes entirely watchable. It was only during high-action scenes where stuff was very fast moving where the computer bogged down and became choppy.

I'm really impressed with Windows 7 so far, as it's light-years better than Vista. So far,

7 is to Vista as XP was to ME.

Re: Windows 7
 

That sounds about right. I skipped over ME, I never got to Vista, XP still does everything I need. Eventually I might upgrade to 7, but I think it'll be a while.

Thanks for the detailed report...

Re: Windows 7
 

Definitely wait either later (when there are more stable drivers/features) or until it's released, but you will certainly want to buy this OS. Artdutra got it right, it will be their next long-term release.

Re: Windows 7
 

I'll wait until XP doesn't do what I need....which might be a while. I'm usually 3 to 7 years behind with my OS.

Re: Windows 7
 

Windows 7 v.7001 is okay i can rumor has it that its not as best as XP as for the multi running programs. Windows 7 is almost the same as Vista just faster. A new feature to it is that if u drag the windows to each side of the screen it automaticly maximize it to a certain size WHICH IS COOL! Well when it does come out I might buy it if i have the funds! =D

Re: Windows 7
 

A big problem with Vista was people didn't need it.
XP was a good OS that did everything people wanted.
I only know one person who upgraded to Vista and I tried it out, and it wasn't bad. However I am not going to shell out 200$ when the OS I have does everything I need. I probably won't upgrade to Win7 unless there are major upgrades.

Re: Windows 7
 

I've been running windows 7 build 7000 on my HP tablet that is used for production work at my office with no problems. It has actually been faster and more stable than when I ran Vista or Xp on the same machine. The only two items I don't have working drivers for are a EDVO modem and the fingerprint sensor which were both items I never used anyways.

Re: Windows 7
 

win 7 is good stuff.
it makes xp look like a snail.
and vista look like a slower snail.
major stability improvements.
and looks cool. but we know [vista] that it needs more than that.
doesn't hog memory. boots faster than my macbook pro.

good stuff. but its gonna have the same probs vista had and xp had and thats compatibility

Re: Windows 7
 

windows 7 is Vista sp2


they need a new name..... I'm running win 7 beta right now.

Re: Windows 7
 

Has anyone installed Inventor 2008 in Windows 7 I am looking to upgrade my full hard drive but if inventor does not work I will not be upgrading. Currently, I have it on a 15gb partition and I know my system can handle it and everything I just don't want to upgrade and then have to downgrade because the main program I use does not work.

Re: Windows 7
 

There's multiple issues (as pointed out in this thread) but I believe someone posted a workaround. Wait until one or two people respond before switching over. As always, this is beta software, so do not use on a primary machine without knowing that there is no support other than that of the community.

Re: Windows 7
 

Well, I don't know about Inventor '08, but Inventor '09 works fine on my laptop with the win7 beta installed. Content center and everything.

Re: Windows 7
 

I have installed Window 7 successful with latest updates, and successful. It works faster than Vista 64bit.

Re: Windows 7
 

inventor '09 has a couple compatibility issues on my machine with windows 7, specifically with the design accelerator stuff. i dont know why, but when i run the gear creator, it locks up the entire system (which im guessing is an MS issue because its system-wide, but it could be autodesk)

Re: Windows 7
 

To back up what Chad has said, we have used the tablet (with windows 7 on it) to load code into the cRIO no issue yet, and all codes developed in windows 7 in labview 8.5.1 are completely compatible.

Re: Windows 7
 

I have no problems with it on my desktop. It runs faster than XP when I had it installed and it runs faster than most Vista computers I've experienced.

The only issues I have are some compatibility ones with select programs, but that's to be expected.

Re: Windows 7
 

I know someone who is running 7...........
He can't get anything to work on it older than Vista, but that's propably because he screwed with PowerShell and tried to but in XP's Luna theme.

Re: Windows 7
 

I got Windows 7 and it runs fine, but i can get it for free and get newer versions for free aswell because of my IT class :P

Re: Windows 7
 

I heard that all Vista users are gonna get a free upgrade to 7 once it has a stable full release. I apologize if someone else said this earlier, but I haven't read all 100+ posts yet!!
That would be nice though, at least to make it an option.

Re: Windows 7
 

Not entirely accurate(unfortunately), from what I've heard...the posts I saw on this topic were somewhat misleading, but the actual release from Microsoft was discussing the upgrade assurance program that they have done in the past(for example, before Vista was released). Essentially, anyone who purchases a new computer with Vista pre-installed after a certain date(still TBD,) would get a free upgrade to Win7 once it is released.

Re: Windows 7
 

As an update to anyone that wants to use windows 7 and Inventor 2008 after seeing that no one has tried it I repartitioned my drive and installed Inventor 2008 with SP3 installed and it is running execlent (faster than in Vista I might add).

Re: Windows 7
 

Speaking of Windows 7, I know someone who beta tested it for Microsoft then got a keygen to unlock the full version of it. He described it as "Windows Vista, but everything you love about XP." So personally, I'm excited for it. I jst hope that all those who had to have Vista will get a free or discounted upgrade to Windows 7 and they will make everything from Vista compatible for Windows 7, especially because most people don't have the money to just go out and buy a new computer since many people went and bought new ones when Vista came out because of the non-compatibility issues with XP.

Re: Windows 7
 

I really need to reformat my laptop. . . I have access to a Windows 7 Beta key through school MSDN Program.
Has anyone tried to install FIRST Robotics Labview Version on Windows 7 and download/upload code to the robot??

Re: Windows 7
 

i wish my IT class at school got a beta key of it but were lame

Re: Windows 7
 

Yes. and Yes. It does install though its not just as easy as throwing in the CD and launching setup. I"m running windows 7 on my hp tablet and i had to install each of the Labview FRC components manually. I think there was easily 8 - 10 different setups if not more that needed to be ran to get it to work. The menu/scripted installer throws up an SDK error when launched.

Once it is installed you also have to manually activate each component If i remember right as well with the license manager.

After that you then can install the update 3 and activate that.


Once all that is done just set your ip address to match the scheme and your good to go. I haven't had any other issues as far as labview goes.

The only real problem i have going right now is where the laptop will just randomly shut down. you'd be working or playing a movie or something and bam its powered off. when you turn it back on its like you had a power outage. battery can be fully charged even. Thing is i don't know if its the laptop or windows 7 as the laptop has taken quite a beating as part of my job.

oh yes by the way this is my "production" system. I'm a network tech/admin for the RESA/ISD that oversees about 7 school districts in our county with about 200+ miles of fiber optics and 15k or more computers on the network.

Re: Windows 7
 

I have mixed feelings about Windows 7, to say the least. Performance wise, it seems like it is going to be a step up from Vista, which is a much-needed improvement. Compared to XP, Vista is slow as dirt. The problems I'm forseeing with Windows 7 are all UI related. Quite frankly, it seems like Microsoft is "dumbing down" Windows. They try to make everything easy to understand, easy to change, and appealing to the masses. This is understandable, and good marketing, but they lose the tech geeks like me when they do this :) Luckily, though, I've heard they have a tool where you can turn certain features on or off at will. This is an excellent idea, and, if implemented well, it could make enough difference so that Windows 7 is not merely a sell-out to make money at the expense of power and performance. Just my thoughts, though.

Re: Windows 7
 

If they offered a "make it look like XP" button, I'd consider buying it.

Re: Windows 7
 

I am going to hope someone sees this

I tried installing windows 7 and everything worked I didnt try solidworks though but I noticed autodesk inventor outright said it couldnt install as I was incompatible.

3dsMax installed most of the way but there was a popup part way through whcih i didnt read and just clicked a button to make go away since i was busy at the time, so maybe it would have installed.

Anyways i reverted to XP and now I am wondering if anyone knows how to get the autodesk software to install in 7, i tried running them in compatibility mode and it didnt work :/ so now I am lost as to what to do since I really liked 7.

Also im on a Mac with Bootcamp and I think autodesk says that my platform isnt completely supported even under XP because of bootcamp I believe, so I am wondering if any other bootcampers have had success/lack therof. Since it may be possible it is doing two strikes, one for bootcamp 1 for seven and not letting me install. What about SolidWorks?

Thanks for your help,

TrentB
Captain 2502

Reading Jeffs Post it sounds like he had to have XP running separately to make it work, is this a method worthy of trying?

Re: Windows 7
 

Alrighty,

First of all, I've been using windows 7 since the release candidate. I would like to say that Windows 7 pwns Vista and is up to par with XP. As for CAD, are you sure inventor doesn't work with windows 7. Right now I have Inventor 2010 installed (2009 on my brothers comp) along with the Solidworks 2009 (and the beta). If you need some help, let me know. You can either IM or email and I can try to help you out.

-RC

Re: Windows 7
 

Comments like that from software companies are left over from the PowerPC days. Any Intel Mac running any version of Windows natively (aka Bootcamp) is absolutely no different than any other typical PC running Windows natively.

Now what they are probably referring to is that generally CAD programs are optimized around professional NVIDIA Quatro or ATI FireGL graphics cards, with very little or no optimization support for the consumer level cards found in nearly all personal computers. Most Macs, along with nearly all PCs sold to the general public, come with consumer-grade graphics cards. What this means is that while the program will still work, it won't work as efficiently as it would on a workstation computer.

Re: Windows 7
 

Although I do tend to agree, the Win7 RC (and even the beta) was incredibly stable. I ran into zero problems with any of my drivers, hardware, or software. Everything runs really smoothly, and I have fallen in love with it.

That, combined with the insanely low (50% off) pre-order pricing convinced me to preorder.

Re: Windows 7
 

I installed the RC on my main system (core 2 duo) on a second drive, it seems to work well. It has a problem with shutting down right after starting up, which should not be a bother in normal use, but sure is when trying to get things set up. No driver for the antique video card I had installed (radeon 9200) so I ended up buying a newer cheap card (nvidia 9400 gt) so I could get both screens working.

And I fixed the freecell problem by installing the program from XP, so I guess the new OS will be usefull after all. moviemaker needs work (7 does not come with WMM, and the Windows Live MM is still in beta and needs a lot more features)

still trying to get used to how much ram it uses...but I guess it's not a big deal since ddr2 is so cheap.

Re: Windows 7
 

Ok some clarification.

Double click the setup icon for inventor.

Install Products

Says something along the lines of this software is not compatible and doesn't install... (last thing I tried installing :/). It just cancels the installer.

Maybe something got screwed up as windows was installed (fresh reformat of that partition, and 64-bit for what it is worth)

Any thoughts?

For the Record
Solidworks - Didnt Try
3ds Max - Installed most of the way, some popup came up (I think about compatibility at the time) I was doing something else so I clicked it thinking it was for whatever app i was using at the time, 3dsmax started to uninstall. I never tried it after that.
Inventor - Install Product, your system is not compatible, exiting now.

2.4ghz core 2 duo
2GB ram
70GB win partition
8600m GT 256mb RAM
Bootcamp installed all drivers fine.

I realize I am theoretically natively running windows however technically I don't think I am because I have EFI and bootcamp emulates the bios I think.

Feel free to contact me over IM if you wish.

Edit: I may try VMing 7 later today (I have enough freepsace on my 200GB drive (like 120 for mac) to VM inventor and 7 so I will see if I can get it to install. Well VMing isnt working because I cant get the stupid files to transfer over. Gonna download in a VM now...

Re: Windows 7
 

This is the error I got in 7 as native and as VM



Im wondering if anyone else got that and if they had to work around it. I tried compatibility mode when I had it natively installed (as opposed to VMed) and it didnt do anything.

Ahh crap http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=71241 it seems like I have to download a special 64 bit version despite the fact that windows 7 is supposed to run 32 fine... in addition 3dsmax was probably just telling me 32bit couldnt work... time to dl that and see if it works. if it does I am off to go get my backup drive from my dads desk (750GB =P)

Now im confused according to the site the download is 32/64 bit and if you want autocad 64 you need special download. Any other 64-biters chime in and say what they did? they say at the top 32 and 64 and imply dl tool and at bottom say 64 bit users. I thought 7 was supposed to get over the bit issue. Maybe not.. I should probably dl and test it out but I don't want to kill 8GB of bandwidth twice since I cant see to copy files from my vm.

Re: Windows 7
 

I had similar problems when I tried to install Inventor 32bit onto 32bit Windows 7. I had a DVD that I had burned the install files onto and i could not install from there. I then downloaded the install files straight onto my computer and still had the same problem. Then, just to see what would happen, I copied the install files onto a flash drive and IT WORKED. since the location that you install from seems to make a difference (If anyone thinks they have an idea why, i would like to hear it), I would try installing using all of these methods.

Re: Windows 7
 

Yea 64 bit install worked fine, compatibility mode got solidworks to install. It launched once in 7 mode then i had to put it to xp mode to get it to work and I get these annoying glitches all the time

http://screencast.com/t/5LCCFSvR

CAD software is the only troublesome thing I have had so far, I guess it could be said that I had trouble with webcam too as I cannot take pics with it (they removed it it seems.)

Re: Windows 7
 

I tried the W7 RC on a recent Toshiba laptop, previously running Vista Ultimate (32 bit). 2G ram.

The wireless connection now randomly dies, didn't before. The wireless signal strength icon says there is a connection when there isn't one. Booting is about as slow as Vista. Shutdown is about as slow as Vista. Firefox now leaks memory and eventually dies. Pdf files don't open in the browser. The printer (Xerox 6180 color) status panel says every job fails, but they do print. Some programs have compatibility issues e.g. Matlab. Here is the list of benefits over Vista and XP:

1.

End.

OK, so it's an RC, but it is quite close to the manufacturing release. This is the lowest quality RC I've ever used from Microsoft and I wonder what the production release will be like. Windows has gone to shark. Joe Average consumer can be happy with XP and skip Vista and it's SP3 fork, W7.

Re: Windows 7
 

I have been running Windows 7 x86 since the end of February on an Acer laptop with 1 GB RAM and a 2.0 GHz Intel Celeron ($300 deal from Woot! and runs great).

I first had the Beta, and now the RC, and I love it. Win 7 is a large improvement over Vista in my opinion, and has not crashed in 5 months of use. Some programs, the start menu, and the program search lagged with the Beta, but that was easily fixed by upgrading to 2 GB of RAM. I have had some compatibility issues with some programs and trouble finding a driver for my printer, but seeing as Win 7 still isn't finalized yet, I will wait to see if that gets fixed.

I am very pleased with Win 7 so far, and I get a free copy through MSDNAA, so I will be sticking with Win 7.

Re: Windows 7
 

I just got an Aspire One from walmart, under $300 incl tax....put the 320gb drive from my external unit on it...installed 7 RC and ubuntu on it. seems to work ok. Windows uses less than half of the 1gb ram when running a browser.

I got to learn how to install windows from a flash drive, that was fun.

I'm keeping XP on the original 160gb drive....