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Zach226-PRLead 03-01-2009 12:00

The Game Floor
 
Ok, does anybody know what the game floors actual technical name is and/or where (if possible) can you get some, or know of any place that you can go to and use a floor of similar characteristics

Steigerwald 03-01-2009 12:04

Re: The Game Floor
 
Quote:

The majority of the CRATER is covered by a 24-foot by 50-foot surface known as the “REGOLITH.” The REGOLITH is made of “Glasliner FRPtm” gel-coated, fiberglass-reinforced, polymer material. This forms a tough, rigid surface that has been specifically selected to have a low coefficient of friction with the acetal-treaded ROVER WHEELS used by the ROBOTS.
From Section 6 of the manual.

cloud_254 03-01-2009 12:09

Re: The Game Floor
 
do u have any idea where we can get regolith or something like it for a mock up crater?

sPod 03-01-2009 12:28

Re: The Game Floor
 
how can we drive on this without crashing?

EricH 03-01-2009 12:39

Re: The Game Floor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sPod (Post 789719)
how can we drive on this without crashing?

Very carefully. Sorry, but you're just going to have to be very careful.

Joshamuffin 03-01-2009 14:27

Re: The Game Floor
 
Crashing is inevitable. However, lower friction reduces chance for damage. Instead of holding its ground and crunching, it slides out of the way. That's why the rules are more lenient.

Dave Flowerday 03-01-2009 15:10

Re: The Game Floor
 
The manual indicates that it's supposed to be the Gel-Coated Glasliner FRP (which is smooth), but pictures from the kickoff event show the floor being the pebble-textured Glasliner FRP. I assume the actual material used at kickoff was correct, but you know what they say about assuming things...

Mike AA 03-01-2009 15:32

Re: The Game Floor
 
Menards sells this very simmilar FRP panel by the paneling I believe the current cost (West Michigan) is something close to $27 for a 4X8 sheet.

-Mike AA

Dave Flowerday 03-01-2009 15:54

Re: The Game Floor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike AA (Post 789738)
I believe the current cost (West Michigan) is something close to $27 for a 4X8 sheet.

...or about $1500 to cover a full field... ouch.

We picked up 2 sheets already for about $30 each.

paulcd2000 03-01-2009 16:27

Re: The Game Floor
 
Also worthy of note is the coefficients of friction listed in the manual
Quote:

Inline, static: 0.06
Inline, dynamic: 0.05
Transverse, static: 0.14
Transverse, dynamic: 0.10
this means that it takes something like 10 seconds to cross the field at the very best. (Force of friction=force exerted on robot sideways, max acceleration = g*mu, mu inline static=.06, thus g*mu=.588 m/s^2)

Protronie 03-01-2009 16:35

Re: The Game Floor
 
The floor looks like the fake ice I've seen at some hockey camps.
A few years ago I had a couple sheets of it to work on my goalie training.
Sadly the place I got it from is no longer in business and I don't remember the exact name of it but I've seen similar stuff at Hockey Giant for about $30 per 4x8 sheet.

-p :cool:

smartkid 03-01-2009 16:45

Re: The Game Floor
 
I have to ask this, the rules state that we can buy and use additional official 2009 first wheels. I suggested that making a bot with multiple wheels (12 wheeled beast) would give us an edge however someone said that it would just redistribute the weight.

What I'm asking is (to someone who knows more physics) will more wheels (more surface area) give any real increase in traction? If so (or not) how is this calculated?

Thanks,
-Cody

DMetalKong 03-01-2009 17:27

Re: The Game Floor
 
Frictional force is completely independent of surface area.
Maximum frictional force is simply the weight of the robot times the coefficient of friction. Ff = u*Fn

smartkid 03-01-2009 17:31

Re: The Game Floor
 
So make you bot as close to 120 lbs as possible and don't worry about surface area. Hummmm...

Ziaholic 03-01-2009 17:32

Re: The Game Floor
 
... or, to put it differently ... you can decide to put 1/4 of your weight on each of 4 wheels, or you can put 1/12 of your weight on each of 12 wheels.

... but if you aren't driving all 12 of the wheels, your net amount of force that turns into robot locomotion is cut waaaay back.


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