Re: How can we drive on this new floor?
 

try here
http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv.../teambadge.php

Re: How can we drive on this new floor?
 

So here's my basic Idea for anyone who was following, Use a fan or such to provide thrust downward, or basically a (much) lower pressure area underneath the bot, the result (hopefully) would be more weight force downwards, making up for that lost weight force from the low traction, I'm not entirely sure exactly how to implement, and I'm not bothering to run the math on how much airflow is required to make up even say 200 lbs, but something like this might be sufficient,

any thoughts?

Re: How can we drive on this new floor?
 

the rules specify that the Rover Wheels are the only thing allowed to provide "traction"

Re: How can we drive on this new floor?
 

after you do the colors, you have to get the "code" and put it in your signature....

Re: How can we drive on this new floor?
 

This is something that Buzz (FRC175) has done to great success in the past. Look up some old video - it's pretty spectacular.

Re: How can we drive on this new floor?
 

Isn't using a fan to create a low pressure zone not considered a traction device? I doesn't directly contact the ground nor does it actually constitute any solid form of traction as it would rely on a limited power supply. Such a device could not be used continuously throughout the match (just an estimate, no supporting math) as it would deplete the battery and rob power to the wheels. This is, of course, dependent on your drive configuration (four wheel/two wheel drive) and other systems such as pneumatics. This would, however, be very useful for acceleration and cornering if it could be designed with minimal spin-up time.
On a separate note, is there a rule stating that we cannot use any sort if thrust based propulsion system and just mounting the wheels as unpowered casters? Such a device wouldn't even rely on traction at all...

Re: How can we drive on this new floor?
 

How effective would it be to use an accelerometer and a rotation sensor to not allow the wheels to go far beyond wheel slippage. You could maximize the traction with out spinning all over the place.

Re: How can we drive on this new floor?
 

Is that low pressure zone intended to increase your traction/performance on the playing surface? If it does, then I would believe it would be defined as a form of traction enhancement. Contact does not matter.

Re: How can we drive on this new floor?
 

"fans" = shades of CanAm Chapparel 2Js. They only raced the one year way back... kinda funny to see shredded debris ejected by the two 45hp ducted fans though. Quickly banned as not fitting the FIA racing rules.

Re: How can we drive on this new floor?
 

Think. If this were true, then weight could be "a form of traction enhancement", similar to any traction control ect. Meaning anything on the robot is outlawed, as it adds weight to increase traction.

Re: How can we drive on this new floor?
 

haha its like a car on ice...=D

Re: How can we drive on this new floor?
 

Obviously you don't drive the robot.

Re: How can we drive on this new floor?
 

Hate to break it to you, but a lot of teams have some innovative programming planned. *hint hint* *wink wink*

There are always ways to work around obstacles...even if they're on the moon.

Re: How can we drive on this new floor?
 

Guys no back to back conversations in threads please. Either stay on topic or use something like AIM or the PM function.

Re: How can we drive on this new floor?
 

^ No double posting, theres an edit button for that :P