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GBilletdeaux930 03-01-2009 15:36

<R16> ?... Starting vs. Playing configuration
 
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<R16>
Once the MATCH has started, the ROBOT may assume a PLAYING CONFIGURATION that is different from the STARTING CONFIGURATION. The ROBOT must be designed such that the PLAYING CONFIGURATION of the ROBOT shall not exceed the dimensions specified in Rule <R11>.
Is this a typo? This is saying that the dimensions do not change at all during the match and that we cannot have arms that extend out of the the 28x60x38 box at all during the match...

Tottanka 03-01-2009 16:33

Re: <R16> ?... Starting vs. Playing configuration
 
What they mean is that you can start smaller than the box allowed and extend as you wish as long as you stay withing those bounds.

Wetzel 03-01-2009 16:47

Re: <R16> ?... Starting vs. Playing configuration
 
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Originally Posted by GBilletdeaux930 (Post 789740)
Is this a typo? This is saying that the dimensions do not change at all during the match and that we cannot have arms that extend out of the the 28x60x38 box at all during the match...

This appears to be their intent. Welcome to unlearning what you thought you knew. :D

Wetzel

jgannon 03-01-2009 16:52

Re: <R16> ?... Starting vs. Playing configuration
 
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Originally Posted by Tottanka (Post 789764)
What they mean is that you can start smaller than the box allowed and extend as you wish as long as you stay withing those bounds.

That's definitely not how I read it.
Quote:

Originally Posted by R11
At the start of, and during, the MATCH the ROBOT shall fit within the dimensions listed below

It sounds to me like we are not allowed to exceed the starting envelope this year.

GBilletdeaux930 03-01-2009 16:53

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Thats almost putting all scoring responsibilities on the human player. I mean, if you made a really small robot, i guess you could score against other robots, but yea.

Wow this is gonna be interesting...

Tottanka 03-01-2009 17:21

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Originally Posted by jgannon (Post 789771)
That's definitely not how I read it.

It sounds to me like we are not allowed to exceed the starting envelope this year.

agreed.
what i mean is that you can never extend beyond those limits, but you may extend while staying within it.

Nate Smith 03-01-2009 17:22

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I'm guessing this is because of the increased potential for collisions due to the low friction surface...will need to wait and see what the official word is...I'm sure that there will be those asking for clarification on this...

Stealth 03-01-2009 17:24

Re: <R16> ?... Starting vs. Playing configuration
 
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Originally Posted by GBilletdeaux930 (Post 789772)
Thats almost putting all scoring responsibilities on the human player. I mean, if you made a really small robot, i guess you could score against other robots, but yea.

Wow this is gonna be interesting...


No your robot can still score. You just have to build a cannon, or catapult or something to launch the moon rocks, that stays inside the dimensions.

GBilletdeaux930 03-01-2009 17:29

Re: <R16> ?... Starting vs. Playing configuration
 
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Originally Posted by Stealth (Post 789779)
No your robot can still score. You just have to build a cannon, or catapult or something to launch the moon rocks, that stays inside the dimensions.

well, it will be more difficult to score, the robots arnt going to be moving much. I mean with two robots, they were having trouble moving, with six... cant wait to see the first match.

So probably the more reliable method of scoring is going to end up being the human player.

Anyone get a time on how long it took those two robots to cross the field? Or maybe how long it took them to start up? I mean its all in how you drive it but yea...

I always hoped for an ice game, this is nearly close enough.

commodoredl 03-01-2009 18:20

Re: <R16> ?... Starting vs. Playing configuration
 
The first thing I thought of when I read that rule was "Oh, 2006 all over again, guess we can rule out the arms!"


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