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Brandon Holley 20-01-2009 12:50

Re: Round Belting - Solid vs. Hollow, Polycord vs. McMaster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosiebotboss (Post 804402)
For clarification purposes, the 'round belting" we are talking about as actually called what?

In the McMaster online catalog I found this, EPDM Rubber Cord and Polyurethane Cord. Is this the 'right stuff'?

Mcmaster P/N# : 59725K704.... this is the same kind of 'stuff' your looking for.

This particular variety is 1/4" dia., orange in color (which is slightly softer durometer and matches rosie's colors ;)), and a 2" min. pulley diameter.

You can pick whatever variety you actually need.

Rosiebotboss 20-01-2009 12:58

Re: Round Belting - Solid vs. Hollow, Polycord vs. McMaster
 
Yeah, that's the stuff. I must have had a brain cramp. I couldn't find it. Thanks, Brando.

Brandon Holley 20-01-2009 14:24

Re: Round Belting - Solid vs. Hollow, Polycord vs. McMaster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosiebotboss (Post 804410)
Yeah, that's the stuff. I must have had a brain cramp. I couldn't find it. Thanks, Brando.

no problem!

rjamesjr 20-01-2009 18:36

Re: Round Belting - Solid vs. Hollow, Polycord vs. McMaster
 
Our team is trying out round belting, but we are having some trouble carrying the ball. The belts keep splitting and not grabbing the ball. Any suggestions?

purduephotog 21-01-2009 09:53

Re: Round Belting - Solid vs. Hollow, Polycord vs. McMaster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rjamesjr (Post 804672)
Our team is trying out round belting, but we are having some trouble carrying the ball. The belts keep splitting and not grabbing the ball. Any suggestions?

Use more belts, closer together, with pulleys? Use less distance between axles ? Use less compression of the ball? Place the axles so that they form triangles between three, instead of having each one directly across from each other?

I'm not sure what you meant by splitting.

Brandon Holley 21-01-2009 10:09

Re: Round Belting - Solid vs. Hollow, Polycord vs. McMaster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rjamesjr (Post 804672)
Our team is trying out round belting, but we are having some trouble carrying the ball. The belts keep splitting and not grabbing the ball. Any suggestions?

You need to make sure you put grooves in whatever pulleys you are using....otherwise, there is nothing keeping the belts from separating (i'm assuming thats what you meant by splitting).

Elgin Clock 21-01-2009 10:17

Re: Round Belting - Solid vs. Hollow, Polycord vs. McMaster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon Holley (Post 805099)
You need to make sure you put grooves in whatever pulleys you are using....otherwise, there is nothing keeping the belts from separating (i'm assuming thats what you meant by splitting).

Unless he means that the cords themselves are splitting when formed into a loop??
If that's the case, then your tension is way too high on your belting.
If you just heat up the ends & melt them together & let the completed loop cure for a while, they should suffice for a while.
Also, if you can, try using very thin wall shrink tubing to assist in holding the joint together as an added protection from the splitting.
Don't forget to put that on before you join the two ends though... or you may have a bit of an issue. :p


Another trick I heard of was to "tin" the ends?? I heard that terminology thrown around the shop before, but I'm not sure what it means exactly.
Maybe throwing some solder on the ends of the plastic helps the adhesion process a bit??
I'll have to find out, & report back here with my findings. Maybe it was just team slang for the heating process we used in the past? Not sure.

Jonathan Norris 21-01-2009 11:41

Re: Round Belting - Solid vs. Hollow, Polycord vs. McMaster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon Holley (Post 804407)
Mcmaster P/N# : 59725K704.... this is the same kind of 'stuff' your looking for.

This particular variety is 1/4" dia., orange in color (which is slightly softer durometer and matches rosie's colors ;)), and a 2" min. pulley diameter.

You can pick whatever variety you actually need.

if you want the Green belting, the 6mm stuff is the same but in Green. Part #8112K33

rjamesjr 21-01-2009 17:06

Re: Round Belting - Solid vs. Hollow, Polycord vs. McMaster
 
The belts are separating while carrying the ball, and the ball is getting stuck.

Jared Russell 21-01-2009 17:21

Re: Round Belting - Solid vs. Hollow, Polycord vs. McMaster
 
Maybe increase the tension in the belts?

vivek16 21-01-2009 17:24

Re: Round Belting - Solid vs. Hollow, Polycord vs. McMaster
 
Try increasing the tension in the belts.

Brandon Holley 21-01-2009 17:37

Re: Round Belting - Solid vs. Hollow, Polycord vs. McMaster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rjamesjr (Post 805376)
The belts are separating while carrying the ball, and the ball is getting stuck.

are there grooves in the pulleys?? if no, then add them....if yes, increase tension

Jonathan Norris 21-01-2009 19:28

Re: Round Belting - Solid vs. Hollow, Polycord vs. McMaster
 
Depending on the length of your belting (especially using thin poly cord), you will need extra rollers in the middle. Or you can just use some thin 1/4" AL rod to support the belts from flexing inward too much. Belting takes a lot of tweaking and babying to work perfectly.

Ryan Dognaux 31-01-2009 12:15

Re: Round Belting - Solid vs. Hollow, Polycord vs. McMaster
 
Has anyone tested the green rough type belting vs. the orange or clear not-as-rough types? Any opinions on either of them?

Also, from everyone's testing, what seems to be a good minimum spacing between your belts for this year's game?


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