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craisis 06-01-2009 15:24

Chat Room
 
Hi, so after a bit of google searching, and forum searching, I seam to have discovered that none of the old chatrooms are used anymore. Is this the case or did I not dig deep enough? And also, is anyone interested in using a chat room again?

1708xMr.Roboto 06-01-2009 15:28

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Going along with the chat room idea.. I read some ware on here about Teamspeak, I think that would be a VERY good idea.. We can have some discussions about things. It would be nice.

craisis 06-01-2009 15:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1708xMr.Roboto (Post 793788)
Going along with the chat room idea.. I read some ware on here about Teamspeak, I think that would be a VERY good idea.. We can have some discussions about things. It would be nice.

Teamspeak would be interesting, so long as not too many people were in. I like the idea of IRC or something because it allows a faster response than a forum, but not requiring headsets/mics, etc. Plus I can see/respond while I'm at work and I don't think my boss would like it much if I used TS at work. But maybe having a TS server for smaller chats? so and IRC chat for the general topics, but if someone needed some more help a small group could join a TS channel to chat about it when needed?

jrdude 06-01-2009 15:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1708xMr.Roboto (Post 793788)
Going along with the chat room idea.. I read some ware on here about Teamspeak, I think that would be a VERY good idea.. We can have some discussions about things. It would be nice.

TeamSpeak would be very good... does it have a chat option like vent...??:confused:

Jinx 06-01-2009 15:39

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I think a chatroom would be a good idea, seeing as how opinions are what i seek in trying to help my team with design... I happen to be a worrier in my team.

The Pre 06-01-2009 15:48

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i like the idea of it the only problem i see with it is the moderation of it and kicking out of people who are being inappropriate.


Things to think of
1. who would moderate
2. what are the rules
3. what is to be discussed where
4. accuracy of information given (not all experts will be on at 2-4am like some of us :D )

Nate Smith 06-01-2009 15:50

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There is an existing IRC room on chat.freenode.net, room #firstrobotics...normally at least around 20 people there, not always active though...

Jinx 06-01-2009 15:50

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Good point...who would make sure the mechanics of this chat room would go as smooth as it should?

craisis 06-01-2009 15:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pre (Post 793815)
i like the idea of it the only problem i see with it is the moderation of it and kicking out of people who are being inappropriate.


Things to think of
1. who would moderate
2. what are the rules
3. what is to be discussed where
4. accuracy of information given (not all experts will be on at 2-4am like some of us :D )

That is an issue to address, my instinct would be to have anyone who appears to go above and beyond in the room to moderate. I'm very willing to moderate as much as I can, and I'll offer up the bandwidth and server as well, for anyone who's interested. I think to start we can use one chatroom (#FRC?) and expand from that, adding other later (#FRC-Soft, #FRC-Mech, #FRC-Elec, etc.) I'm also looking into the ability to have an IRC to teamspeak bridge for text chat, but haven't found anything yet.

Rules should be similar to the forum here, basically all boiling down to gracious professionalism. And, just like any information given here, or anywhere else, take what doesn't come from a known reliable source with a grain of salt. The server I'm running has super-ops, ops, half-ops, voices, and I think half-voices, which moderators could use to help keep track of who's a reliable source and who hasn't proven themselves yet.

Any thoughts?

craisis 06-01-2009 15:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate Smith (Post 793818)
There is an existing IRC room on chat.freenode.net, room #firstrobotics...normally at least around 20 people there, not always active though...

Cool, I thought I'd looked there before, appearently I just missed it. So people who're interested in using chat, should we try to use this one and have the ops there currently handle things? Or do we want to migrate/start another one?

Jinx 06-01-2009 16:05

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Im fine with where ever we go, i need some place to brainstorm and have my ideas opinionated...

jrdude 06-01-2009 16:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate Smith (Post 793818)
There is an existing IRC room on chat.freenode.net, room #firstrobotics...normally at least around 20 people there, not always active though...

I keep getting this error
Quote:

Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, web@freenode.net and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
Problem with the website or me???

kjohnson 06-01-2009 16:18

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I was thinking of using the Quakenet IRC Server, it seems to be a bit more popular. I'll see if we can get rights to #FIRSTrobotics

addictedMax 06-01-2009 16:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by craisis (Post 793823)
That is an issue to address, my instinct would be to have anyone who appears to go above and beyond in the room to moderate. I'm very willing to moderate as much as I can, and I'll offer up the bandwidth and server as well, for anyone who's interested. I think to start we can use one chatroom (#FRC?) and expand from that, adding other later (#FRC-Soft, #FRC-Mech, #FRC-Elec, etc.) I'm also looking into the ability to have an IRC to teamspeak bridge for text chat, but haven't found anything yet.

Rules should be similar to the forum here, basically all boiling down to gracious professionalism. And, just like any information given here, or anywhere else, take what doesn't come from a known reliable source with a grain of salt. The server I'm running has super-ops, ops, half-ops, voices, and I think half-voices, which moderators could use to help keep track of who's a reliable source and who hasn't proven themselves yet.

Any thoughts?

#firstrobotics on Freenode normally isn't busy enough to split the rooms for multiple people, but it has the advantage of seasoned OPs and a varied amount of users. Which is also a good thing because the room already has a structure new members can learn instead of creating one as they go.

FalseProphet #Firstrobotics

taylort 06-01-2009 16:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jrdude (Post 793852)
I keep getting this error

No problem with you at all, just the way you're trying to get there. ;)
This chatroom uses something called IRC (Internet Relay Chat) to access the chatroom. You're best off using a Java client (such as the one located here) to connect to the server. Feel free to PM me if you need any other help getting there!


Quote:

Originally Posted by nukemknight (Post 793854)
I was thinking of using the Quakenet IRC Server, it seems to be a bit more popular. I'll see if we can get rights to #FIRSTrobotics

There's a lot of people (read: 20-30) hanging out in the room on freenode already. I don't really see a need to start a new room; it just fragments the community.

addictedMax 06-01-2009 16:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jrdude (Post 793852)
I keep getting this error


Problem with the website or me???

You have to use an IRC client to get to the chat, mibbit.com is a web based chat service.

craisis 06-01-2009 16:56

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As it looks like the current room (freenode #firstrobotics) I'd say lets try to use that one, I'd rather not have to re-invent the wheel unless it's necessary. Though maybe we should find a place to post some of the information so google can get it? I couldn't find it after a bunch of google searching, and looking through the forums here.

Nibbles 06-01-2009 17:11

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Freenode is a good server for FIRST, being intended for free (that is, open source) software and other "peer directed projects". There are a number of FIRST-related channels, FRC, FLL, etc.

See my footer (AAA_awright on Freenode IRC chat. (Join us at ##FRC on irc.freenode.net)) and http://java.freenode.net .

1708xMr.Roboto 06-01-2009 17:19

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I actually made a Teamspeak server for us guy's and girls in first.

Server Address - 192.168.1.44

addictedMax 06-01-2009 17:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nibbles (Post 793931)
Freenode is a good server for FIRST, being intended for free (that is, open source) software and other "peer directed projects". There are a number of FIRST-related channels, FRC, FLL, etc.

See my footer (AAA_awright on Freenode IRC chat. (Join us at ##FRC on irc.freenode.net)) and http://java.freenode.net .

##FRC is another channel which is much smaller then #firstrobotics through, why should we spilt the teams?

And Teamspea normally fails due to no one checking if anyone is on. I prefer skype (name veryemonemo) and I'm up for a chat whenever I'm actually there.

Nibbles 06-01-2009 19:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by taylort (Post 793860)
There's a lot of people (read: 20-30) hanging out in the room on freenode already. I don't really see a need to start a new room; it just fragments the community.

Because the "ops" which you praise are actually horrible at their job (no offense).
Quote:

<FalseProphet> this is AAA rules I'm a <word prohibited on chiefdelphi> channel
etc...

##FRC is fairly open, anyone can change a topic for news or what not, there are a handful people (including me) able to mute trolls (or ban for join floods), or change channel modes/lock the topic, etc, but none of them stay opped (I find it distracting in a "community" channel).

Regarding TeamSpeak, it has bad operating system support (to it's credit it is getting better), I personally recommend the far superior Mumble.

Cuog 06-01-2009 19:39

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The #firstrobotics channel at irc.freenode.net has been going since 2001 or so(I don't remember exactly how long) I remember that I joined in 2005 and its still going strong today, I'd encourage everyone to join it as well as the many more specific first channels related to FRC specifically as well as FTC and FLL.

Nawaid Ladak 06-01-2009 21:27

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I know some other forum sites have shoutboxes that seem to work like chat rooms, plus mods have their powers in the box as well

plus, everything is documented in a neat way

Cuog 06-01-2009 21:37

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I think one big thing against the chat boxes is the way IRC integrates into chat programs, also that's a lot of unneeded traffic onto CD(and work for the admins) when everything is already done on a third party system. Its not for everyone I know, but its not hard and a lot of fun. Also as a side note, the IRC chats currently aren't linked officially with CD, just most of us are also on here.

teampronto 06-01-2009 23:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nawaid Ladak (Post 794206)
I know some other forum sites have shoutboxes that seem to work like chat rooms, plus mods have their powers in the box as well

plus, everything is documented in a neat way

like this?

http://teampronto.com/chat

addictedMax 06-01-2009 23:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nibbles (Post 794073)
Because the "ops" which you praise are actually horrible at their job (no offense).

etc...

##FRC is fairly open, anyone can change a topic for news or what not, there are a handful people (including me) able to mute trolls (or ban for join floods), or change channel modes/lock the topic, etc, but none of them stay opped (I find it distracting in a "community" channel).

Regarding TeamSpeak, it has bad operating system support (to it's credit it is getting better), I personally recommend the far superior Mumble.

(I'm FalseProphet) And we're to why theres a ##FRC and a #Firstrobotics. AAA_Awright (Nibbles) was a backseat opper who kept trying to report the channel for various percieved rule breaks. (Which I think the channel was started before them). The ops finally got fed up with him and he ran off after banwalking a lot. He then created ##FRC.
The Ops are good at their jobs, I said that in ##FRC not #firstrobotics too so ##FRC is where modship is laccking if anywhere (no offense).

Cuog 06-01-2009 23:58

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Now that both sides have gotten one say I'd like to make sure you guys don't get started on this again, especially before CD mods have to come clean it up.

Nibbles 07-01-2009 00:42

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<del>Chit chat removed<del>
<ins>Wow, haven't used del tags before</ins>

Like I have always said when I refer people to online chat, I recommend Freenode, and a number of FIRST-related channels on it, but specifically ##FRC. As a matter of policy I do not speak on behalf of others, freely speak my opinion when it is asked or make a suggestion, follow the catalyst role be it on IRC or in a leader position, and never hold grudges or give out negative karma.

I always suggest the tool for the job, and Freenode is it. Mumble is it. Git is it. If you can find a channel, on any server/network for that matter, that you like, best wishes to you. Even better, join all of them, what stops you? I don't suggest any one in particular because I don't think any one is perfect enough yet (I do single out ##FRC because that is where development of my scouting program takes place).

Cuog 07-01-2009 01:21

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I have removed my quote of AddictedMAX, and I think the both of you could remove your off topic comments so we can keep this thread productive.

Also I heard that there was a teamspeak setup? Has that been completed and what is the connection info, if I get time I'll stop by.


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