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ntroup 06-01-2009 16:47

Team Update #1
 
Posted 1/6/09

Team Update 1

-Nate

Laaba 80 06-01-2009 16:49

Re: Team Update #1
 
You beat my post by 2 minutes.

Joey

smurfgirl 06-01-2009 16:50

Re: Team Update #1
 
Thanks Nate! Lots of answers in here. (:

swamp_child 06-01-2009 16:59

Re: Team Update #1
 
So when is the real game going to be announced?

flyingcrayons 06-01-2009 17:17

Re: Team Update #1
 
this makes it very luck based and human players are vital!

Wetzel 06-01-2009 17:19

Re: Team Update #1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swamp_child (Post 793922)
So when is the real game going to be announced?

Between week 1 and week 2 events.

Wetzel

Mr_I 06-01-2009 17:23

Re: Team Update #1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flyingcrayons (Post 793935)
this makes it very luck based and human players are vital!

Please see the Team 811 motto (below)

Bobbitay 06-01-2009 17:28

Re: Team Update #1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flyingcrayons (Post 793935)
this makes it very luck based and human players are vital!

Naw! While it may seem like that at face value; in my opinion, it promotes innovation and more thought. It's silly that most everyone has the same idea (as far as shielding, etc, go) yet think that they are all coming up with some great new idea. Just my two cents. Thanks for the update!

Laaba 80 06-01-2009 17:36

Re: Team Update #1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbitay (Post 793950)
Naw! While it may seem like that at face value; in my opinion, it promotes innovation and more thought. It's silly that most everyone has the same idea (as far as shielding, etc, go) yet think that they are all coming up with some great new idea. Just my two cents. Thanks for the update!

I agree with you completely.

Andrew Schuetze 06-01-2009 18:00

Re: Team Update #1
 
I think what is troublesome to many veterans is that FIRST has always allowed some form of defense. Even last year when the object was to race around with trackballs and hurdle. Bonus points were earned for putting it back up at the end of the match. If played under this year's rules, once a trackball is up on the over-head it can't be knocked off.

So we have robot's towing trailers avoiding shots from human players on a surface that doesn't lend itself to control and rapid acceleration or changes in direction. Robots are limited to offense only. The only defense is backing yourself into a corner.
IMHO a lack of balance in game design.:(

billbo911 06-01-2009 18:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Schuetze (Post 793981)
....IMHO a lack of balance in game design.:(

I just don't see it that way. To me, the rules and game design are just "design parameters" that need to be met. Are they a challenge? You bet!!

Please name me anything that is a real challenge that isn't just as rewarding when you meet that challenge.

Daniel_LaFleur 06-01-2009 18:14

Re: Team Update #1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Schuetze (Post 793981)
I think what is troublesome to many veterans is that FIRST has always allowed some form of defense. Even last year when the object was to race around with trackballs and hurdle. Bonus points were earned for putting it back up at the end of the match. If played under this year's rules, once a trackball is up on the over-head it can't be knocked off.

So we have robot's towing trailers avoiding shots from human players on a surface that doesn't lend itself to control and rapid acceleration or changes in direction. Robots are limited to offense only. The only defense is backing yourself into a corner.
IMHO a lack of balance in game design.:(

From the land of hard defense here in New England, I can tell you that there will be defense ... and lots of it :D

nahstobor 06-01-2009 18:23

Re: Team Update #1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Schuetze (Post 793981)
...The only defense is backing yourself into a corner.
IMHO a lack of balance in game design.:(

Are you sure about that? I would think again.

SWIM 06-01-2009 18:26

Re: Team Update #1
 
It sucks that you can't de-score balls.

One idea that came up on our team was making a forklift type appendage that can reach in between the posts on the trailer and remove all the balls from an ally's trailer.

cbudrecki 06-01-2009 18:30

Re: Team Update #1
 
I'm surprised this update didn't touch on G14!


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