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Kakashi1261 02-02-2009 10:15

Re: USB Gamepads as controllers?
 
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Originally Posted by Alan Anderson (Post 812601)
Plug it in to an xbox 360?

Seriously, that controller does not follow the USB HID standard, and is not usable by the 2009 FRC Driver Station.

we have used an xbox 360 controller for the past 2 years.
2007 we used xbox 360 controller, and a guitar hero controller.
2008 we used an xbox 360 controller and a basic button system for the other.

Dave Flowerday 02-02-2009 10:42

Re: USB Gamepads as controllers?
 
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Originally Posted by Kakashi1261 (Post 812644)
we have used an xbox 360 controller for the past 2 years.
2007 we used xbox 360 controller, and a guitar hero controller.
2008 we used an xbox 360 controller and a basic button system for the other.

What Alan is saying is that the Xbox 360 controller is not compatible with the new driver station. If you plug it in you will find that it doesn't work.

Alan Anderson 02-02-2009 13:15

Re: USB Gamepads as controllers?
 
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Originally Posted by Kakashi1261 (Post 812644)
we have used an xbox 360 controller for the past 2 years.

The Chicklet USB-to-gameport translator has programming that allows it to talk the Xbox 360 controller's language. There are drivers for Windows to do the same thing.

The 2009 FRC Driver Station lacks the necessary driver.

You can use an Xbox 360 controller plugged in to an appropriately-configured Chicklet connected to the analog and digital headers on the side of the Driver Station, and probably get it to work the same way it did last year. I think that's a lot of extra work and wiring, and I think you'd be better off with a standards-compliant HID game controller.

R.C. 02-02-2009 16:19

Re: USB Gamepads as controllers?
 
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Originally Posted by Alan Anderson (Post 812752)
The Chicklet USB-to-gameport translator has programming that allows it to talk the Xbox 360 controller's language. There are drivers for Windows to do the same thing.

The 2009 FRC Driver Station lacks the necessary driver.

You can use an Xbox 360 controller plugged in to an appropriately-configured Chicklet connected to the analog and digital headers on the side of the Driver Station, and probably get it to work the same way it did last year. I think that's a lot of extra work and wiring, and I think you'd be better off with a standards-compliant HID game controller.

If anyone can post a tut or a vid of how to do this, our team would appreciate it.

Joe Ross 02-02-2009 18:17

Re: USB Gamepads as controllers?
 
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Originally Posted by Alan Anderson (Post 812752)
You can use an Xbox 360 controller plugged in to an appropriately-configured Chicklet connected to the analog and digital headers on the side of the Driver Station, and probably get it to work the same way it did last year. I think that's a lot of extra work and wiring, and I think you'd be better off with a standards-compliant HID game controller.

You'd also have to rig up a boost power supply for the chicklet, as the DS only supplies 5V, but the chicklet wants 7.2-12v and using a battery on the operator console isn't legal this year like it was in the past. I guess you could probably also bypass the regulator on the chicklet. Neither would be trivial to do safetly

Since the chicklet is no longer available, I wonder if it would be legal to use on the operator console in the first place?

nathan.chupp 05-02-2009 02:17

Re: USB Gamepads as controllers?
 
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Originally Posted by Alan Anderson (Post 812601)
Plug it in to an xbox 360?

Seriously, that controller does not follow the USB HID standard, and is not usable by the 2009 FRC Driver Station.




It dose not work in a 360's it's for my pc..

Blackstarr904 08-02-2009 04:48

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Could a generic (logitec or something else common) usb gamepad be used in place of the usb joysticks?
Yes they can. We have been using one recently (especially yesterday) and it works AWSOME. It gets some getting used to compared to joystick drive (from what i have seen so far by watching the drive team.. havent been able to test drve this year yet :( )

popo308 08-02-2009 23:58

Re: USB Gamepads as controllers?
 
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Originally Posted by nathan.chupp (Post 814507)
It dose not work in a 360's it's for my pc..

Any xbox 360 controller that works for the PC should also work for the 360...
Unless you have some weird off-brand controller that looks like a 360 controller but really isn't?

Alan Anderson 09-02-2009 09:20

Re: USB Gamepads as controllers?
 
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Originally Posted by Joe Ross (Post 812977)
Since the chicklet is no longer available, I wonder if it would be legal to use on the operator console in the first place?

CH Flightsticks were legal in previous years if they were unmodified from their "off the shelf" condition, despite being unavailable for purchase.

The main rule that keeps Chicklets from being used during competition is <R81>, which prohibits "portable computing devices" on anything but the Ethernet ports, with no exceptions.

chmp09 13-02-2009 22:29

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Originally Posted by nathan.chupp (Post 812589)
how do i get my xbox 360 control to work????:confused:

I don't think you can. It does not use default driver. The basic rule of thumb is if you have to install software to get it to work on a PC, it probably wont work with the DS.

keehun 21-02-2009 16:14

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We use a better logitech that has a twist stick and buttons organized in to only one side so buttons are more accessible


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