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CraigHickman 08-01-2009 05:58

pic: What's going on here?
 

Tottanka 08-01-2009 06:08

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i was waiting for that!!!!

sdcantrell56 08-01-2009 06:40

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So you really feel that a crab drive will provide a serious advantage? I am not entirely convinced that a crab drive will be able to cause a change in direction very quickly given the extremely low CoF

StevenB 08-01-2009 09:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sdcantrell56 (Post 795648)
So you really feel that a crab drive will provide a serious advantage? I am not entirely convinced that a crab drive will be able to cause a change in direction very quickly given the extremely low CoF

It certainly won't allow quick changes in direction - but nothing else will either. A swerve drive will allow all four wheels to drive without any slipping. A normal skid-steer robot will inherently slip some of its wheels while it turns, giving up that coveted static friction.

EricVicenti 08-01-2009 10:05

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Swerve is always nice, but I don't think its worth it, especially this year, as this year we have to deal with the low friction, and need to tow around the cumbersome trailer anyhow.

R.C. 08-01-2009 11:59

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I was waiting for this craig, a 12 wheel drive with a forklift. Right or am I wrong ;)

Woody1458 08-01-2009 12:38

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if you can get passed the issues with dragging the trailer at your side when you switch the wheel directions, crab should be great. The use of transverse friction will really help with turning and stopping.

James Tonthat 08-01-2009 12:44

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I think it's been established that the transverse and inline friction are the same. The KoP sheet may say otherwise but real world testing shows them to be the same. Just fyi, :)

Stuart 08-01-2009 12:49

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I think you might find some issues with crabbing side to side with that trailer attached. You might just end up rotating around the trailer, but it will be interesting to see how it turns out.

JesseK 08-01-2009 13:57

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This is obvisouly a ploy to get us thinking that this is a crab module. In fact, take away the wheel and it's a perfectly good shooter wheel mount that fits inside the lazy susan...

waialua359 08-01-2009 14:04

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or what about an idler wheel?

Nuttyman54 08-01-2009 14:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JesseK (Post 795887)
This is obvisouly a ploy to get us thinking that this is a crab module. In fact, take away the wheel and it's a perfectly good shooter wheel mount that fits inside the lazy susan...

Or just rotate the picture 90* and you get something that looks like this....

Akash Rastogi 08-01-2009 15:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rc_cola1323 (Post 795793)
I was waiting for this craig, a 12 wheel drive with a forklift. Right or am I wrong ;)

Last I heard it was 32 wheel crab.

CraigHickman 08-01-2009 16:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 795845)
I think you might find some issues with crabbing side to side with that trailer attached. You might just end up rotating around the trailer, but it will be interesting to see how it turns out.

There's a solution to this. I'm not able to share what it is, but in due time the knowledge will be made public. (read: once it's to late to change your designs to copy it)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woody1458 (Post 795837)
if you can get passed the issues with dragging the trailer at your side when you switch the wheel directions, crab should be great. The use of transverse friction will really help with turning and stopping.

Read above. Yeah, we've got some ideas on how a crab will aid steering and braking. Plus, there's no real problem, as each wheel is independently driven... Hurrah traction control!

Quote:

Originally Posted by EricVicenti (Post 795722)
Swerve is always nice, but I don't think its worth it, especially this year, as this year we have to deal with the low friction, and need to tow around the cumbersome trailer anyhow.

Addressed this too above.

Woody1458 08-01-2009 19:07

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s?o you made your drive train turret independently of your bumpers? This was one of my early ideas but our team does not have the engineering background to make it happen. Congrats!


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