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Ice Berg 18-01-2009 20:25

Mounting Sprockets to the Rover Wheels
 
Hey,

So I was mounting some AndyMark aluminum sprockets to the rover wheels and I noticed that the holes in the wheels are smaller than those in the sprockets. How have other teams been dealing with this? I ended up using machine screws that fit through the wheel mounting holes, but because they're smaller than the holes on the sprocket, it shifts around.

Any suggestions?

gorrilla 18-01-2009 20:29

Re: Mounting Sprockets to the Rover Wheels
 
we just gave them a little tap with the rubber mallet

8/32 bolts with lock nuts and locktite

Matt382 18-01-2009 20:34

Re: Mounting Sprockets to the Rover Wheels
 
Someone in this thread said that locktite dissolved the plastic on the wheels. I would not recommend using lockite in that case. We decided right away that tapping the holes and screwing steel bolts into plastic was not a good idea (even though it was suggested in the intructions for putting the chassis together) so we drilled the holes out bigger and got longer bolts and bolted the sprockets all the way through with some nylon lock nuts on the other side.

gorrilla 18-01-2009 20:38

Re: Mounting Sprockets to the Rover Wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt382 (Post 803409)
Someone in this thread said that locktite dissolved the plastic on the wheels. I would not recommend using lockite in that case. We decided right away that tapping the holes and screwing steel bolts into plastic was not a good idea (even though it was suggested in the intructions for putting the chassis together) so we drilled the holes out bigger and got longer bolts and bolted the sprockets all the way through with some nylon lock nuts on the other side.

locktite does NOT dissolve plastic at all

EricH 18-01-2009 20:41

Re: Mounting Sprockets to the Rover Wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gorrilla (Post 803411)
locktite does NOT dissolve plastic at all

I haven't seen it happen, but there have been many, many reports that locktited plastic parts break.

I know my team (used to) simply tap the holes of the AM wheels and put the screws in.

gorrilla 18-01-2009 20:43

Re: Mounting Sprockets to the Rover Wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 803412)
I haven't seen it happen, but there have been many, many reports that locktited plastic parts break.
.

from the locktite website

"Threadlockers should only be used on metal-to-metal applications, because the Threadlocker turns into a plastic-like substance."

which is probobly the cause.....

Rich Kressly 18-01-2009 20:46

Re: Mounting Sprockets to the Rover Wheels
 
The holes are intentionally small. AndyMark included instructions for tapping and connecting the sprockets to the wheels in the KOP. These instructions are available via a video at the AM website here: http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/yhst-.../AM09WNick.mp4

Daniel_LaFleur 18-01-2009 20:48

Re: Mounting Sprockets to the Rover Wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gorrilla (Post 803411)
locktite does NOT dissolve plastic at all

This is somewhat incorrect.

Depending on the type of loctite and the type of plastic it can craze and crack plastics. The general suggestion is to test the loctite product on a small, non critical, portion of the plastic to see if there is a reaction.

And if you don't believe me, try Loctite 496 on a piece of polycarbonate ;)

gorrilla 18-01-2009 20:50

Re: Mounting Sprockets to the Rover Wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel_LaFleur (Post 803418)
This is somewhat incorrect.

Depending on the type of loctite and the type of plastic it can craze and crack plastics. The general suggestion is to test the loctite product on a small, non critical, portion of the plastic to see if there is a reaction.

And if you don't believe me, try Loctite 496 on a piece of polycarbonate ;)

locktite meaning, threadlocker blue,green and red....

EricH 18-01-2009 21:03

Re: Mounting Sprockets to the Rover Wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gorrilla (Post 803421)
locktite meaning, threadlocker blue,green and red....

Yes, that sort of thing. Try it first on a non-critical area.

gorrilla 18-01-2009 21:06

Re: Mounting Sprockets to the Rover Wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 803431)
Yes, that sort of thing. Try it first on a non-critical area.

we've always used it, its kinda too late now:D

i doubt it could though,

and not just on the wheels......

Mr_I 18-01-2009 21:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gorrilla (Post 803411)
locktite does NOT dissolve plastic at all

Well, I hate to contradict you, but 811 unfortunately knows better. :eek:

gorrilla 18-01-2009 22:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_I (Post 803470)
Well, I hate to contradict you, but 811 unfortunately knows better. :eek:



i read this, it seems they just poured it in the holes?

if it was the blue threadlocker, then alot of people are in for some troblue:ahh:

and we put our everything together with it:ahh:
maybe thats why it says to use it on only metal to metal applications

i still doubt this though,

McGurky 18-01-2009 23:06

Re: Mounting Sprockets to the Rover Wheels
 
Follow the instructions on Andy Marks Website, it explains what size screw to use, and how to tap the holes on the wheels!

ryoung52 18-01-2009 23:14

Re: Mounting Sprockets to the Rover Wheels
 
We put a 10-32 tap into the old DeWalt cordless and power tapped the holes in the wheel. It seemed to work fine. Then I started worrying about someone over tightening the screws and stripping the threads. We went ahead and drilled clearance holes and put lock nuts on.


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