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spc295 20-01-2009 07:45

pic: 295 chassis 1/19/09
 

Pjohn1959 20-01-2009 07:45

Re: pic: 295 chassis 1/19/09
 
So, no ground pick up this year?

spc295 20-01-2009 12:40

Re: pic: 295 chassis 1/19/09
 
its not in our strategy, but keep in mind this is just the frame. (waterjet cutters are awesome)

chewy 20-01-2009 14:37

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How much does that weigh as pictured?

It looks pretty light...

waialua359 20-01-2009 15:14

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How thick is the side rails of your frame?
With a lot of unanswered questions about the sides attached to bumpers and the cantilevered wheel questions, would that pass inspection?
The fact that the side rails are also lightened based on your cutouts, would that meet the bumper attachment rules?
My concern is that we have been discussing such options, but haven't figured whether it would pass or not.

whosdadog 20-01-2009 16:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chewy (Post 804468)
How much does that weigh as pictured?

It looks pretty light...

its weighs 21.4 lbs.

whosdadog 20-01-2009 16:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by waialua359 (Post 804491)
How thick is the side rails of your frame?
With a lot of unanswered questions about the sides attached to bumpers and the cantilevered wheel questions, would that pass inspection?
The fact that the side rails are also lightened based on your cutouts, would that meet the bumper attachment rules?
My concern is that we have been discussing such options, but haven't figured whether it would pass or not.

we are planing on attaching the bumpers on the side rails, and the front and back bumpers on the front and back rails, which have a 3/4 inch top and bottom for the bumpers. the wheels are not cantelevered, we just have not cut the axles back yet.

spc295 20-01-2009 17:59

Re: pic: 295 chassis 1/19/09
 
also the rails are made from 1/8" 5052 alloy

waialua359 20-01-2009 18:02

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I would check with the GDC committee, as it may help answer questions for a lot of other teams.
The fact that your cutouts are "open spaces" which does not provide backing to the bumpers may be an issue. We would like to know the answer also.

The reason why we haven't submitted a question similar (with a diagram), is because we dont have a frame yet. The GDC committee already stated that 1/8" rails are not strong enough, and thus, wont be allowed either.

sdcantrell56 20-01-2009 18:09

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I surely hope the GDC is not referring to 1/8" aluminum when used like this. This frame design is plenty strong enough and will not cause the robot to fail. That would be utterly absurd for the GDC to tell us that now we must build our frame out of 3/16" or 1/4" aluminum plate stock and that we also can't lighten the material.

jgannon 20-01-2009 18:19

Re: pic: 295 chassis 1/19/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by waialua359 (Post 804638)
The GDC committee already stated that 1/8" rails are not strong enough, and thus, wont be allowed either.

Glenn, I think you're grossly oversimplifying the Q&A response you're alluding to.
Quote:

Originally Posted by GDC
A simple flat 1/8-inch aluminum plate mounted on standoffs is unlikely to provide the required structural support for the BUMPERS.

There's miles of difference between "one particular implementation of 1/8-inch plate on standoffs may not be allowed" and "nothing made of 1/8-inch aluminum will be allowed".

Zultraranger 20-01-2009 18:27

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So who constructed your chassis, Motorola?

waialua359 20-01-2009 18:28

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That may be true, however, after reading Dave's response to Cory, I would interpret it as such.
Dont get me wrong, I love this chassis.
The worst part is doing all of this work, and it not passing inspection. It doesnt hurt to ask the GDC. If they say its OK, it will help alleviate possible questions that other teams may have about similar setups.
I truly believe that this chasis will withstand any situations during the competitions this season, but its not a matter of opinion, its what's written in black and white.

Specifically, we wanted to put a thick solid plate on every section that a bumper is to be attached, except small portions where our wheels were (to allow easy access for changing them-cantilevered).

spc295 20-01-2009 18:29

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I would find it very hard to believe that this would not be allowed, especaily because its flanged.

sdcantrell56 20-01-2009 18:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zultraranger (Post 804664)
So who constructed your chassis, Motorola?

What is this supposed to mean?


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