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thoughtbubble 27-01-2009 16:47

Re: Did anyone use all 4 CIM motors for the wheels
 
Quick Question in relation here, is the limit for the motor this year only apply to the cims? We checked the rules but didn't find anything there any thoughts?:]

Rick Wagner 27-01-2009 20:07

Re: Did anyone use all 4 CIM motors for the wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thoughtbubble (Post 809053)
Quick Question in relation here, is the limit for the motor this year only apply to the cims? We checked the rules but didn't find anything there any thoughts?:]

It's in the Robot rules. You may use only the motors in the kit plus two additional CIMs.

Al Skierkiewicz 28-01-2009 07:46

Re: Did anyone use all 4 CIM motors for the wheels
 
From Rev E...
<R51>
Motors specifically permitted on 2009 FRC ROBOTS include:
A.
All motors, actuators, and servos provided in the 2009 Kit Of Parts,
B.
An unlimited number of COTS servos with a maximum output torque of 55 oz-in and maximum rotational speed of 100 rpm at 6 Vdc (e.g. HITEC model HS-322HD or HS-325HB servos, as provided in the Kit Of Parts),
C.
An unlimited number of FIRST Tech Challenge (FTC) servos (HITEC HS-475HB servos),
D.
One or two additional 2-1/2” CIM motors (part #FR801-001 and/or M4-R0062-12) in addition to those provided in the Kit Of Parts. This means that up to four, and no more, 2-1/2” CIM motors can be used on the ROBOT.
E.
COTS motors used as one-to-one replacements (i.e. identical vendor and part number) for motors, actuators and servos provided in the 2009 Kit Of Parts that may have failed or become inoperable.

Emphasis mine.

tennisbeast29 28-01-2009 23:02

Re: Did anyone use all 4 CIM motors for the wheels
 
I don't want to use all 4 CIM motors because 1. we should use it for a shooter and 2. I think it would provide too much torque, although I havent done the calculations yet.

Do any teams do calculations first, later on, or not at all?

rogerlsmith 28-01-2009 23:30

Re: Did anyone use all 4 CIM motors for the wheels
 
Team is 904 using 4 CIM motors in the drive-train. I just posted a picture of our configuration on my blog.

bmarick 29-01-2009 00:17

Re: Did anyone use all 4 CIM motors for the wheels
 
4 CIMS - Drive
2 globes - Steering
1 motor - feeder
4 pistons - 2 for hopper, 1 for elevator, 1 for launcher

Akash Rastogi 29-01-2009 00:26

Re: Did anyone use all 4 CIM motors for the wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tennisbeast29 (Post 810152)
Do any teams do calculations first, later on, or not at all?

We made very careful calculations for optimum speed and torque.

jph399 29-01-2009 00:42

Re: Did anyone use all 4 CIM motors for the wheels
 
We're just stickin with 2 CIMS and 2 gearboxes.

Enigma's puzzle 29-01-2009 08:49

Re: Did anyone use all 4 CIM motors for the wheels
 
We are using 4 cims on the drive train, it should be pretty interesting

Rick Wagner 29-01-2009 12:39

Re: Did anyone use all 4 CIM motors for the wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tennisbeast29 (Post 810152)
I don't want to use all 4 CIM motors because 1. we should use it for a shooter and 2. I think it would provide too much torque, although I havent done the calculations yet.

Do any teams do calculations first, later on, or not at all?

It's true the CIMs provide plenty of power for the regolith surface, but we are using four because we have four wheel independent control, and we need to use four motors that are alike. We did some tests with a higher gear ratio, on the theory that we could control better with less torque, but found that the standard kit tuff-box gear ratio worked best.

Mr_I 29-01-2009 13:07

Re: Did anyone use all 4 CIM motors for the wheels
 
We're using just 2 CIMS for the drivetrain; the lack of friction led us to believe that more would just cause wheel slippage, and there's no need to engage in a pushing match.
1 CIM for collector
1 CIM for storage
1 Keyang for turret
1 Barbie for thrower

Still room for more ...

(Picture coming soon)

MrForbes 29-01-2009 13:11

Re: Did anyone use all 4 CIM motors for the wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_I (Post 810371)
1 Barbie for thrower

We're pretending our FP motor is from a Power Wheels F-150 truck, rather than a Barbiemobile. :)

Shira 06-02-2009 21:30

Re: Did anyone use all 4 CIM motors for the wheels
 
Team 1836:
4 CIMs for the wheels
1 globe for the conveyor belt
1 globe for the shooter
Two fisher price for lifting balls vertically
Keyang or Denso (not sure yet) for a roller at the entrance of the bot

gorrilla 06-02-2009 21:36

Re: Did anyone use all 4 CIM motors for the wheels
 
2 cims for the drivetrain
1 keyang for the "thresher"
1 denso for turret
1 cim for harvester
1 cim for shooter


7 motors! more than we've ever used before:ahh:


no pnuematics too:D

Rick TYler 06-02-2009 21:43

Re: Did anyone use all 4 CIM motors for the wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson (Post 808366)
We're not even using two CIM motors for the wheels.

Indiana, huh? Shooting out supersonic streams of corn oil using the compressor?


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