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vamfun 28-01-2009 00:35

Building Green... What are teams doing?
 
Our team is good at reuse but there is lots of room for recycling improvement. I was wondering what other teams have done to foster sustainable builds and also for greening the community?

Akash Rastogi 28-01-2009 00:57

Re: Building Green... What are teams doing?
 
I know of a few teams who buy recycled HDPE. Not sure if it means what its named, but still...recycled. lol

We're trying to use all the scraps that we make from all polycarb cuts and are currently trying to think of ways to use aluminum shavings from machining.

Herodotus 28-01-2009 01:07

Re: Building Green... What are teams doing?
 
We recycle a lot of material, why keep practically every scrap longer then a few inches and often find uses for it. Admittedly we mostly do it for monetary reasons though.

NoahTheBoa 28-01-2009 01:38

Re: Building Green... What are teams doing?
 
We recycle all of our cans, bottles, and paper we use during the year which adds up to quite a lot. We also keep all of our usable scrap materials. We also received a grant for building a solar powered battery charger a few years ago.

Stuart 28-01-2009 02:16

Re: Building Green... What are teams doing?
 
Our robot is about 50% recycled BEST parts . . does that count?

AdamHeard 28-01-2009 02:22

Re: Building Green... What are teams doing?
 
We do the usual of recycling our bottles/cans but we also recycle scrap. Separate from that we run ewaste programs to help the community get rid of items they can't usually easily get on their own. We also accept any and all scrap or old items (TV's, computers, air conditioners, random industrial equipment) which are either put into ewaste, or are stripped down by us, each appropriate material being recycled or disposed of properly.

It's really win-win, all the scrap material we end up with actually becomes a substantial source of income. In fact, the student that ran it has often had himself listed as a sponsor on the robot.

dtengineering 28-01-2009 03:23

Re: Building Green... What are teams doing?
 
Our wheel hubs are recycled aluminum, cast from scrap we had sitting around the metal shop.

Our drive modules are wood, a renewable, biodegradable resource.

And, from all obvious indicators, all shipping to our team is being done by an aged donkey with a penchant for afternoon naps and frequent grazing breaks. That's why we got our Orbit balls on Friday and will hopefully get our missing KoP parts tommorrow and have yet to see the McMaster order that was supposed to have shipped over a week ago. :rolleyes: That's okay... we're far enough behind schedule now that this fits in to our build sequence just fine. It gives me more time to recycle helpful advice to the students like, "yes, the aluminum is hot when it comes off the belt sander."

Jason

Wayne Doenges 28-01-2009 07:02

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As you can imagine, Team 1501 recycles of all our aluminum scrap.

Gdeaver 28-01-2009 08:01

Re: Building Green... What are teams doing?
 
Maybe First could implement a mini Leeds certification requirement next year..

ebarker 28-01-2009 09:37

Re: Building Green... What are teams doing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vamfun (Post 809471)
Our team is good at reuse

That is one of the three 'R' - reduce, recycle, reuse

Quote:

Originally Posted by vamfun (Post 809471)
recycling improvement

Akash mentioned the aluminum shavings. Easy answer, just recycle them. There are several auto manufacturers that run zero or near zero to the landfill operations. It is easier for them because they can set up processes to recycle metals, glass, and plastics a whole lot easier than a bunch of kids can.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vamfun (Post 809471)
also for greening the community?

I am compelled to make a few suggestions.

a) work at your local volunteer electronics recycling day, or local river / lake cleanup or adopt a mile. These are simple things that anyone with any level of talent can do.

b) build a machine to cleanup. this is where things get really tough.

Remembering that FIRST is like "WWF for smart people" - It is the FIRST'ers of the world that will be the future engineers working on solving a lot of the problems that Dean has outlined.

To illustrate the point - we are trying to build a robot to do some environmental cleanup. It has to be tough enough to get bounced around on a ship's deck all day and dropped 100 meters into seawater, all day, and all night. Thankfully we don't have the 120 lb weight limitation. See "Osborne Reef"

It gives us something to do all year round. We can use it to promote FIRST, connecting what you learn in FIRST with a real life application. It give us a way to interest a whole new realm of people into getting interested into why FIRST and the promotion of STEM education is cool.

And you can also take some time off and build a NURC machine and go visit 842 this summer in Phoenix.

I can't make the next point STRONGLY ENOUGH !!

The average citizen reads about, and talks about problems.

Engineers SOLVE problems. IMHO FIRST students should be thinking about how to take all the really cool stuff they learn, in engineering, science, fundraising, project management, etc to solve a real life problem. There is no shortage of problems to solve.

We chose picking up trash from water because it exists everywhere, it is 'ignored' by everyone, it hit's a lot of hot buttons when presenting to the public, and it potentially parallels a lot of the types of problems that you see in FRC competition. And it is a REALLY tough problem that needs addressing.

a 5 minute mini-documentary. this is the one we are using to promote FIRST internationally, on satellite television with our team partner here

a little self promotion - the website

I apologize if this sounds like self promotion but it is something I'm passionate about, all this FIRST stuff !!!!!

While I'm here is anyone going to be in Singapore May 6th and 7th ? There is an opportunity to present at ShipTek 2009 if we can get someone there. We don't have the time or funds to do it.
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Wetzel 28-01-2009 09:58

Re: Building Green... What are teams doing?
 
Having now lived in England for a while, I can say the US in general has a lot of catch up to do on everyday being green. Not saying it is perfect here, but the level of awareness and practical solutions used is much higher here on a whole.

Wetzel

MrForbes 28-01-2009 10:01

Re: Building Green... What are teams doing?
 
We're building our robot mostly of wood, and locally available materials, and keeping machining to a minimum. I like to think it's because we're concerned about the environment, but it's more likely because we're cheap and lazy! :)

(saving money and labor, by carefull design and material selection, is a major goal of engineers who work for companies that are expected to make a profit)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebarker (Post 809615)
And you can also take some time off and build a NURC machine and go visit 842 this summer in Phoenix.

See you there Ed?

ebarker 28-01-2009 11:02

Re: Building Green... What are teams doing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by squirrel (Post 809626)
See you there Ed?

I hope so. We have to get our ducks in a row and find some money.

Ed

Mike AA 28-01-2009 11:32

Re: Building Green... What are teams doing?
 
Over half our machined materials come from metals bought at the local recycling center. At the end of the year we recycle most of the aluminum shavings and my dad makes a run to the recycle center a couple times a year with scraps from projects throughout the year. Between all the copper and aluminum we recycle close to 5 tons.

-Mike

qwertyuiop[]\ 28-01-2009 12:30

Re: Building Green... What are teams doing?
 
we use our leftover aluminum shavings to make thermite and then use that to melt down the rest of our scrap.

jk. we actually reuse most of our aluminum parts. we have only bought 8020 once and we dont keep our old robots on display, we scrap them for parts and gear boxes. recently the only things we have disposed of were some extremly old steel kitbot parts from like a decade ago and old control system stuff.


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