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billbo911 28-01-2009 21:27

You broke WHAT??!!
 
One of our lead students, who's name will not be mentioned, though his initials are Jon, dropped a wheel on the concrete floor. OOOoooopps!!


Jared Russell 28-01-2009 21:28

Re: You broke WHAT??!!
 
I am...impressed.

gorrilla 28-01-2009 21:39

Re: You broke WHAT??!!
 
is it cracked all the way through, or just through the white plastic?

nahstobor 28-01-2009 21:40

Re: You broke WHAT??!!
 
normal wear and tear?

meastman 28-01-2009 21:40

Re: You broke WHAT??!!
 
oh man, that's pretty bad. hopefully you have and extra.

CraigHickman 28-01-2009 21:43

Re: You broke WHAT??!!
 
I'm concerned that these wheels break this easily.... How high was this dropped from?

(what I'm getting at is that if FIRST is requiring me to use a system that can't handle a competition, I won't be the happiest...)

JesseK 28-01-2009 21:43

Re: You broke WHAT??!!
 
If a robot almost tips over, then doesn't quite tip and slams back down on its wheels, I suspect this will happen.

jgannon 28-01-2009 21:57

Re: You broke WHAT??!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JesseK (Post 810072)
If a robot almost tips over, then doesn't quite tip and slams back down on its wheels, I suspect this will happen.

I don't think the impact force from hitting FRP on top of carpet is anywhere close to that of concrete.

Tom Line 28-01-2009 21:58

Re: You broke WHAT??!!
 
I doubt the competition field will do anything like this to a wheel. The FRP on top of carpet ends up being fairly compliant.

thefro526 28-01-2009 22:01

Re: You broke WHAT??!!
 
I think someone posted a picture a few weeks ago of an almost identical break. It seems like if you drop these wheels from a over a foot or two you run the risk of breaking them. I doubt we'd see anything like this on the competition field because I'd imagine it was softer than concrete or some other hard floor. IIRC there's carpet under the FRP?

JesseK 28-01-2009 22:04

Re: You broke WHAT??!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jgannon (Post 810089)
I don't think the impact force from hitting FRP on top of carpet is anywhere close to that of concrete.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Line (Post 810090)
I doubt the competition field will do anything like this to a wheel. The FRP on top of carpet ends up being fairly compliant.

Keep in mind that these wheels will support up to ~40 lbs each, multiplied by the rotation radius of the tipping bot. Perhaps that's not as bad as a single wheel on concrete, but I think it's a valid concern.

smurfgirl 28-01-2009 22:09

Re: You broke WHAT??!!
 
Yikes! I'm surprised it broke that easily...

Sam2197 28-01-2009 22:15

Re: You broke WHAT??!!
 
for stuff like this i wish i could see it from a high speed camera. then you'd realize its not that hard to crack one of these really hard wheels. if anyone is interested in a good show watch time warp on discovery. it takes random things and tapes them on high speed. i think its cool

XXShadowXX 28-01-2009 22:20

Re: You broke WHAT??!!
 
i just look at that say to myself, really. they seem you know umm tougher

Then that (i wonder if FIRST will make you pay for replacement wheels if one gets destroyed in competition or if you will be charged a foul for not having rover wheel in contact with the ground...
I can easily see some impacts having more then 40 lbs for pressure on one wheel this is why i state the above, or through quote unquote normal wear and tear they become damaged enough that they could break in the event of a high speed... high force collision

IndySam 28-01-2009 22:38

Re: You broke WHAT??!!
 
I have seen a bowling ball crack when dropped on concrete. I'm not to worried about these wheels. Yet.


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