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Team 135 05-02-2009 07:44

Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
I want to know your thoughts on all of these posts this time of year that say "Team 135 Teaser" or simular that show you a pic of something that we all have in our labs (piece of plywood, motor, ball, etc), that is not a teaser at all.

MrForbes 05-02-2009 09:57

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
Just guessing....do you think they're kind of lame? I sometimes do.

Taylor 05-02-2009 10:21

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
We could post pictures of pool noodles and plywood too, but we're conscious of bandwidth. And bumping 'real' pictures.

Sometimes I wonder if the 'tease' is just making people click on pictures of random crap.

Koko Ed 05-02-2009 11:27

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
I pretend they don't exist.

eternalearth888 12-02-2009 19:36

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
I guess if you've got nothing better to do, it doesn't matter...however, if you're really trying to figure something out, it's pretty much a big let down/insult. Its like saying, "I'm better than you just because I am" Whatever happened to gracious proffessionalism? Kindness? Team spirit?

A joke once in awhile is all good fun - but its really just gotten annoying. :(

synth3tk 13-02-2009 01:11

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
Every single person has posted a teaser this season. Usually one or two teams post one, everyone spends time and have a good laugh trying to figure it out, and it usually meant something.

Now it's a bunch of wheels or the game piece sitting on something. They've been getting really lame, to be honest.

Molten 13-02-2009 11:48

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
I don't mean to be excessive. But I'm seriously considering neg repping any thread with a misleading title. Specifically the non-teasers. I'm not a hard man to annoy, I know this. But this is certainly one thing that does it.

Elgin Clock 13-02-2009 12:12

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
1114, 217 & 148 posted ridiculous & useless teasers as well this year, yet they seem to be popular among the posters here.

Oh the other hand, lesser known teams post pics they themselves think are funny but are in fact also ridiculous & useless, & get negative rep, or bad comments about the picture.

Talk about a double standard huh? :(

I think if we are to talk about ridiculous & useless teasers we need to address EVERY team who does it, but then again, my personal feeling is, that it doesn't matter what you post as a teaser.
If it's ridiculous & useless I'll just ignore it unless it's to make a comment on the teaser item itself, even if it's "just a kit part" such as a rover wheel as many people have pointed out as a "bad teaser pic".

$0.02

Jeff Rodriguez 13-02-2009 12:19

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
More relevant now than ever:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=50698

Koko Ed 13-02-2009 14:37

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Rodriguez (Post 819972)

Apparently those pleas fell on deaf ears.

Outside of the 1114, 217 and 148 "spoilers" where people are outright desperate to hear anything from those teams but in reality you aint gonna know diddly til February 26th what they got it's the "LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!" age of the internet. Teams want to stand out so they do this.
I hate spoilers personally but it's a free country. Go ahead and post them but I have the right to ignore them and I will. End of problem.

Paul Copioli 15-02-2009 00:31

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
All of you that include 217 in the list of teaser posts, please point me to any actual teaser 217 has posted. I really want to see the teaser we have posted this year.

Please get the facts before you post.

Koko Ed 15-02-2009 04:07

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Copioli (Post 821020)
All of you that include 217 in the list of teaser posts, please point me to any actual teaser 217 has posted. I really want to see the teaser we have posted this year.

Please get the facts before you post.


This was the picture I was talking about that got everybody excited.
Like I said people want information on champions. It doesn't seem to be any different than Dave's odd game teasers. On February 26th all will be made clear and people can start to take their beatdowns no matter what information they got.

JVN 16-02-2009 01:22

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Elgin Clock (Post 819965)
1114, 217 & 148 posted ridiculous & useless teasers as well this year, yet they seem to be popular among the posters here.

Oh the other hand, lesser known teams post pics they themselves think are funny but are in fact also ridiculous & useless, & get negative rep, or bad comments about the picture.

Talk about a double standard huh? :(

I think if we are to talk about ridiculous & useless teasers we need to address EVERY team who does it, but then again, my personal feeling is, that it doesn't matter what you post as a teaser.
If it's ridiculous & useless I'll just ignore it unless it's to make a comment on the teaser item itself, even if it's "just a kit part" such as a rover wheel as many people have pointed out as a "bad teaser pic".

$0.02

Sorry if there is a double standard.
I guess we should all be equally interested in all teams, right? I should care as much about a kitbot drivetrain as whatever is being built in Hammond, right?

Yes, our teaser was ridiculous and useless. We know it was.
It was more of a parody of the ridiculous and useless teasers out there. It is also fun for us, because as said above -- everyone seems to eat it right up.

Don't worry, we won't be doing it again next year.
No more teasers from 148.

As usual, 148 will unveil our full robot in video form shortly after ship.
To tide you over...

Here is our 2007 video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...=robowranglers

Here is our 2008 video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fLf71xlVhE

2009, shortly.


-John

Paul Copioli 16-02-2009 02:21

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
Ed,

I repeat. Please point me to a teaser post any member of 217 has submitted.

That was submitted by 1114 without any help from us.

Paul

JVN 16-02-2009 02:33

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Copioli (Post 821838)
Ed,

I repeat. Please point me to a teaser post any member of 217 has submitted.

That was submitted by 1114 without any help from us.

Paul

Paul is the classy one, he had nothing to do with those teasers. It was all 148, 254, and 1114. We did it without 217's knowledge or consent.

Akash Rastogi 16-02-2009 02:44

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JVN (Post 821810)
Don't worry, we won't be doing it again next year.
No more teasers from 148.

Awww, now look what y'all gone and done. >.<

Koko Ed 16-02-2009 02:44

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Copioli (Post 821838)
Ed,

I repeat. Please point me to a teaser post any member of 217 has submitted.

That was submitted by 1114 without any help from us.

Paul

Paul, it doesn't matter if you submitted it or not. People see 1114, 148 and 217 in the same sentance and get all excited even if you have nothing to do with it. They start making all sorts of wild assumption about collaborations and such because that's what teasers do. Fuel speculation.
What exactly are you so angry about anyways? It just means people are excited about what your team is doing. There are hundreds of teams who love to get half the attention you guys garner. That's why they do the teasers in the first place.

Paul Copioli 16-02-2009 10:23

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
Ed,

I am not angry at all. I just want to set the record straight based on this false statement:
Quote:

1114, 217 & 148 posted ridiculous & useless teasers as well this year

And just to make sure everyone is clear. If 148, 1114, and 254 would have approached 217 about a teaser, then we would have done one too. We would have also approved of all of their ideas as we think they are hilarious. John knows me pretty well so he should know better than to accuse me of being classy.

Paul

Elgin Clock 16-02-2009 10:47

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Copioli (Post 821993)
Ed,
I am not angry at all. I just want to set the record straight based on this false statement:
Quote:

1114, 217 & 148 posted ridiculous & useless teasers as well this year
Paul

Since that's my quote Paul, I would like to apologize to you & the rest of 217 for dragging your team's number into the conversation based on pictures uploaded by other teams. That was in fact a bad assumption on my part & an oversight, & I'm sorry for that.

I would also like to apologize to John, Brandon, & the rest of 148 as well, since the trailing wheel teaser pic Brandon uploaded a while back was in fact pretty cool & released early enough in the build season to spark some ideas & help a lot of teams this year in a game challenge & also, the video was pretty neat as well. Also, to John personally, in response to your post above in this thread, please don't let one comment on my part stop you from enlightening your fans in future years from teaser pics.


1114's teaser picture on the other hand. Meh. :confused:
Well, in hopes of not being told to "get a life" again in a negative rep, I'll keep my comments here on these forums to myself on their teaser picture(s) now & in the future as well. :o


My whole original statement was just that I didn't care about the nonsense teaser pics & whether team's uploaded them or not anyways & was more social commentary about picture popularity among different team numbers than complaining about any actual pictures.
I guess that point was missed by some people just because I included some "famous" team numbers in my post.
It's sad that is has come to this to be honest.

JaneYoung 16-02-2009 11:30

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Elgin Clock (Post 822015)
It's sad that is has come to this to be honest.

It's like a game only without a game manual with the rules outlined. Some folks enjoy it, some folks don't.

Don't worry about it, Elgin, enjoy ship day and the competition season. Teasers are teasers are teasers are teasers. Nothing more, nothing less.

Taylor 16-02-2009 11:36

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
I hereby retract my previous statement based upon recent incriminating evidence to the contrary.

Karthik 16-02-2009 13:48

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JVN (Post 821810)
Yes, our teaser was ridiculous and useless. We know it was.
It was more of a parody of the ridiculous and useless teasers out there. It is also fun for us, because as said above -- everyone seems to eat it right up.

As often happens, John's statement echoes the sentiments of myself and 1114 once again. Our "teaser" was merely intended to be a fun play on the seemingly well received "teaser" we posted last year, and a parody of the typical CD teaser. If we had any idea that it would annoy this many people we probably would have reconsidered. In general I've never been the biggest fan of most teasers, and I follow Ed's strategy of ignoring them.

That being said, there was an actual element of teasing in the 1114, 148 and 254 teasers that was never mentioned. The numbers in those photos were all made in the same shop. There's a fairly interesting inference to be drawn from that, well at least interesting for some.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Elgin Clock
1114's teaser picture on the other hand. Meh. :confused:

Glad you think so. Thanks for singling our team out like this in a public forum. I'm sure that was necessary.

JaneYoung 16-02-2009 14:03

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karthik (Post 822159)
Our "teaser" was merely intended to be a fun play on the seemingly well received "teaser" we posted last year, and a parody of the typical CD teaser. If we had any idea that it would annoy this many people we probably would have reconsidered. In general I've never been the biggest fan of most teasers, and I follow Ed's strategy of ignoring them.

That being said, there was an actual element of teasing in the 1114, 148 and 254 teasers that was never mentioned. The numbers in those photos were all made in the same shop. There's a fairly interesting inference to bedrawn from that, well at least interesting for some.

Oh the irony of the teasers and the teasing involved. It's become a Catch 22.

I noticed the beautiful numbers in the photos and figured they were a form of collaboration. With many of the teasers, I've found that if I'm not going to ignore them but stay tuned, hints or truth will reveal themselves, one way or another.

Molten 16-02-2009 20:04

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karthik (Post 822159)
Thanks for singling our team out like this in a public forum. I'm sure that was necessary.

Any time you post a teaser you are singling yourself out. Every time you post something, it may be used as a specific example in the future. As something good or something bad. I'm not saying anything against your teaser in particular(I can't remember what yours was). I'm just saying that being specific as team numbers will often add to one's statement. Without an example, there is ambiguity.

Next time you want to avoid being singled out for something, don't post it to begin with.

synth3tk 16-02-2009 20:37

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
Molten, your post is not an example of what being GP on CD is about.

See how I used what you said against you?

In all reality, people, don't explore the Robot Showcase or CD-Media sections if you don't want to see mindless teaser postings. As far as I know, there aren't any rules about posting teasers on CD, neither here nor through FIRST. I, personally, think some of them should have been kept to one's self, but that's not to say they're all crap.

It's a matter of self-control.

Molten 16-02-2009 23:31

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
synth3tk: First off, feel free to use my posts against me. I know it can be done. I've contradicted myself before. Secondly, people do explore robot showcase for things other then pointless teasers. For instance, I check them out for actual teasers(the new 111 teaser as a great example). Also, nobody is saying they are all lousy. It seems to be the consensus that just some are. Sure, they disagree about which ones are annoying and which ones aren't. But, everyone seems to agree. Some teasers are good. Some are bad. Your post implies that you would even agree with this.

As for the future of this thread: I will not be posting on this thread again. This thread seems to be falling into a flame war that is simply unbecoming. I have made my opinions known and they won't change. I will always find fake teasers annoying.

Jay Trzaskos 17-02-2009 16:54

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
Anyone else remember the good old days when seeing a teaser that you weren't a fan of meant going back and looking at something else instead of complaining? I do, I miss those days...

eternalearth888 20-02-2009 21:42

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Trzaskos (Post 823200)
Anyone else remember the good old days when seeing a teaser that you weren't a fan of meant going back and looking at something else instead of complaining? I do, I miss those days...

I miss those days, too. :]

Wetzel 21-02-2009 08:02

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
Karthik, people will stop singling you guys out after you stop winning everything. Take the bullseye on your back as a complement, wish we had one.

I updated our silly teaser with a picture of the assembled assembly. I know, SNR and all that, but meh. I can take a quick look at a photo and know to pass up the discussion or not.

Wetzel

Chief Pride 21-02-2009 08:50

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Trzaskos (Post 823200)
Anyone else remember the good old days when seeing a teaser that you weren't a fan of meant going back and looking at something else instead of complaining? I do, I miss those days...

Annoying teasers should be treated like obnoxious haircuts.

CraigHickman 23-02-2009 20:24

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
The problem with teasers is that teams are assuming the public at large cares about their robot. To be brutally honest, we don't. I'm not showing favoritism here, but I learn the most from the robots that win, or are impressive in other ways. I learn nothing from a kitbot chassis.

I apologize for doing a teaser in a throwback to my 2006 one. No more will follow from me or my team.

synth3tk 24-02-2009 20:36

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
Same here. I won't post any more teasers from this non-winning team.

Elgin Clock 24-02-2009 21:34

Re: Teasers that aren't teasers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Pride (Post 825919)
Annoying teasers should be treated like obnoxious haircuts.

Ignored until they grow out? :yikes::p


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