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Phoenix Spud 08-02-2009 19:02

Static warning!!!
 
Our team was testing out our robot on a carpet, with the special wheels on a REALLY dry day (we live in NH). After running the robot for a while we decided to work on it. When we touched the robot, to ground our selves, we had BAD static electricity:ahh: . We were even seeing it arc. We think that the wheels were building a charge as we drove on the carpet. Fortunately, we did not fry anything, but we think that we were just lucky. This is just a warning to make sure no other team (like the ones that lives in a cold dry climate) makes the same mistake and fries something.:yikes:

suj 08-02-2009 20:12

Re: Static warning!!!
 
thanks for warning us all:D

merybar 08-02-2009 20:17

Re: Static warning!!!
 
thanks we really appreciate it!!!

R.C. 08-02-2009 20:23

Re: Static warning!!!
 
Interesting...

jwilcox 08-02-2009 20:42

Re: Static warning!!!
 
Van de Graaff!

crake 08-02-2009 20:45

Re: Static warning!!!
 
Just make sure you ground yourself BEFORE you touch any electronics (driver station, side cars, radio, camera, cRIO, etc.).

VanMan 09-02-2009 22:55

Re: Static warning!!!
 
Yep. We had an indecent tonight. We went to the local museum that has a artificial ice rink (basically frictionless). It shocked when we touched the driver station and then the ethernet ports failed, first one, then both. We ordered a new driver station tonight. The most recent update had a way to ground it. I STRONGLY suggest everyone to, if you haven't already. We lost our practice time and fried the DS. We bought some floor stuff so we can practice in our building on the weekend.

nuggetsyl 09-02-2009 23:00

Re: Static warning!!!
 
the driver's station are so sensitive we are looking into placing a static mat under it.

http://www.antistaticmat.net/

Akash Rastogi 09-02-2009 23:11

Re: Static warning!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nuggetsyl (Post 817642)
the driver's station are so sensitive we are looking into placing a static mat under it.

http://www.antistaticmat.net/

Are you guys having random reboots when there's static? We are. The mats work great for this btw, but there's still some problems for us with static.

Russ Beavis 10-02-2009 07:27

Re: Static warning!!!
 
To be absolutely clear, the grounding of the Driver Station for ESD immunity is a rule (R85.1) that MUST be followed by teams. Inspectors will be checking for the rework.

http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedFiles/Driver%20Station%20ESD%20Sensitivity%20Rework%20In structions.pdf

Russ

jamie_1930 10-02-2009 08:35

Re: Static warning!!!
 
FIRST sent out a new update on how to ground the driver to prevent you from destroying it with static.

Team 135 10-02-2009 10:34

Re: Static warning!!!
 
As for testing, we have been using a drag wire to discharge the potential difference between the bot and the floor. We know that we cannot do it at the competition, but it is a good thing to do while you are in the shop testing.

Alan Anderson 10-02-2009 10:46

Re: Static warning!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Team 135 (Post 817856)
As for testing, we have been using a drag wire to discharge the potential difference between the bot and the floor. We know that we cannot do it at the competition,...

What rule prevents you from doing it?

Russ Beavis 10-02-2009 11:00

Re: Static warning!!!
 
As long as it doesn't add traction, damage the floor or connect to either battery terminal, a discharge wire sounds good to me.

Russ

Mike Betts 10-02-2009 12:25

Re: Static warning!!!
 
Anthony,

As Alan and Russ have advised, yes you can have a discharge wire, In addition to their guidance, I would add to be sure that the wire is always within the "bumper perimeter" and does not pose an entanglement hazard.

Regards,

Mike


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