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dragonrulr288 08-02-2009 20:09

Annoyed with the Lunacy balls!
 
Over 60% of our Balls have broke. Most in the past two days:ahh: . Try as we might to be gentile with them, it seems like they break easier than glass!

What about you guys? How bad is your team's collection of Orbit Balls?:confused:

How allusive they seem to be doesn't help either!:(

thefro526 08-02-2009 20:12

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Originally Posted by dragonrulr288 (Post 816832)
Over 60% of our Balls have broke. Most in the past two days:ahh: . Try as we might to be gentile with them, it seems like they break easier than glass!

What about you guys? How bad is your team's collection of Orbit Balls?:confused:

How allusive they seem to be doesn't help either!:(

I think all of ours have at least one broken band. I know of two that are made entirely of broken bands. I actually like the fact that ours are broken because it means that there won't be any surprises when we get to competitions and we have to play with broken Orbit Balls.

meastman 08-02-2009 20:38

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50% of our balls are broken, but considering we only have 2, that's pretty good I guess.

TimCraig 09-02-2009 01:42

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Originally Posted by dragonrulr288 (Post 816832)
Over 60% of our Balls have broke. Most in the past two days:ahh: . Try as we might to be gentile with them, it seems like they break easier than glass!

What about you guys? How bad is your team's collection of Orbit Balls?:confused:

How allusive they seem to be doesn't help either!:(

Makes those of us planning off season events wonder where we're going to get enough intact ones. Anyone come up with a decent substitute in terms of size and weight? Hopefully, easier to source and more durable.

EricH 09-02-2009 01:48

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Originally Posted by TimCraig (Post 817067)
Makes those of us planning off season events wonder where we're going to get enough intact ones. Anyone come up with a decent substitute in terms of size and weight? Hopefully, easier to source and more durable.

Yes. 228 came up with a way to make your own, 980 is arranging to make kits to make them available... Where've you been the last few weeks?:p

TimCraig 09-02-2009 03:51

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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 817070)
Yes. 228 came up with a way to make your own, 980 is arranging to make kits to make them available... Where've you been the last few weeks?:p

I've been around and seen that. :rolleyes: However, the prospect of making hundreds of balls for an event is NOT going to be the first choice. And I'm pretty sure it won't even make the top 10.

artdutra04 09-02-2009 06:32

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Originally Posted by TimCraig (Post 817083)
I've been around and seen that. :rolleyes: However, the prospect of making hundreds of balls for an event is NOT going to be the first choice. And I'm pretty sure it won't even make the top 10.

After March, Blip Toys will again have Orbit balls in stock that they can sell to anyone with a federal business tax ID# (that includes 501(c)3 non-profit organizations) in a minimum order quantity of 1200.

XXShadowXX 09-02-2009 08:44

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were attempting to design a mechanism to collect balls with out damaging them, and its hard to do since they are so damaged to start with...

Teammax 09-02-2009 09:48

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Originally Posted by artdutra04 (Post 817099)
After March, Blip Toys will again have Orbit balls in stock that they can sell to anyone with a federal business tax ID# (that includes 501(c)3 non-profit organizations) in a minimum order quantity of 1200.

I am curious to see the price for this but in the end I do not know how useful this will be. Even at a low cost per ball we are still looking at a few thousands of $s just for the balls. Maybe invitationals can share the cost. I am hoping we find a partner for our invitational that is knowlegable and skilled in making orbit balls :rolleyes: ;)

David Brinza 09-02-2009 10:35

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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 817070)
Yes. 228 came up with a way to make your own, 980 is arranging to make kits to make them available... Where've you been the last few weeks?:p

The kits from a couple of Team 980 parents have been for sale for almost two weeks now. See: Lunacy Game Balls - The Complete Kit

The kit includes pre-cut lexan strips, pre-sewn fabric tubes, high-strength adhesive patches for bonding the strips together -enough for ten balls. Most of the tedious, time-consuming effort in making the balls is already done.

These balls are MUCH more durable than the kit balls. We have not broken one yet - even after kicking it around outside. They bounce almost identically to the Orbit ball, but are about 10-15% stiffer in compression.

dragonrulr288 09-02-2009 11:05

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Originally Posted by TimCraig (Post 817083)
I've been around and seen that. :rolleyes: However, the prospect of making hundreds of balls for an event is NOT going to be the first choice. And I'm pretty sure it won't even make the top 10.

I offered to my coaches to get the material and make one, but they said no.. but the orbit balls are soo weak! I will be truely shocked if one of them makes it fully intact to the end of the week!

And I don't think it will be efficient to make however many balls for competitions. The sheer amount of manpower and hours.... and I don't think the balls sold after march will help with our Traverse City Competition in Feb..........

Jeff Waegelin 09-02-2009 11:28

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We were able to buy 17 balls. We hid 6 of them away immediately, and left the other 11 out for shooting practice, prototyping, and testing. Of the 11 we left out, every single one has at least 2 (usually more) cracks in it that we've had to repair. Fortunately we have some new ones hidden away that we pulled out last night!

CraigHickman 09-02-2009 11:48

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Originally Posted by dragonrulr288 (Post 816832)
Try as we might to be gentile with them, it seems like they break easier than glass!

Out of curiosity, how is one "gentile" with a ball? I didn't know one could be not of the Jewish faith towards an inanimate object...

oddjob 09-02-2009 12:07

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How many balls do you predict will be crushed per match on average? There are six robots moving around and any balls trapped between a robot and any solid surface (side wall, other robot, other trailer) will be crushed. I can easily see tens of balls crushed per match, and that's without trying :)

We have made large mecanum wheels where each roller is a rover wheel and the robot is named Shredder. We rule.

dragonrulr288 09-02-2009 12:31

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Originally Posted by CraigHickman (Post 817238)
Out of curiosity, how is one "gentile" with a ball? I didn't know one could be not of the Jewish faith towards an inanimate object...

sorry, I cant spell apparentally ^^

and as Oddjob said, Alot of balls are bound to break during matches. I can imagine it now... A few hundred orbit balls piled high into a school garbage bins, overflowing with random pieces of cloth and plastic.... the remains of what was once an orbit ball.....


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