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EricH 13-02-2009 18:29
Update #12
 
http://usfirst.org/uploadedFiles/Team%20Update%2012.pdf

Shipping FAQ and some relatively minor edits for clarity; also a revised revision set for the control system.

chinckley 13-02-2009 18:56
Re: Update #12
 
In update 12 it says Inspection Checklist C is available and gives a link, but the checklist stills says Rev B. Any idea where to find C?

EricH 13-02-2009 19:00
Re: Update #12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chinckley (Post 820209)
In update 12 it says Inspection Checklist C is available and gives a link, but the checklist stills says Rev B. Any idea where to find C?
This has happened before...

Sometimes, when a document is announced in an update, it takes a bit to get the revised version up.

chinckley 13-02-2009 19:06
Re: Update #12
 
Thank you Eric. You are always so quick with an answer.
Our team really appreciates all you do to get answers to us quickly.:)
I guess I will just keep checking.

Now, if only you were an expert at programming joystick buttons in Labview.
I am having trouble on this.

Thanks.

Wetzel 13-02-2009 19:29
Re: Update #12
 
Quote:
• Two-way radios or other form of wireless communications are not allowed (with the
exception of the previous bullet).
Are they meaning to ban cell phones from the venue, or just from on the playing field, or not at all? I truly hope this is not their intent, for it would be ugly, but it is what is written.

Wetzel

wt200999 13-02-2009 21:07
Re: Update #12
 
Quote:
• Two-way radios or other form of wireless communications are not allowed (with the
exception of the previous bullet).
Does this also mean no wifi scouting?

Vikesrock 14-02-2009 01:13
Re: Update #12
 
Teams should note the new required update to the Driver's Station.

chinckley 14-02-2009 07:35
Re: Update #12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 820410)
Teams should note the new required update to the Driver's Station.
Where is it and how do we do it?

Mike8519 14-02-2009 10:57
Re: Update #12
 
All control system related stuff/downloads are on the FIRST website
http://www.usfirst.org/community/frc....aspx?id=10934

RoboMom 14-02-2009 11:17
Re: Update #12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wetzel (Post 820220)
Are they meaning to ban cell phones from the venue, or just from on the playing field, or not at all? I truly hope this is not their intent, for it would be ugly, but it is what is written.

Wetzel
Could somebody please ask the question so it gets answered quickly.

chinckley 15-02-2009 21:42
Re: Update #12 - software/firmware
 
How can I tell if we have all the correct versions of Labview, DS, cRio and WPI loaded? I know we did Labview Update 3.0a, but where and how can I check to see if the others were done?

Thanks.

usbcd36 15-02-2009 22:36
Re: Update #12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RoboMom (Post 820549)
Could somebody please ask the question so it gets answered quickly.
I just sent the question to my team's contact.

Alan Anderson 15-02-2009 22:59
Re: Update #12 - software/firmware
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chinckley (Post 821618)
How can I tell if we have all the correct versions of Labview, DS, cRio and WPI loaded?
The Driver Station displays its version number on the screen.
The cRIO sends information about the loaded image on the serial port console when it boots.

chinckley 16-02-2009 09:47
Re: Update #12 - software/firmware
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Anderson (Post 821696)
The Driver Station displays its version number on the screen.
The cRIO sends information about the loaded image on the serial port console when it boots.
What about the WPI?

JamesBrown 16-02-2009 14:55
Re: Update #12 - software/firmware
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chinckley (Post 821975)
What about the WPI?
What are you referring to, WPILib?

chinckley 16-02-2009 15:38
Re: Update #12 - software/firmware
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesBrown (Post 822206)
What are you referring to, WPILib?
Yes. Listed in Update #12 are 4 things we need to make sure are updated:


Software/Firmware Revision
Labview for FRC Update 3.0a and newer
cRIO FPGA Image FRC_2009_v11.zip and newer
WPI Robotics Library 3.0.1718 and newer
Driver Station 2009-02-010a3 and newer

These were updated in Update #12 (the ones in RED)

ahecht 16-02-2009 21:10
Re: Update #12 - software/firmware
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chinckley (Post 822238)
Yes. Listed in Update #12 are 4 things we need to make sure are updated:


Software/Firmware Revision
Labview for FRC Update 3.0a and newer
cRIO FPGA Image FRC_2009_v11.zip and newer
WPI Robotics Library 3.0.1718 and newer
Driver Station 2009-02-010a3 and newer

These were updated in Update #12 (the ones in RED)
See http://first.wpi.edu/FRC/frcupdates.html

chinckley 17-02-2009 09:01
Re: Update #12 - software/firmware
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ahecht (Post 822414)
Do we update the WPI Library if we are using Labview?
When I clicked the above link it said C/C++.

We did update the DS last night and it worked.

I see the correct Labview update we did.

How do I tell if I have
cRIO FPGA Image FRC_2009_v11.zip and newer?
If I need it where do i GET IT?



Do we do all these things: Came from above link.
Downloads

Workbench Updater: WorkbenchUpdate 3.0.1718.exe (19Mb)
Source code for vRC0.1718: WPILibRC0.1718SourceCode.zip (372kb)
(remember that this will only work with the FRC_2009_v11.zip cRIO image, below or with LabVIEW update)
cRIO Image updater (stand-alone without LabVIEW) - FRCNIWRUpdate3.0.a.zip (90.5 Mb)
Documentation - also located in c:\windriver\docs\extensions\FRC after the installation - FRC1718Docs.zip (17 Mb)
C++ Reference as a Windows Help file with hyperlinked class diagrams
C++ PDF Reference document
C PDF Reference document
FRC Vision Windows Help File
FRC Vision API Specification



Thanks

JamesBrown 17-02-2009 10:52
Re: Update #12 - software/firmware
 
You only need to update WPILib if you are programming in C/C++

Andy Brockway 17-02-2009 11:56
Re: Update #12 - software/firmware
 
Another major change is the no wireless except on the competition field.

This means tethered in the pits and on the practice fields. Make sure you have access to the ethernet port on the cRIO. We had to move ours to make it easier to plug/unplug as we came back to the pits at Suffield Shakedown.

So now I go off to buy a long ethernet cable for practice.

chinckley 17-02-2009 12:19
Re: Update #12 - software/firmware
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesBrown (Post 822841)
You only need to update WPILib if you are programming in C/C++
Thank you so very much.

jacobhurwitz 19-02-2009 15:16
Re: Update #12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wt200999 (Post 820273)
Does this also mean no wifi scouting?
Our team has the same question. (See also Update #13.) How are you guys planning to scout without wifi?

Alan Anderson 19-02-2009 15:20
Re: Update #12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jacobhurwitz (Post 824904)
How are you guys planning to scout without wifi?
I expect we'll do it the same way we always do: clipboard, paper, and pencil.

Wetzel 19-02-2009 15:22
Re: Update #12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Update 13
Wireless communication clarification:
Regarding the wireless communication prohibition in Team Update 12, we’d like to clarify that general cell phone use is permitted. However, Wi-Fi use in the 2.4GHz or 5GHz bands is prohibited.
Wetzel


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