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MikeMascaro 20-02-2009 19:23

Scoring Autonomous?
 
I was wondering how many teams have a working, scoring autonomous mode and how well it works for them (how many balls, reliability, etc). Are you planning on starting with balls in the robot or not?

As for us we're planning on starting with at least five and being able to score them all during autonomous each match.

Hazmatt 20-02-2009 19:26

Re: Scoring Autonomous?
 
Our robot's best is 5/7 balls. We use just the camera for autonomous.

Vikesrock 20-02-2009 19:51

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We will be starting with the full complement of 7 balls, but will not be attempting to score any in autonomous even though we are attempting to develop the camera code for teleop anyway.

We believe that any advantages of scoring in auto are not worth the risks of the camera locking on to a target over a robot or a number of other things that would cause us to miss.

MikeMascaro 20-02-2009 19:53

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We found the camera easy to work with and reliable, and so we decided it would be worth it. Plus it gets us moving and away from the human players.

billbo911 20-02-2009 20:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hazmatt (Post 825716)
Our robot's best is 5/7 balls. We use just the camera for autonomous.

Ditto.

It is amazing to watch this thing hunt down and nail it's target. WHAT A BLAST!!!

MikeMascaro 20-02-2009 20:10

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I agree. We had so many problems with the green light camera and the infrared sensors- having this camera work perfectly is a blast.

rogerlsmith 20-02-2009 22:46

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Team 904 has successfully scored in autonomous mode using the camera. I believe we scored 4 or 5 moon rocks on a moving trailer. We have other autonomous modes too. We have been looking at implementing some of the camera capabilities in tele-op.

Eugene Fang 20-02-2009 22:55

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Here is a video of our autonomous a day or two before ship:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmXBM...e=channel_page

Akash Rastogi 20-02-2009 23:41

Re: Scoring Autonomous?
 
I was a bit disappointed when we learned there was no scoring bonus for autonomous this year. :( Anyone have a clue as to why?

MikeMascaro 21-02-2009 11:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 825839)
I was a bit disappointed when we learned there was no scoring bonus for autonomous this year. :( Anyone have a clue as to why?

I agree, it's very disappointing. The only advantage to having a moving autonomous is that you're now a moving target for the human players.

rogerlsmith 01-03-2009 18:56

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As regional and district events begin, I'd like to know how many teams are scoring autonomously (not with the Payload Specialist) and I'd also like to know how you developed your software, either Wind River or LabVIEW. Looking forward to your reply.

Thanks,

11Mort11 01-03-2009 19:03

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We had our autonomous working and following using camera and ultrasonic but we only scored once towards the end when we finally got it working

Rich Kressly 01-03-2009 19:07

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1712 was able to score in autonomous 4 times over the weekend at the DC regional.

nahstobor 01-03-2009 19:10

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Rather than scoring my team (612) simply sets up in Autonomous. We will track the trailer and get in position to score so once teleoperated starts we start shooting. We tried scoring earlier but only got 4 balls in. We felt it wasn't worth the risk trying to score in Auto mode in New Jersey but we will try again at VCU on practice day.

Chexposito 01-03-2009 19:32

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My team has always started out with some usually ~5 because of our robot, but we do that because once teleop starts that's 5 balls ready. Most teams will put some # on. Most autonomous codes consist of go strait or turn left or right and then go straight. Or some other variation.

Akash Rastogi 01-03-2009 19:39

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We only held 2 in our main hopper b/c we didnt want to risk a full load. The other balls were in our conveyor ready to drop into the hopper. Overall, there's way too much traffic on the field, at least there was in NJ.

pacoliketaco 01-03-2009 19:44

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throughout the entire NJ regional, i did not once see a robot attempt to score during autonomous. most of the robots moved though, following a 'go straight and spin' pattern, which ended up with a different orientation each match.

GGCO 01-03-2009 19:54

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I too am curious, for all of the teams whose robot scored in autonomous mode, what programming environment did you use? Labview or WindRiver?

Chexposito 01-03-2009 20:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GGCO (Post 829793)
I too am curious, for all of the teams whose robot scored in autonomous mode, what programming environment did you use? Labview or WindRiver?

Labview
we talked to the NI guy who did most of the programming stuff related to the making of the system. he did wonders to our programming and said we where in the right place to use labview.

AlexD744 01-03-2009 20:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 825729)
We will be starting with the full complement of 7 balls, but will not be attempting to score any in autonomous even though we are attempting to develop the camera code for teleop anyway.

We believe that any advantages of scoring in auto are not worth the risks of the camera locking on to a target over a robot or a number of other things that would cause us to miss.

That's what I said.

AlexD744 01-03-2009 20:24

Re: Scoring Autonomous?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 825839)
I was a bit disappointed when we learned there was no scoring bonus for autonomous this year. :( Anyone have a clue as to why?

I was disappointed too but I think it's because it would be hard for the judges to accurately get a count of what the robot and only the robot scored. Then at the end of the match, when counting, how would they know which were scored by a robot in autonomous or not.

coldfusion1279 01-03-2009 20:27

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1279 scored a few times in DC at our regional. Not many teams could do it (only a few). The problem was that we relied on getting near another trailer in order to track it.

Even though we score nearly all the balls that we acquire, we don't start with many balls because our human player is so good. I don't really understand the point of scoring in autonomous.. there isn't really a huge advantage this year since there are no bonus points, and you can unload right at the beginning of the match anyway. I suppose the more you score and the faster you do it, the better, but auto this year is much less crucial it seems.

nahstobor 01-03-2009 22:18

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Here is some videos of our robot tracking and setting up in Autonomous mode (Provide by our "bot cam"). For all of these matches we were on the Red alliance tracking the blue trailer. Also we started in the position furthest from our own driver station.

(Quarterfinal Match 1, locked on team 136)

(Semifinal Match 1, locked on team 708)

(Semifinal Match 2, locked on team 708)

(Semifinal Match 3, locked on team 1218) (My favorite one)

EDIT: You only need to watch the first minute to catch the Automode, unless you want to watch the entire match.


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