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EricVanWyk 23-02-2009 22:21

Re: Is this normal?
 
This only confirms the issue if "unplug (at the adapter), wait 15 seconds, replug, wait 15 seconds" fixes it every time. If it doesn't, I don't know what is going on.

I'll have to check tomorrow, but I believe that LED arrangement means "locked processor" in the adapter.

I'm hesitant to say that a new adapter will fix all your problems. Are you positive it isn't configuration?

ChuckDickerson 23-02-2009 22:32

Re: Is this normal?
 
It pretty much always "hangs up" the first time you try to start it after it has been off for any significant length of time. Unplugging it, waiting 15 seconds, and replugging it in seem to work so far every time. After is is up an talking then things seem to be fine. It just doens't want to start talking. Once it is up and talking you can cycle the main breaker off and if you turn it back on reasonably quickly (seconds not minutes) it will connect without a problem. Basically if the robot has been off for more than a minute or so you have to unplug the power cable from the game adapter, wait ~15 seconds, then replug it up to get it to start talking again.

It is configured per the instructions as far as I know. How could we configure it improperly and it work after we unplug, wait 15 seconds, and then replug? I'll be happy to check, just don't know what to check for. Could you be more specific?

I'll head to Best Buy and get another one as soon as I can this week and hopefully that will solve the problem.

EricVanWyk 23-02-2009 22:35

Re: Is this normal?
 
It is the most logical explanation, I'm just always hesitant to tell a team to go spend money. Consider my last post as me grasping at straws in an attempt to save you a few bucks.

Hopefully someone else will step in with a brilliant fix. Otherwise, I think you know what has to be done.

ChuckDickerson 23-02-2009 22:51

Re: Is this normal?
 
Trust me Eric, I will be very happy if a bad game adapter is all that the problem is. It is two quick connections and a bit of Velcro to replace. It will literally take longer to resetup the network settings than to replace the hardware. I will happily spend $100 if we don't have to replace the $190 power distribution board and redo a bunch of wiring. Given the quirkiness of wireless networks we at first just thought it must be part of the bugs yet to be worked out in the new control system. By this time we could no longer imagine that all teams were going through this and that it was normal. If a new game adapter doesn't solve the problem I will be sure to post it here and we can continue to explore other possibilities. For now my fingers are crossed! :)

Joe Ross 23-02-2009 23:26

Re: Is this normal?
 
I believe I remember at least one person getting a bad bridge, and getting it replaced through Linksys.

If you don't have an early regional, it shouldn't be too late to go through Linksys tech support.

pitzoid 24-02-2009 00:18

Re: Is this normal?
 
Sounds to me like your bridge is bad....

A properly configured bridge on the FRC FMS system syncs in <15 seconds with the WPA (encryption) assigned by FMS (8 character) and is solid. I've tested hundreds of stop unplug start back ups here in the shop between 6 different bridges and the WGA is much faster than other parts of the system "syncing" (WGA-Access Point). We saw really fast syncing at Suffield too, worked better than I thought it would.

Also your Access Point may be bad. One thing you might want to try is assigning both encryption (WPA) and see if that helps the issue. I know it sounds like a weird thing, but sometimes they work better with encryption.

The thing too if you buy the WGA from Best Buy and you figure out it wasn't the issue, you can always return it.

Good luck

ChuckDickerson 24-02-2009 00:32

Re: Is this normal?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pitzoid (Post 827139)
Sounds to me like your bridge is bad....

A properly configured bridge on the FRC FMS system syncs in <15 seconds with the WPA (encryption) assigned by FMS (8 character) and is solid. I've tested hundreds of stop unplug start back ups here in the shop between 6 different bridges and the WGA is much faster than other parts of the system "syncing" (WGA-Access Point). We saw really fast syncing at Suffield too, worked better than I thought it would.

Also your Access Point may be bad. One thing you might want to try is assigning both encryption (WPA) and see if that helps the issue. I know it sounds like a weird thing, but sometimes they work better with encryption.

The thing too if you buy the WGA from Best Buy and you figure out it wasn't the issue, you can always return it.

Good luck

Geez, just when I thought we had it figured out you have to go and confuse me. ;) I guess tomorrow will bring more testing with encryption! We will check into it some more I guess.

ChuckDickerson 24-02-2009 23:36

Re: Is this normal?
 
I got another WGA600N wireless game adapter today at Best Buy. Fortunately it seems to have solved the problem. :) :) :) Hopefully it will stay that way!

Thanks for everyones help! Suddenly the new control system isn't so frustrating to use. We might actually start to like it now!


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