Re: What do you think about <G14> in eliminations?
 

As a Scorer at the boston regional, I found that the super cells had a very low impact on the game. I noticed about 5 or so cells actually scored during the entire regional and they only really affected the score once where it allowed a team to just beat the opposing alliance. (Cant remember exactly which match....it was a long weekend.) Most of the time the super cells were used as a hail mary with very low success rate. Teams who had there cells removed hardly ever used the super cells anyway, they just were able to score a ton of moon rocks by use of excellent dumper robots and basketball player payload specialists.

Re: What do you think about <G14> in eliminations?
 

i agree, it did seem like a fairly rare occurrence that it actually changed the outcome of the match, except the poor guy who accidentally ended up throwing it in his own alliance's trailer, after it bounced around quite a bit

Re: What do you think about <G14> in eliminations?
 

There are a number of problems with that mentality.
There's a difference between super cells being effective thusfar and their importance. Just because super cells haven't decided a ton of matches, doesn't mean they're not important. Anyone who watched 118 reach the finals in DC, 27 earn the third pick at Kettering, 217 reach the semis in Chicago (and almost beat the winning alliance), or teams of their ilk can tell you how important super cells can be. The reason that they haven't been making a huge impact is because teams are using them in the fashion you describe, as additional scoring, hail marys, and in general, an afterthought.
When the super cell becomes a focal point of an alliance's strategy it is very powerful. Heck, even look at the 45, 234, 620 alliance that beat the 1279, 118, 538 alliance in DC. They scored tons of moon rocks, but even they scored a super cell in 67% of their matches during the eliminations to help them clinch.
Beyond that, just because something hasn't been used (and is thus perceived as "unimportant") doesn't mean that rules that impact it should be ignored. In other words, even if a scoring object was determined to be useless, an unfair rule shouldn't be imposed on it.
I'm not saying that <G14> is unfair, but that the principle of the rule is what matters, not the actual impact.

Re: What do you think about <G14> in eliminations?
 

as the human player for team 1742 the OKC regional champs. We decided to just score and worry about losin a super cell later. cause we would rather lose a super cell next game then lose the match now cause we didn't want to shot the super cell.

Re: What do you think about <G14> in eliminations?
 

When this rule first came out, I was completely opposed to it being enforced in elimination rounds. Now, having competed in a regional, I've had a change of heart. The rule has it's place in this game and shouldn't be changed. it add's a completely new element of strategy into this game. We can complain all we want, but why not just use that energy to get used to the rule? For a game that seemed simple at the start of the season, it has proven to be a little bit more difficult and strategical, eliminating G14 would take away from the games intent. Deal with it please:)

Re: What do you think about <G14> in eliminations?
 

In Oregon an alliance tripled the score in the their last quarter final and their alliance everything was ready to go and the head referee had to be reminded about the rule... to their credit the situation was remedied...

Showing tremendous GP, team 488 (who was on the team that was effected) supported the request to apply the rule.

Much to my chagrin and embarassment.. our alliance (Alliance 1) had the luck to out score this team by a large margin in the Semi-final 2 against 488's Alliance going in to the FINALS... and we should have received a G14 penalty.

We totally forgot about this.. and didn't remind the referees that we should have had our SCells limited also in the first game of the final... (In our defense... our alliance didn't use the SC our strategy...so it didn't occur to me..)

I do want to apologize to team 488 for letting this happen. They are terrific team and we enjoyed competing with them...but this rule should have been applied to us in that match... and we should have said something.

I think our refereeing team did a terrific job and I am not trying to cast blame on anyone except us for not realizing that we should be penalized....

One other issue I have with G14 is how rescheduled games are supposed to be handled... We had several early matches that got rescheduled to the end of the day... I assume that G14 was supposed to be simply applied in the next match...so I guess we need clarification on how G14 should be applied.