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CraigHickman 10-03-2009 15:27

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Originally Posted by Bongle (Post 834092)
I could see Obama attending. A stadium half-full of high school students would not be so hard to lock down compared to a stadium full of political nuts (nomination) or a few million members of the public (inauguration). I completely agree that it seems right up his alley. It's a fairly innovative, merit-based approach to education that provably gets results.

I agree that a pre-recorded video (or live video) is far more likely though. Which is unfortunate, because I think the greatest benefit of Obama being at champs would be him getting to see FIRST in action (and thus perhaps supporting it as part of an education initiative), rather than the kids getting to see a speech by Obama.

A recorded video/webstream would be AWESOME.

But keep in mind, just to get into the inauguration, one had to queue up 4ish hours before hand to go through security screening. I don't want to deal with that at a FIRST competition.

Viper37 10-03-2009 16:16

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Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 834217)
I don't think you were the problem, I think most people, including me, were upset* by the person who added "try to" to your sentence and said "Fixed."

* upset is the best word I can think of.

It wasn't a poke at him personally, it was a poke at Uncle Sam in its entirety.

If something that minor offends you, I don't really know what to tell you.

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Originally Posted by Kyle Love (Post 834219)
While it's a nice idea, Obama has a lot bigger things to get done. He should be doing his job in Washington DC. It would be much more realistic to get a past president (kind of like the first George Bush) to come to the Championship instead.


This, is spot on. The current President has plenty on his plate already. While he did say he is emphasizing science and technology, the appropriate role for him is not to observe the process, but assist within the capacities of his duty.

Molten 10-03-2009 16:16

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Originally Posted by Kyle Love (Post 834219)
I think it would be awesome if Neil Armstrong would show up at the Boilermaker Regional in a couple of weeks.

I agree. This would be cool. Maybe, this is where the letters should go.

Molten 10-03-2009 16:18

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Originally Posted by Viper37 (Post 834273)
It wasn't a poke at him personally, it was a poke at Uncle Sam in its entirety.

If something that minor offends you, I don't really know what to tell you.

It's not that it offended them. Just that it was political. Politics are not to be discussed on CD. That is one of the basic rules of CD that we should all try to keep to.

Viper37 10-03-2009 16:22

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Originally Posted by Molten (Post 834277)
It's not that it offended them. Just that it was political. Politics are not to be discussed on CD. That is one of the basic rules of CD that we should all try to keep to.

I understand this. However political opinions WILL come into play when topics like this come up. As I stated earlier, the comment I made was not made at the current president, but more towards the State of the Union. Really, not even political at all, as it is an economic condition.

Take it how you will, but that's just my .2 cents.

Ian Curtis 10-03-2009 16:59

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Originally Posted by Kyle Love (Post 834219)
I think it would be awesome if Neil Armstrong would show up at the Boilermaker Regional in a couple of weeks. I'm sure the Purdue grad would like to come back. He hasn't been back to campus since last fall when they dedicated the new Neil Armstrong building.

I'm not so sure. Mr. Armstrong doesn't do public appearances, and hasn't for a long time. He's even turned down offers to appear in documentaries about our early spacefaring efforts. Buzz Aldrin on the other hand, seems to love being in the spotlight (although he's not a Purdue grad).

If you want an Apollo astronaut, I'd ask Gene Cernan. He's a Purdue grad, and seemed like a really likeable guy from his interviews in Discovery's When We Left Earth: The NASA Missions. He also is significant as he was the last man to walk on the moon.

Viper37 10-03-2009 17:06

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Originally Posted by iCurtis (Post 834298)

If you want an Apollo astronaut, I'd ask Gene Cernan. He's a Purdue grad, and seemed like a really likeable guy from his interviews in Discovery's When We Left Earth: The NASA Missions. He also is significant as he was the last man to walk on the moon.

+1 that is also the impression I got from Gene Cernan. His interviews were quite interesting.

That Discovery Series was very good.

Daniel_LaFleur 10-03-2009 17:17

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Originally Posted by Molten (Post 834277)
It's not that it offended them. Just that it was political. Politics are not to be discussed on CD. That is one of the basic rules of CD that we should all try to keep to.

From my understanding, politics, religion, and other hotbutton topics are not completely against the rules here ... but since they tend to create flamewars, they tend to get closed at the first signs of flames.

ZakuAce 10-03-2009 17:48

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Originally Posted by artdutra04 (Post 834030)

Executive Orders?

I too believe that fixing the economy is top priority. Maybe he could send a cabinet member, maybe VP Biden? But honestly, this country has more problems. I'd say more but I too don't want to get political. Flame wars suck!

Nawaid Ladak 10-03-2009 18:18

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I actually thought of this sometime last year after the election,

This idea would be perfect, President Obama want s new generation of teachers teaching our future engineers and scientists. WE ARE THAT FUTURE. It would be a perfect fit in a perfect manner. not to mention all the positive PR he would receive from a visit to students such as this

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Originally Posted by Bongle (Post 834092)
I could see Obama attending. A stadium half-full of high school students would not be so hard to lock down compared to a stadium full of political nuts (nomination) or a few million members of the public (inauguration). I completely agree that it seems right up his alley. It's a fairly innovative, merit-based approach to education that provably gets results.

I agree that a pre-recorded video (or live video) is far more likely though. Which is unfortunate, because I think the greatest benefit of Obama being at champs would be him getting to see FIRST in action (and thus perhaps supporting it as part of an education initiative), rather than the kids getting to see a speech by Obama.

This is entirely true. You need him there live for this to work, He needs to see the game being played in first person to see all the work that goes into these robots and al of what the students learn. ie: he could possibly walk around the pits escorted by the Secret Service. He would be able to talk to some of the students as to why they like FIRST, what they have learned in FIRST. and maybe teach Mr. Obama a few things.

President Obama wants to see our future students succeed, WE ARE THAT FUTURE.

P.S. To those of you who say that we aren't that big. please explain this http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/lo...ade-Class.html

Viper37 10-03-2009 18:27

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Originally Posted by Nawaid Ladak (Post 834328)
he could possibly walk around the pits escorted by the SS.

I know what you meant, but at first glance "Secret Service" is not at all what I saw. "SS" is not an appropriate abbreviation for Secret Service.

pacoliketaco 10-03-2009 18:39

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Originally Posted by Daniel_LaFleur (Post 834079)
Wow, so much Negativity here on ChiefDelphi.

1> President Obama thinks so highly of Science and Technology that he put it into his inaugural speech.
2> I believe FIRST fits into his vision of the future of Science and Technology.
3> His people are quite capable of deciding if the security risk is worth coming to Atlanta.

So lets just invite him, and let him make the decision.

THANK YOU. All i thought of was the invite, whether he would actually show up or not, it doesn't really matter. In sending him letters, we are showing him what FIRST is, which is the whole point. When i made this thread, i did not think of logistics, and i won't, as that was not my intent. I did not want to start an argument about this, i just wanted FIRST teams to try and make a difference.

dani190 10-03-2009 21:20

Re: Invite Obama to Atlanta, we already did
 
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Originally Posted by CraigHickman (Post 834247)
A recorded video/webstream would be AWESOME.

But keep in mind, just to get into the inauguration, one had to queue up 4ish hours before hand to go through security screening. I don't want to deal with that at a FIRST competition.

did you watch the inauguration? Did you notice how many people there were.

Lol
plus it was outside...

way bigger security risk

Molten 10-03-2009 21:35

Re: Invite Obama to Atlanta, we already did
 
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Originally Posted by dani190 (Post 834468)
did you watch the inauguration? Did you notice how many people there were.

Lol
plus it was outside...

way bigger security risk

True but they weren't all carrying tools in with them. Many of which could be disguised weapons and would have to be closely inspected.

geekofband007 10-03-2009 22:40

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obama in safety glasses...i'm sold...lets do it!
haha


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