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CraigHickman 09-03-2009 18:09

Introducing the BPD: Bullet Proof Drive
 
This season taught me something new: While thinking outside the box is good, reaching beyond one's own box of ability is a very poor choice. This season also taught me another good lesson: The ability to design a crab drive does not give one the ability to machine it to acceptable tolerances.

That being said, here goes: Introducing the Bullet Proof Drive!

Here are the concerns that go into this design:
1. Little to no CNC work needed. All you need to build this is a manual mill. Don't even need a DRO, if you're good enough!
2. Scalability. A team with advanced CNC ability can cut the weight down significantly, and up the features, while a team with only manual mills can make it function quite well.
3. Weight. 40 pounds without a battery for a bulletproof modular chassis.
4. Modularity. With either 4 bolts, or 8 1/4" rivets, one can remove and entire side of the chassis. Machine yourself a spare chassis side, and repairs can be done while the robot is on the field.
5. Cost of Materials. The chassis is designed to allow AndyMark components to be put in at almost any stage, from wheels to gearboxes to sprockets.
6. Durability. This is the fourth evolution of this chassis. All the weak points have been designed out, while still keeping weight and size down.
7. Balance. The Chassis itself is perfectly balanced, which allows for one to shift components around as needed.
8. Ease of maintenance. Tensioning a wheel is as simple as turning two nut drivers. Once you get the feel for the system, this can be done insanely rapidly should the need arrive.



This drive first reared its head in 2006, back when I was on 114. We had sliding pillow blocks inside chassis members, and that let us tension fairly easy. The next season we added in the bolt-pulled tensioning system, and smaller wheels. In 2008, we added the Unibody Extrusion to the module. This significantly cut down on weight, while keeping the number of parts to be machined fairly low.

If the game allows, I have a feeling 1595 may be returning to the BPD next season, unless Mecanums are called for. Questions and comments on the system are more than welcome, and I'm very willing to give out the CAD for the chassis to any who want it. Just email me and I'll add you to the list of people to send it out. You can email me at iron spork AT gmail DO com.

thefro526 09-03-2009 18:10

Re: Introducing the BPD: Bullet Proof Drive
 
Looks epic.

Can you give some specs on speeds and stuff?

CraigHickman 09-03-2009 18:12

Re: Introducing the BPD: Bullet Proof Drive
 
Speeds for the included gearbox (which requires a CNC) are 9ish fps. Outside of the chassis is 36x26.

dlavery 09-03-2009 19:30

Re: Introducing the BPD: Bullet Proof Drive
 
How can you interface legs to it?

-dave



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CraigHickman 09-03-2009 19:33

Re: Introducing the BPD: Bullet Proof Drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dlavery (Post 833780)
How can you interface legs to it?

-dave



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Oh god, here we go again... I suppose I could replace the wheels with Leg like feelers... Depends how lawyer-tastic the GDC wants to make their leg rules. :P

MrForbes 09-03-2009 19:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dlavery (Post 833780)
How can you interface legs to it?

Very carefully!

I'm wondering where the props connect

(yeah, it's NURC build time again)

dlavery 09-03-2009 19:55

Re: Introducing the BPD: Bullet Proof Drive
 
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Originally Posted by CraigHickman (Post 833783)
Oh god, here we go again... I suppose I could replace the wheels with Leg like feelers... Depends how lawyer-tastic the GDC wants to make their leg rules. :P

I am sure that the rules will have to be fairly tightly constrained to cover most of the preferred 5- and 7-leg options, but still flexible enough to permit the magnetic impellers.

,4lex S. 09-03-2009 19:58

Re: Introducing the BPD: Bullet Proof Drive
 
I think you just redefined the 6WD for me... Wow.

Perfect modularity and a tough looking frame system. I wasn't aware that merging the two ended well occasionally.

Working under the assumption that those are AM Supershifters, how are the encoder mounts affected by this design?

ATannahill 09-03-2009 20:01

Re: Introducing the BPD: Bullet Proof Drive
 
TOO EARLY DAVE!! Some teams haven't even played this years game at competition.

pitzoid 09-03-2009 20:08

Re: Introducing the BPD: Bullet Proof Drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigHickman (Post 833734)
Introducing the Bullet Proof Drive!

Looks like Carlo's, of BattleBots Biohazard fame, Battlekits

sdcantrell56 09-03-2009 20:11

Re: Introducing the BPD: Bullet Proof Drive
 
I love it Craig. Good job on the design. Too bad you're not using wood though

CraigHickman 09-03-2009 20:15

Re: Introducing the BPD: Bullet Proof Drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ,4lex S. (Post 833797)
I think you just redefined the 6WD for me... Wow.

Perfect modularity and a tough looking frame system. I wasn't aware that merging the two ended well occasionally.

Working under the assumption that those are AM Supershifters, how are the encoder mounts affected by this design?

Thanks! Those exact gearboxes aren't Supershifters. The Supershifter works for this, but needs a little bit of tweaking on the mounting plate (By tweaking I mean drilling two holes and countersinking two more). Also, encoders are mounted elsewhere in the drive. There's a handy-dandy mechanism that will measure left side and right side speed directly off the ground, rather than off the wheel speed. If one really wants to add encoders to the drive system as well, it WOULD open up some interesting traction control ideas... I'll have to look into this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdcantrell56 (Post 833809)
I love it Craig. Good job on the design. Too bad you're not using wood though

Who says we're not?

But seriously, our team is looking at going green as much as possible from the chassis up, and implementing as much bamboo and other woods as possible. The weight is unbeatable, same for the strength.

sdcantrell56 09-03-2009 20:21

Re: Introducing the BPD: Bullet Proof Drive
 
Good good good. We are officially hooked on wood. You should be able to build a killer wooden frame with a table saw and mill, especially if you want to get into biscuiting the joints and even laying it with glass. We used okoume this year and the weight savings is incredible. The density is only.018lbs/cubic in. The only problem with it is that its super expensive and difficult to find. I think for next year we will just go with 12mm baltic birch since we can get it 2 miles from our school and its 1/4 the price of okoume. We also used MAS epoxy to attach everything.

GarrettF2395 09-03-2009 23:34

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For some reason, I'm not seeing any pictures on this thread (am I supposed too?) :confused:
Could you email me a picture Craig?

MrForbes 09-03-2009 23:44

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the original is a way too big (for my browser settings) .png


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