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Elgin Clock 10-03-2009 12:47

How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
How many teams have done this?
Just trying to get an estimation of how common it is.

Payload Specialists seem to be scoring them more than Robots in most cases.

We scored a Super Cell with our robot in NYC at least once & tried another time but a trailer was too full.
Lessons learned for future competitions... ;)
For us, it was a lot easier for the Payload Specialist to hand off the Super Cell to our robot who made the score, than just shoot it halfway down the field into a moving trailer.

Have you seen any robots score the Super Cells at your events?

tehpenguin 10-03-2009 12:49

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
Thunder Chicken scored a couple of super cells at the Midwest regional during the quarter-finals and semi-finals.

IKE 10-03-2009 13:03

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
I saw 27 try several times at kettering, but I did not see their robot score a supercell (not that it didn't happen). I did see 2771's robot score a super cell with their robot in the QF at Kettering. It was literally the last second of the match, they bumped into their opponents trailer and the cell popped out.

We preferred using our human player. He was in the top 4 for accuracy at kettering and made several last second shots. Currently he is more accurate than our robot, but that should change at the next competition. 65 also had a human player that made a ton of clutch shots.

wo-bot 141 10-03-2009 13:06

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
1918 scored a couple in traverse city. but they stopped as soon as we pinned them to the wall. also Rush (27) gave one to the robot and another to the human player. I've seen Rush score it a couple of times with the robot. I believe that it depends where the traffic is at the end of the match will determine where you put the super cell in a robot or a easy shot.

Steve Kaneb 10-03-2009 13:17

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
20 Managed it during one match at BAE.

EricLeifermann 10-03-2009 13:23

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
Our HP is pretty clutch so we let him shoot the SC's. At Traverse city he only missed 3. 2 were in the same match because the other alliance saw he had them and they all ran to the other side of the field. He still almost made both, only missed by a few inches or so each time.

Lil' Lavery 10-03-2009 13:50

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
I know 20, 27, 217, 1918, 2199, and 2771 have. Likely a number of others as well.

BrendanB 10-03-2009 14:12

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
1519 and 58 each got one.

Chris is me 15-03-2009 17:29

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
I'd say a little over half of the Wisconsin Regional matches involved a Supercell.

It seems a lot of teams have incorproated some sort of belt reversal / empty cell conversion as a "cop out function" on their robots; something they add in case their manipulator fails or the strategy calls for something different. Robots designed with the empty cell in mind that are quick and mobile, able to convert most or all of them in under a minute, will score themselves a great niche on alliances, especially if the robot can do something with the Supercell once it's in play.

dragonrulr288 15-03-2009 17:32

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
We saw a few scored at Traverse City..

gorrilla 15-03-2009 17:41

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
when did this become legal???


I thought only PS" were able to score SC's


wow, if i had known this was legal.......we could have done alot more at Florida

NickE 15-03-2009 17:41

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
971's robot scored one that had been activated by the opposing alliance in the semi-finals at Silicon Valley.

Ice Berg 15-03-2009 17:48

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
Team 694's robot scored one at the last second at NYC.

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thefro526 15-03-2009 18:37

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gorrilla (Post 836284)
when did this become legal???


I thought only PS" were able to score SC's


wow, if i had known this was legal.......we could have done alot more at Florida

As far as I know it's always been legal. I've seen it happen since week one.

NoahTheBoa 15-03-2009 19:15

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
We scored one after the PS missed their shot.

Chris is me 15-03-2009 21:09

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gorrilla (Post 836284)
when did this become legal???


I thought only PS" were able to score SC's


wow, if i had known this was legal.......we could have done alot more at Florida

As with any ball, you have to throw it into play, but there's nothing stopping a robot from picking it up.

gorrilla 15-03-2009 21:10

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 836404)
As with any ball, you have to throw it into play, but there's nothing stopping a robot from picking it up.

man, thats a drag.....we could have scored a bunch of them:ahh: lol

cziggy343 15-03-2009 21:11

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
we a few... one we just couldn't quite get lined up in time, and the other fell about 3 inches short... so we tried

Mcote 15-03-2009 21:13

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
team 2194 Fondy Fire scored them like crazy almost every match in the semi finals and finals in Wisconsin regional.

Firstjewboy 21-03-2009 23:44

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
In Chesapeake we saw plenty scored by the HP's. Especially in the elimination tournament, ACtually, the final was decided by a last second super cell score by the corner HP on 1185 (i think that was their number),

I saw a team attempt to put a SC in their robot one time but by the time they had gotten the robot to the corner and gotten the super cell in it, they were too far away and our of position to use it (The faced into the corner and the HP rolled it out under the station, and then a robot from the other alliance pinned it in that position. The bot then attempted to push the SC back into the HP's hands so they could shoot it into the pinning bot, but time ran out)

I think that it's probably better to just let the HP take the shots with the SC rather than wasting all that time trying to get the SC into the bot.

Akash Rastogi 21-03-2009 23:46

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
1279 was consistent at Philly as well.

rogerlsmith 22-03-2009 00:17

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
904's robot scored a super cell in Traverse City, week 1.

video.

Koko Ed 22-03-2009 01:46

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
Team 1507 did it a few times af FLR. They drop it in their robot soon as the clock hits 20 and they quickly track down a nearby opposing robot and drop it right in. They got pretty good at it.

Katie_UPS 22-03-2009 11:44

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
As said, 217 would feed the supercell to their robot, and I wouldn't be surprised if simbotics starts taking on that stretegy too.

Although, when we were allianed with 111 and 1625, Raul from 111 (congrats on woodie flowers, by the way) wasn't focused on super cells at all. So I think some of the high score-ers aren't worried about super cells, or atleast untill Atlanta.

XaulZan11 22-03-2009 12:10

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Katie_UPS (Post 839105)
Raul from 111 (congrats on woodie flowers, by the way) wasn't focused on super cells at all. So I think some of the high score-ers aren't worried about super cells, or atleast untill Atlanta.

During BMR qualifications, 111 changed thier strategy from midwest a bit. They focused much more on empty cells and super cells. It looked like they picked up an empty cell in auto mode and then they scored a couple of super cells with their robot. It was pretty fun to watch them score a super cell in the final seconds.

1741's robot scored two super cells in one match.

inyourname3 22-03-2009 13:22

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
Our team fixed our aimable shooter to shoot straight down for the boilermaker regional, then we were able to get 2 empty cells per match, then use our robot to pick up the supercell, one match we scored both, couple we scored one, and the rest we ran out of time or were blocked. We ended up #3 seed : )

BenX02 22-03-2009 17:27

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
I saw quite a few teams do it at Peachtree. I know that we picked them up a lot by accident. By the time we realized usually it was to late, so I don't think we actually scored any of them.

Ben Martin 22-03-2009 17:35

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
At BMR, both 111 and 1741 scored super cells either from missed payload specialist shots that hit the floor or from super cells tossed directly into the robot. Usually, this happened when multiple robots were in a cluster near a driver's station.

MattLi 22-03-2009 18:28

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
At Kettering I noticed that 27 became very successful at scoring supercells. It wasn't until Lansing however that they adopted the super cell as a strategy. When we played with them, I noticed that their entire goal was to get as many empty cells into the hands of the human players as possible. At the 20 second mark they would take one or two super cells and feed them to their robot through the airlocks. Then they would attempt with their robot to score the super cells and all the while the PCs would have super cells at hand ready to throw.

Zach O 22-03-2009 19:00

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
Team 27 has their robot score many of their super cells. It seems to be more effective then having a human throw it. Some dumpers have also been loaded up with them then they dump them.

wcamp1742 22-03-2009 23:00

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
We scored one down in dallas during a practice match on thursday but never managed to get the execution down for any matches that count. It's definately a feasible strategy though.

tonsoffun2325 22-03-2009 23:11

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
1742 did it during a practice round at dallas. i threw it in the hopper and we shot it over a robot and into the trailer. it was a moving bot not a dead one. just wanted to see if we cound.

Enigma's puzzle 23-03-2009 09:54

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
At lansing, i saw RUSH (27) score on a few occasions, i also saw 1918 (NC Gears) score a missed human player shot. I think i remember seeing 67 (HOT) score one too, im not sure on the last one though.

EOC 23-03-2009 11:46

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
1208 scored one at the St. Louis Regional.

Dancin103 23-03-2009 12:15

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
At the start of this competition season, I was eager to see a robot score a supercell, but I never had the chance too. Although, this last week at Philly I saw 809, don't quote me on the team, almost score a super cell with their robot. There were three seconds left, and if you gave them at least a half a second more, they would have deffinately scored it.

Lucretius 23-03-2009 12:29

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
I am told that my team, 395, scored two Super Cells at once in Q10 at Philly; unfortunately this was the one match I missed as I was helping prepare our Chairman's presentation...

Joe Schornak 23-03-2009 12:37

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
In our first quarterfinal match, team 2839's human player threw a super cell that bounced off the edge of an opponent trailer before landing right in their pneumatic launcher, which they triggered to fire the cell into a trailer. It was very cool.

roboraven15 23-03-2009 13:50

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
in the last 5 seconds we picked up a missed supercell off floor, flew across floor to get up against team 1's trailer. match ended with the ball so barely still in roller coming out that we pushed robot and ball fell out..... so dam close! but so epic lol

gwytheyrn 23-03-2009 14:12

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
I know 234 scored one at BMR with their robot in the last couple seconds of a qualification match, but I'd say their human player scored many, many, many,...,many more supercells, including a match where 2 were scored in about 5 seconds.

Killraine 23-03-2009 14:39

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gorrilla (Post 836284)
when did this become legal???


I thought only PS" were able to score SC's


wow, if i had known this was legal.......we could have done alot more at Florida

This has always been legal. Its always good to read the rules yourself rather than listen to "word of mouth" rules.

SteveGPage 23-03-2009 14:41

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
During one of our qualification matches (Q 46) at the Chesapeake Region, we (Team 836) picked up a SC that a HP had tossed, moved to the end of the field and scored it as time ran out. It was the winning shot, too!

Thanks to 449 and 1748 for a great alliance in the Quarterfinals! Hope to see you all next year!

Best regards,

Steve

sayso_411 23-03-2009 16:26

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
Scoring the supercell was a major strategy at NASA/VCU Regional
Sparky scored at least 5-6 supercells (2-3 with the robot)
I remember one match were we scored two consecutive ones with the robot :D

Dillon Compton 23-03-2009 16:43

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
1391's robot, the Metal Moose, put at least one super cell into opponent trailers during the Philadelphia regional.

Shadow503 23-03-2009 16:44

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sayso_411 (Post 839986)
Scoring the supercell was a major strategy at NASA/VCU Regional
Sparky scored at least 5-6 supercells (2-3 with the robot)
I remember one match were we scored two consecutive ones with the robot :D

TWO consecutive super cells? :ahh:
I find that hard to believe, but hats off for such a feat!

Ken Streeter 24-03-2009 09:41

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrendanB (Post 834213)
1519 and 58 each got one.

Video of 1519's supercell shot can be seen on the video archive of Granite State Regional match #51 at http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv...nh/nh_qm51.mp4 The supercell is scored with 3 seconds left in the match. Unfortunately, the video doesn't show the supercell going into the trailer (only the central pole of the trailer is in view of the camera), but it did!

GaryVoshol 28-03-2009 18:53

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
In Troy, HOT 67 shot a supercell from their robot, missed, picked up the rebound, shot again and made it.

Paul Copioli 28-03-2009 21:20

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
We will have video of that shortly. It was one of the most amazing plays I have personally witnessed this season.

martin417 28-03-2009 21:27

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
2415 scored a super cell as the buzzer sounded in the finals match at Palmetto. It was the difference in the match.

Gerdee 29-03-2009 00:00

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
2075 (enigma) has a pretty accurate human player and today at west michigan i dont recall how many he made but all i know is he is accurate and so is our human player we made one in at the same time as another team

Brad Voracek 29-03-2009 00:16

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
In our last qualifying match, we had 207 pinned in the corner. We threw the super cell into our robot, with our dump rolling, and the super cell went straight into their trailer. It was a pretty cool play, but almost impossible to set up.

Magnechu 29-03-2009 10:14

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
We were able to score a Super Cell with our robot once or twice during prelims and never tried in eliminations.

Champ 29-03-2009 10:33

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
I've seen 188 score super cells 2 to 3 times at gtr.

610 has scored one also.

KevinReid 29-03-2009 12:22

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
Team 188 had it down to making it look easy at GTR. Close to doing 2 in a match.

J-Brock 29-03-2009 12:26

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
I have seen a few use their robot to score a super cell.

It seems to be a better Idea to just throw the super cell.

davidalln 29-03-2009 13:18

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martin417 (Post 842000)
2415 scored a super cell as the buzzer sounded in the finals match at Palmetto. It was the difference in the match.

Our secondary driver claimed he didn't know a super cell was in there, and was just shooting all the balls out at the end hoping to get some last second points :D

raceteen48 29-03-2009 13:47

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
in one of our Elimination matches, 175 Buzz scored a supercell as the buzzer sounded, thank god they were on our alliance!

Adam Freeman 29-03-2009 14:12

Re: How many robots have scored Super Cells?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Copioli (Post 841997)
We will have video of that shortly. It was one of the most amazing plays I have personally witnessed this season.

At Cass Tech, our human player scored one super cell, then 217 scored another one with their robot in the closing seconds to seal the deal in the 2nd Finals Match. Result: District Championship!

At Troy, 217 scored two supercells at one time to seal the deal in the 2nd Finals Match.
Result: District Championship!

So watchout for 217 in the closing seconds of a match, they just might be carrying a supercell and they are deadly.


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