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gwytheyrn 25-03-2009 22:59

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Originally Posted by GDC
...may not be used by team members during a Match per Rule...

Really, regardless of what the FTC rules are (what did t22 read as anyways. I can't seem to find it), you should ask the event staff or at least someone who's helping to run things if it's "legal." Okay, so it does pretty much say that you shouldn't in team update 12-13, but it's up to the event staff as to how the ruling will be interpreted. I say if the crew says okay, go for it though :]

Anne Shade 26-03-2009 08:33

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The question has been posted to the Q&A but no answer yet.

Stealth 28-03-2009 02:19

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Used at the Sacramento Regional. No one asked and it worked perfectly!

The analyzer app could use some more stat viewing features, and if it could pull some stuff from the inter net that would be even better.

Great job and I highly recommend this to anyone looking for a scouting system.

pitzoid 28-03-2009 13:13

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Originally Posted by TheOtherGuy (Post 839550)
Let's just say it won them the Judge's Award on Friday afternoon ;)

Well, I'll just say I'm one of the judges that gave 842 the award and I'm the guy that designed the FRC field radio system.

Bluetooth is not an issue to field systems, its a very low power system (<30ft range) and is frequency compliant in working with WIFI systems. So the 842 system is IMHO fine to use at competitions. The way I read the GDC comments are that they are more concerned about phones that have wifi, I have a newer IPhone and it has wifi, leave the wifi off in phones at competitions. The new robot radio system is being characterized for the first time in the field environments this year. There was no other way to test other than just throw it out there. We were trying to reduce the varibles as much as possible. The system is working beyond expectations, there are some issues still with teams that don't understand RF principals, but those will be worked out eventually though shared information outlets such as CD.

And I've mentioned this before, the field uses BOTH 2.4 and 5 GHz radios. 5 GHz is dedicated to the robots.

THX :D

PICgnosis 28-03-2009 15:34

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The analyzer app could use some more stat viewing features, and if it could pull some stuff from the inter net that would be even better.
What did you have in mind? We might be able to throw it in before the Championship.

Also, you can copy data from any of the datatables. Just click and drag over it with your mouse and copy it using ctrl-c then paste it into a text file and open it in Excel.

Stealth 28-03-2009 21:38

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Originally Posted by PICgnosis (Post 841908)
What did you have in mind? We might be able to throw it in before the Championship.

Also, you can copy data from any of the datatables. Just click and drag over it with your mouse and copy it using ctrl-c then paste it into a text file and open it in Excel.

Integration with the OPR Ranking would be nice. Also stuff like the shooter percentage, and average trailer fill level would be nice. Basically all of the stats viewable per match but in the rankings window and averages.

Too bad other teams didn't use this, Sac Regional definitely could improve on their scouting. I believe we were one of the only teams downloading the OPR data at the end of the qualifying and we were the only one using this program. However what information we gathered we tried to share with other teams and they all said this system was a really good idea.

Anders Horn 29-03-2009 19:00

Re: Wiimote Digital Scouting System
 
Wiimotes work great until they run out of batteries. They also have the benefit that you get timing data in addition to plain numerical.

Joe Ross 30-03-2009 16:20

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The following Q/A Answer confirms that bluetooth is legal within the stands: http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=12484

MrForbes 30-03-2009 16:22

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Thanks for the link Joe, that's a sensible answer from the GDC :)

Anne Shade 02-04-2009 08:18

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Question asked and answered on Q&A:

Quote:

Local-proximity Bluetooth communications used within the stands (i.e. not between the stands and the arena) is permitted.

falconmaster 02-04-2009 17:49

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Who is planning on using the wiimote scouting system at the Championships?

Anne Shade 03-04-2009 08:39

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Team 2377 is planning to use the system at Championship. It worked great during the Chesapeake regional!

PICgnosis 04-04-2009 20:33

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Hi, everyone.

Rev 1.0.0.2 of the Scout DB Analyzer is now available at www.nventivity.com/scout2.htm. The Rankings screen now includes up/down and column-order sortable averages for all the raw data by team.

NOTE: You do NOT need to update the Wiimote Scout program since the structure of the database hasn't changed. That is, we're still on rev 1.0.0.1 of WiimoteScout.zip. Next year, we'll add an About window to both programs where we will display rev information.

Cow Bell Solo 04-04-2009 21:07

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thanks for posting this and making it available online to other teams. We used your system at the Minnesota North Star Regional and it worked great, plus we had kids fighting over on who wanted to do scouting this year, all because they found it fun and interesting to do. Once again thanks.

falconmaster 04-04-2009 22:32

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We call this interest in the wiimote scout as
Reverse Game Play, normally you hit a button and something happens, now something happens and then you hit a button!


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