2009 High Scores
 

WEEK 1
Midwest:
Qualification 29: 151

WEEK 2
Finger Lakes:
Final Match 2: 131

WEEK 3
MI - Cass Tech:
Qualification 42: 139

Any Predictions for Future High Scores?

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I'm betting the 151 score won't be broken until Champs, if it is. I'm still amazed that it happened at a Week 1 Regional. Midwest would be the place for it though... that was some sick competition.

ps: 151 was with a 10 point penalty

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1) The standing 151 from Midwest goes untouched this week.

2) Bold(?) Prediction: 151 is surpassed in Week 5 at GTR. 1114 or 1503 is involved in the match, and at least two super cells are scored by the high-scoring alliance.

3) All high scores this year will be scrutinized with no concrete resolution on their validity. Videos (if available) will be reviewed, but the EXACT score will never be 100% confirmed by the CD community or anyone else for that matter. All high scores from this year will be "debatable," with a certain amount of skepticism about whether the alliance "actually got that score."

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I am curious as to why you think this. As far as I know, after each match, the scoring volunteers count the number of balls in each trailer to confirm or change the number they had in the system.

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True. Every scorer is assigned to a trailer. After each match, each scorer unloads the trailer that he/she scored, counting all the way. They then confirm/update their scores.

At least, that's how L.A. worked.

The only reason I can see for a score to be debatable would be penalties, and those are usually pretty accurate

Or are you thinking of the FMS/control system?

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I'm thinking Michigan State Competition will surpass the 151 point match, that schould be a kick butt competition

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It's a possibility. I'm not quite sure what to expect out of the Michigan State Competition...all I know is that it's going to be pretty intense!

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one score at traverse city I think was 2: 137

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I'm not so sure. If you look at many (not all) of the high scores they not only involved great teams scoring the points, but opponents who were barely functional. Still trailers, lacking autonomous, and other similar featuers help to increase scores dramatically.
There will be many fewer "dead weight" bots at the Michigan State Championship, since each and every team has to earn their way there.

TOTAL HIGH SCORES:

Week 1:
DC, QF1-1: 226
Red Alliance 126- Blue Alliance 100

Week 2:
ROC, QF3-1: 175
Red Alliance 83 - Blue Alliance 92

Week 3:
SJ, SF1-2: 177
Red Alliance 108 - Blue Alliance 69

Sadly, I don't think we'll see more than 2 or 3 other matches where both alliances break 100 all season.

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Highest Score @ Traverse City was 108 in Qualification 48

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This is exactly how it'll work. Granted, nobody's perfect, so you might see a match here and there where it'll be +/- a ball, but for the most part we should now see accurate scores.

However, the live score will most likely NEVER be accurate after the first 30 seconds or so. Do not rely on the live score on the screen. Score your hardest, remind your outpost HPs to watch their fingers... and hope for the best.

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I think we will see less of the 130 and up scores. As the year goes on, I think defense will start playing a larger roll. Also, at states and nationals, there probably won't be any open trailers as there have been early on. As the robots get better, it becomes harder to score.

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I agree with this sentiment. AS this competition goes on I think the scores will actually go down, unlike usual. This has an interesting implication if it proves to be true. As scores go down it becomes easier to get a G14, and so alliances that rely on super cells might have a harder time over all.

Can't say anything for certain, but it's an interesting thought.

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I totally agree that the scores will become lower. It doesn't surprise me that the 151 score was in week one, because that is when no one is really playing defense. All the robots that are bad realize that, and their goal in each match is to shutdown the good robots.

I also think that the difference between the two alliances will decrease dramatically in Atlanta.

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Yes, it appears as though defense and good driving are much more effective in preventing high scoring than in previous years. This seems primarily due to the fact that the goal is actively moved by the robots.
This is a stark contrast with Overdrive, in which almost no defense was permitted.
I believe that maneuverability of a robot is crucial this year, and at events like the MI states and Champs, robots will be much more maneuverable and it will take a lot more driving skill to effectively pin and score on a trialer.

On that note, it is very likely that the scores will continue to decrease as the season progresses, so 151 will probably be the year's high score.

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When you think about the fact that each trailer only (reliably) holds 20-25 balls, it makes sense that we only see a high score of 151. Actually, my prediction is that we'll never see a score above 172 under the current scoring setup ... not even at IRI.

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I agree that scores will mostlikely go down because of the reasons already stated.

172 points is a lot. The only reason we had that high score is because the 1) we were with the Beast 2) I think one bot didn't show up and 3) one bot wasn't functioning. Its nice to say we hold the highest score even if the odds were in our favor.

And just because I'm bored of computer concepts...if i did my math correctly by having 24 moon rocks in each oppenents trailer and every super cell was scored you could get 204 points...if my math is correct :)

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[edit nevermind I can't do math either, so I guess your right]

24*3*2 + 4*15 = 204 pts

So you guys are only 74% there. You guys have a few weeks till the championship so get to work on achieving the last 26%! :P



... now back to work

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180 seems like the highest of the highest. 60 points for 4 super cells, plus 120 points for 20 moon rocks scored in each of the three trailers.

151 is a very incredible score and while I don't doubt that teams could reach 160 or 170, I find it unlikely that teams can break far past the 151 mark - probably ending in the range of 151-156

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the high score at peachtree was 108 with teams 343, 1771, and 57. unfortunatly, this could have been higher because we did not play a smooth match =P

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It'd be a neat thing to do at offseason (especially IRI) to put the top three seeds on the field against 3 robotless trailers. Haphazardly dump the opposing "alliance"'s balls on the floor, and set up the top 3 seeds as per usually. Then watch 2 minutes and 15 seconds of chaos. :ahh:

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IRI human player competition idea: 6 trailers are randomly parked on the field. The human goes to a randomly-assigned station and gets every ball from the field. The winner is the one who scores the most in one match.

Robot version: Without a trailer or defense, score as much as you like for 2 minutes.

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All 3 robots on the opposing alliance were there, and driving, after reviewing video of that match.

2 of them didnt have an auto mode however

Plus that 151 was still actually a 161 in total points, 10 point human player penalty

According to our scouts(all 12 of them); we(1625) put in 37 balls(woot), 71 put in 21 balls, and 2741 gets props for a supercell, and human players did the rest.

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Teams 40, 2079, and 2199 just set a high score for week 4 with a score of 142 at the Chesapeake Regional.

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I think that a defense will play a big factor in the later regionals. One thing to keep in mind is that during qualifications matches (when a strong alliance might have an easier time running the score up), teams are interested in increasing their ranking score and will score on their own alliance to improve their seeding position. Oddly this ends up hurting many of the other ranking and scouting statistics. The teams that thoroughly understand the strategy required for this game will not try to run up the score during qualifications.

Our strategy is to leave a 30-40 point lead (when we are lucky enough to get it) to prevent a last minute loss due to super cells. After that we will score on our own alliance.

During eliminations you want the margin to be double the opposing alliances score minus 1 to prevent empty cell penalty.

Re: 2009 High Scores
 

WEEK 1
Midwest:
Qualification 29: 151

WEEK 2
Finger Lakes:
Final Match 2: 131

WEEK 3
MI - Cass Tech:
Qualification 42: 139

WEEK 4
Chesapeake:
Qualification 57: 142

CUMULATIVE HIGH SCORES

WEEK 1:
DC, QF1-1: 226
Red Alliance 126- Blue Alliance 100

WEEK 2:
ROC, QF3-1: 175
Red Alliance 83 - Blue Alliance 92

WEEK 3:
SJ, SF1-2: 177
Red Alliance 108 - Blue Alliance 69

WEEK 4
MD, Q57: 210
Red Alliance 68 - Blue Alliance 142
MD, QF3-2: 210
Red Alliance: 130 - Blue Alliance 80

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Qualification match # 57 at Chesapeake also totaled 210 in week 4. Red 68 - Blue 142

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MD Q57 == Chesapeake Q57.

It's just a lot easier to abbreviate Maryland than Chesapeake.

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team #'s 188, 1241 and 2076 scored 141 points in qualification #61 at GTR!

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High score of 131 by 399, 1332, 2996 in the quarter finals at Colorado

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From my handwritten notes, not the official results:

Top total score in Seattle, in Match Semifinal 1-3, 1280, 1294, 2880 and 948, 1318, 2865: 176 (this semifinal went to four matches after a 64-64 tie in S1-1 -- really good competition)

Single highest score, Final 1, 488, 1425, 1569: 105 points.

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Semi finals @ the palmetto regional

team 1771, 21, and 2415 scored 114 to 64...no G14:yikes: :D

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109 was the high score at SBPLI by 102, 287, and 1606

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HIGH SCORES

WEEK 1
Midwest:
Qualification 29: 151

WEEK 2
Finger Lakes:
Final Match 2: 131

WEEK 3
MI - Cass Tech:
Qualification 42: 139

WEEK 4
Chesapeake:
Qualification 57: 142

WEEK 5
Greater Toronto:
Qualification 61: 141 [Missed 1 Supercell at the 7sec mark or else 156]


CUMULATIVE HIGH SCORES

WEEK 1:
DC, QF1-1: 226
Red Alliance 126- Blue Alliance 100

WEEK 2:
ROC, QF3-1: 175
Red Alliance 83 - Blue Alliance 92

WEEK 3:
SJ, SF1-2: 177
Red Alliance 108 - Blue Alliance 69

WEEK 4
MD, Q57: 210
Red Alliance 68 - Blue Alliance 142
MD, QF3-2: 210
Red Alliance: 130 - Blue Alliance 80

WEEK 5
CT, QF2-1: 197
Red Alliance: 118 - Blue Alliance 79

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HIGH SCORES

WEEK 1
Midwest:
Qualification 29: 151

WEEK 2
Finger Lakes:
Final Match 2: 131

WEEK 3
MI - Cass Tech:
Qualification 42: 139

WEEK 4
Chesapeake:
Qualification 57: 142

WEEK 5
Greater Toronto:
Qualification 61: 141 [Missed 1 Supercell at the 7sec mark or else 156]

WEEK 6
Michigan State Championship:
Qualification 37: 133

CUMULATIVE HIGH SCORES

WEEK 1:
DC, QF1-1: 226
Red Alliance 126- Blue Alliance 100

WEEK 2:
ROC, QF3-1: 175
Red Alliance 83 - Blue Alliance 92

WEEK 3:
SJ, SF1-2: 177
Red Alliance 108 - Blue Alliance 69

WEEK 4
MD, Q57: 210
Red Alliance 68 - Blue Alliance 142
MD, QF3-2: 210
Red Alliance: 130 - Blue Alliance 80

WEEK 5
CT, QF2-1: 197
Red Alliance: 118 - Blue Alliance 79

WEEK 6
GL, Q37: 219
Red Alliance: 86 - Blue Alliance 133

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It was 945 - Team Banana from Orlando, FL not the locals 948, but thanks for putting that up. I'm sure we could of topped 176 if are alliance member 1318 (IRS - Oregon Regional Winners) didn't break down it both our losses but nonetheless it was intense competition that had my heart racing the whole time.

The highest combined score at the FL Regional was 175 (Quarters 2 Match 2 238, 1345, 501 vs. 1649, 233, 179) and the highest single score was 120 (by 79 - Krunch, 744 - Shark, 2023 - PiraTech ).

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Championship - Galileo Division - Match 42

2348 1450 1646 45 67 111 69 128
Red:2348,1450,1646
Blue: 45,67,111

Red Score: 69
Blue Score: 128

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That wasn't even the high score of the day.

Curie match 33.

Red:1622 2834 217
Blue: 904 2443 75

Blue Score: 44
Red Score: 129

There was also another 128, Match 18 on Archimedes

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On Newton: Match 69

Red: 138 1657 2866
Blue: 1732 126 85

Blue wins, 40 to 142. Geez...

Edit: or is it 40 to 89? @FRCFMS and the Match Results are conflicting

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HIGH SCORES

WEEK 1
Midwest:
Qualification 29: 151

WEEK 2
Finger Lakes:
Final Match 2: 131

WEEK 3
MI - Cass Tech:
Qualification 42: 139

WEEK 4
Chesapeake:
Qualification 57: 142

WEEK 5
Greater Toronto:
Qualification 61: 141 [Missed 1 Supercell at the 7sec mark or else 156]

WEEK 6
Michigan State Championship:
Qualification 37: 133

CHAMPIONSHIPS
Archimedes
Qualification 86: 133

Curie
Qualification 54: 135

Galileo
Qualification 48: 128

Newton
Qualification 69: 142

CUMULATIVE HIGH SCORES

WEEK 1:
DC, QF1-1: 226
Red Alliance 126- Blue Alliance 100

WEEK 2:
ROC, QF3-1: 175
Red Alliance 83 - Blue Alliance 92

WEEK 3:
SJ, SF1-2: 177
Red Alliance 108 - Blue Alliance 69

WEEK 4
MD, Q57: 210
Red Alliance 68 - Blue Alliance 142
MD, QF3-2: 210
Red Alliance: 130 - Blue Alliance 80

WEEK 5
CT, QF2-1: 197
Red Alliance: 118 - Blue Alliance 79

WEEK 6
GL, Q37: 219
Red Alliance: 86 - Blue Alliance 133

CHAMPIONSHIPS
Archimedes
Q67: 223
Red Alliance 129 - Blue Alliance 94

Curie
SF1-1: 218
Red Alliance 119 - Blue Alliance 99

Galileo
SF1-1: 223
Red Alliance 126 - Blue Alliance 97

Newton
SF1-2: 225
Red Alliance 133 - Blue Alliance 92

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Out of all scores at Nationals, the High Score was 136 held by an alliance my team was on in Curie

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It was 142-40. We were pretty pumped. :)